thought this'd be about the 50th anniversary of gulf of tonkin (i.e., today).
i read 'plain speaking' when i was like 19 and went through a very brief 'yeah truman!' phase. was crestfallen to realize later that most of it was basically just truman making shit up.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 01:03 (ten years ago) link
hey balls, kill yourself
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 01:16 (ten years ago) link
also if you even refer to me on so much as a film thread i will hunt you down
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 01:18 (ten years ago) link
as for Nixon, i'm through obsessing on him when Obama makes him look like St Francis
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 01:22 (ten years ago) link
i referred to you. times to get those toes to twinkling bill casey.
― balls, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 01:33 (ten years ago) link
i'm through obsessing on him when Obama makes him look like St Francis
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius),
are you fucking kidding me
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 01:36 (ten years ago) link
number of civilian deaths from drone strikes, 2009-present: 2,400+
number of civilian deaths in operation rolling thunder, 1969-70, and operation freedom deal, 1970-73: 40,000 to 150,000
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 01:52 (ten years ago) link
shall we look at civil liberties next
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 01:53 (ten years ago) link
shall we?
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 01:53 (ten years ago) link
howbout we just forget it and you can continue to give RWR a 10 in 'genius'
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 01:54 (ten years ago) link
are you really so addled? you're the one who said Nixon was St. Francis compared to Obama.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 01:57 (ten years ago) link
i don't see those toes twinkling morbs. let's get a move on already.
― balls, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 01:57 (ten years ago) link
Well, hell. Now that you mention it.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Saint_Francis_of_Assisi_by_Jusepe_de_Ribera.jpg/475px-Saint_Francis_of_Assisi_by_Jusepe_de_Ribera.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2c/Richard_Nixon_victory_wave.jpg
― pplains, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 02:00 (ten years ago) link
i realize nothing's going to shake you from the stance that obama is The Worst Ever on every single issue, but damned if i can find a single fucking reason to be nostalgic for a president who used his power to harass and spy on people he personally disliked, ordered his goons to commit break-ins and theft, wanted to blow up a building to prevent the pentagon papers from being published, and said on television that the presidency grants you the right to break any law you feel like.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 02:28 (ten years ago) link
trying to imagine Eric Holder testifying before Congress like John Mitchell, blithely telling legislators that the loss of Richard Nixon in 1972 mattered more than the Constitution.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 02:59 (ten years ago) link
anyone read Nixonland? how is it if so? i quite fancy the idea of this Invisible Bridge book, but i just re-read All The President's Men and The Final Days so i may well be Nixoned out for a good year at least.
― piscesx, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 04:57 (ten years ago) link
it and the goldwater book (before the storm) are both must-read. start with the goldwater cuz you're supposed to anyway and you'll have (kind of) a nixon break. the main thing i remember him doing in that book (maybe even accurately) is shooting out a hand to keep pat in her seat when the rest of the RNC rises to applaud "extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice".
― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 05:40 (ten years ago) link
what alfred says about the granularity of sources goes for the other two books as well. nixonland in particular is a terrifying panorama.
― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 05:41 (ten years ago) link
thanks yeah i must read that Goldwater one too, i know next to nothing about him.
― piscesx, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 07:25 (ten years ago) link
anyone read Nixonland?
best US politics book I've read.
― The beer was cold, but so was the glass, which drives me crazy. (stevie), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 10:58 (ten years ago) link
am guessing these facts will mean little to the armond white of political opinions
― The beer was cold, but so was the glass, which drives me crazy. (stevie), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 10:59 (ten years ago) link
yes JD, obv Obama Holder & Co are the more competent, stealthy evil
(and their national surveillance state is mainstream -- it's Nixonworld now)
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 11:10 (ten years ago) link
also fuck you all and please kill me
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 11:11 (ten years ago) link
you know, when you express opinions that people find incomprehensible, you shouldn't be surprised when they challenge you to explain them. it's called conversation, or debate, or whatever. you might even find that you can win people over to your side if you explain why you feