Going for the old "make every third episode worthwhile" approach, I guess?
Carrie Coon is awesome. (Also, apparently she is married to Tracy Letts. Neat!)
― Simon H., Wednesday, 6 August 2014 01:19 (nine years ago) link
yeah Nora is great
― SEEMS TO ME (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 6 August 2014 03:06 (nine years ago) link
About 20 minutes in I thought "I don't want the other characters, let's just make this show about Nora please."
― ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Wednesday, 6 August 2014 03:23 (nine years ago) link
otm
― SEEMS TO ME (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 6 August 2014 03:53 (nine years ago) link
Forgot to obtain this week, thanks for reminding me. Although I don't know why I forgot because I love the show so far.
― and she's crying in a stairwell in Devon (aldo), Wednesday, 6 August 2014 09:55 (nine years ago) link
getting so good! last night's was pretty creepy feeling and awesome.
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 11 August 2014 14:16 (nine years ago) link
I said to Mr Veg last night, if they succeed at nothing else, they seem to have pretty much nailed the sad banality of a cult
― SEEMS TO ME (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 11 August 2014 17:14 (nine years ago) link
Yes I am one of those people who looked for the contents of May 72 NatGeo
― Brakhage, Monday, 11 August 2014 18:42 (nine years ago) link
Mr Veg googled May 1972 and the best he could come up with on quick notice was that it is the day that Dwayne the Rock Johnson was born, lol
― SEEMS TO ME (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 11 August 2014 18:52 (nine years ago) link
Here ya go
― Brakhage, Monday, 11 August 2014 18:58 (nine years ago) link
is no one really watching this show ?
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 15 August 2014 17:48 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, I am and loving it. I think I haven't been commenting because I know I'm out of sync with everyone else.
I really, really like it. I still think there's more to Kevin's hallucinations than is being let on even after all the people saw tobacco chewing man in the town meeting a couple of weeks ago. I'm definitely intrigued about the voices in his dad's head and how spot on they seem to be about a lot of things. I'm kind of hoping it isn't actually related to the departed to be honest but if it is then I would posit we're actually closer to it being a conspiracy drama and the people going missing is a Philadelphia Experiment type thing.
Although I love Paterson Joseph I'm not completely digging the Holy Wayne plot, much less how Kevin's son got completely seduced by them since he seems to spend all his screen time questioning what they do.
The GRs are a great concept and I think they're going to become more important as the series continues, but to a large degree it feels like Christopher Ecclestone was only really in the show to give the GRs a more developed arc.
Kevin definitely shagged his daughter's friend, right?
― and she's crying in a stairwell in Devon (aldo), Friday, 15 August 2014 18:32 (nine years ago) link
oh god I hope not
I feel like they're leaning heavily on that as a thing that MIGHT happen, or that she wants to happen
― SEEMS TO ME (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 15 August 2014 18:37 (nine years ago) link
also is there anything in the world more lol/terrifying than bored teenagers
xp
really enjoyed how Wayne was positioned as a total con man ... but the twist here is he actually is effective at what he does. was not expecting that
yeah that whole 'you don't remember do you' thing was really weird. not even a sinister Memento vibe, just complete elision. no way would the girl go for him though, it would have destroyed her relationship with the daughter
― Brakhage, Friday, 15 August 2014 18:40 (nine years ago) link
seems like so far the worst thing anyone has to say about the show is that Lindeloff is involved
Possibly because a lot of or at least some people are in the same position as I am: I don't want to watch because Lindelof has a habit of drawing you into promising, intriguing movies and shows and stories that end so badly, so slapdash, cynically and stupid, you regret ever watching.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 15 August 2014 18:43 (nine years ago) link
it's true he is the lucy-with-the-football of popular entertainment
― Brakhage, Friday, 15 August 2014 18:47 (nine years ago) link
no way would the girl go for him though, it would have destroyed her relationship with the daughter
this is the same chick who shagged the guy her best friend had a crush on
― Now you're messing with a (President Keyes), Friday, 15 August 2014 18:55 (nine years ago) link
daughter's friend has a real mena suvari in american beauty vibe )which may have been mentioned upthread)
i'm interested in how kevin's ex wife met the leader of the gr. There was a comment when they were in the diner that made me think possibly one had been a patient of the other or sth
― sktsh, Friday, 15 August 2014 19:10 (nine years ago) link
there needs to be more naked Justin Theroux in this show
― SEEMS TO ME (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 15 August 2014 19:43 (nine years ago) link
whooooooops you are totally right keyes, forgot that
― Brakhage, Friday, 15 August 2014 21:05 (nine years ago) link
fucked up
― akm, Monday, 25 August 2014 05:16 (nine years ago) link
Episode 8 took a huge running jump into awesome. Best show on tv in years, I'm calling it.
― and she's crying in a stairwell in Devon (aldo), Monday, 25 August 2014 12:36 (nine years ago) link
I'll be curious to see how the second season goes. It seems like they've already used about 75% of the events in the book.
― Now you're messing with a (President Keyes), Monday, 25 August 2014 13:13 (nine years ago) link
All-flashback episode was surprisingly great. You could see where lots of it was going from quite early on - Kevin hooking up with the woman from the crash, for example - but it was still really well executed and shocking when the disappearances happened. Recognising little bits of imagery, like Nora taking the second last sheet of kitchen towel (we saw this in the episode when Holy Wayne took her grief) meant the dread built just waiting for the denouement, and from the second "let's build a circuit" was spoken you knew it would climax with the light going out for an unseen reason. Strangest part was Gladys; we're still not clear on what she lost that made her join the GR. her attachment to the dogs makes it look like it's them, but that's surely misdirection.
Was Kevin's vision with the stag supposed to invoke Saint Hubertus, maybe? (The image of Hubertus' vision is shown on the Jagermeister label.) Hubertus is the saint invoked in curing rabies, which is presumably behind Dean's (and by extension Kevin's) motivation for dispatching dogs? Bits of Hubertus' vision also following through in Kevin arguing that the stag should be saved and not killed. We don't have Dean's surname but I'm willing to bet it will turn out to be Lambert for the same reason.
I might have something longer on Lori and her reasons for joining the GR, because I was having that exact conversation after watching ep 8, and probably then also something on the significance of the house.
― and she's crying in a stairwell in Devon (aldo), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 08:46 (nine years ago) link
Not looking forward to the Memorial Day painathon in the finale tbh
― Simon H., Tuesday, 26 August 2014 11:26 (nine years ago) link
I didn't see the Next Week On but I'm assuming the GR stealing all those family photos had something to do with the clothes and the carcasses in the church last week
― Now you're messing with a (President Keyes), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 14:02 (nine years ago) link
"We don't have Dean's surname but I'm willing to bet it will turn out to be Lambert for the same reason."
wait, why?
― akm, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 14:10 (nine years ago) link
oh I see
― akm, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 14:12 (nine years ago) link
Uh...ok.
― Hadrian VIII, Monday, 8 September 2014 03:17 (nine years ago) link
love this show
― Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Monday, 8 September 2014 06:05 (nine years ago) link
it's over now, yes? time to dig in?
― the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Monday, 8 September 2014 06:43 (nine years ago) link
eww do you actually wait to 'binge watch'? but yeah, the season finale aired.
― some dude, Monday, 8 September 2014 11:28 (nine years ago) link
binge watching the Leftovers would be pretty depressing imo
― Now you're messing with a (President Keyes), Monday, 8 September 2014 12:07 (nine years ago) link
yeah after i watch an episode i definitely needed a palate cleanser of something more upbeat to watch, and a few days' break before i watched another
― some dude, Monday, 8 September 2014 12:37 (nine years ago) link
that was a p good finale, I thought.
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 8 September 2014 14:26 (nine years ago) link
As little trust as i have in the creators here, i was waiting till the end of the season so that if there was A CLEVER TWIST i could just skip it
― the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Monday, 8 September 2014 14:31 (nine years ago) link
Nothing like that
― Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Monday, 8 September 2014 15:21 (nine years ago) link
that's what i was waiting to hear... but they left it open for season two with potential to fuck it up later?
― the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Monday, 8 September 2014 15:34 (nine years ago) link
Well yeah but really that's every show, isn't it?
― Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Monday, 8 September 2014 15:34 (nine years ago) link
This show is far more brazenly not about the plot or the "mystery" than most
― Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Monday, 8 September 2014 15:35 (nine years ago) link
I hear season 2 is all new cast and new global cataclysm to mope about
― Now you're messing with a (President Keyes), Monday, 8 September 2014 15:35 (nine years ago) link
xp i suppose. really really hold a lot of enmity toward the lost team still, you know?
― the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Monday, 8 September 2014 15:36 (nine years ago) link
Mr Veg and I were bracing for full-Lindelof handwavey ending shenanigans and were pleasantly surprised to find that there wasn't really any of that.
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 8 September 2014 15:37 (nine years ago) link
k, will try.
― the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Monday, 8 September 2014 15:40 (nine years ago) link
I don't know, I really dug this show but the finale tipped me off that they didn't really know exactly what they were doing...the whole Wayne storyline was only compelling to the extent that it portended some connection to the vanishing, plus I assumed we'd get some backstory on him before they wrote him off.
Also, I get that the remainder people are devoted to fucking with people, but when it elevates logistically & elaborately like this—that they are smuggling lookalike dummies into people's homes, there needs to be some commensurate insight into their belief system or something beyond just "Duh we're making them remember" again. The acting is so good on this show but the emotional amplitude esp. in the finale seemed independent of the storyline.
― Hadrian VIII, Monday, 8 September 2014 19:51 (nine years ago) link
just because they wrote him off doesn't mean we won't get back story imo -- this show goes hard w/ flashbacks, and it's a good portion of the storytelling
as for the commensurate insight into their belief system for me, part of the 'appeal' of the Guilty Remnants is that they *are* so circumspect. And I feel like I know enough about how they roll through the exposition given piecemeal here and there to take this whole event as them somehow, idk, levelling up their presence in the town. and that they did it knowing that shit would go crazy. like, it seems like part of their motivation is chaos-driven. how do we NOT allow status quo. or the short version of all that is that I didn't mind that there was no big explanation.
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 8 September 2014 20:15 (nine years ago) link
they've done such a good job developing the key characters enough for me to engage with them and their journeys, where I don't mind that i'm not getting answers to the big crazy important questions that keep arising
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 8 September 2014 20:17 (nine years ago) link
Probably the best prism through which to view the show: http://www.vox.com/2014/9/7/6116687/leftovers-depression-hbo
― Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Monday, 8 September 2014 20:32 (nine years ago) link
That's true, and the backstory episode was my favorite of the season. I don't really want a big explanation, I would just to feel like the characters themselves know wtf is going on, and after the finale I have this sinking feeling that the GR circumspection (which yes is appealing) is just the writers' proxy cluelessness. For example, maybe I'm thick but I still can't square away why Patti would brutally murder one of her own (lady tied to tree)—that's not a big crazy question, it's just a mechanical plot thing that for me at least was insufficiently explained and comes off more like it was thrown at the wall for effect.
― Hadrian VIII, Monday, 8 September 2014 20:42 (nine years ago) link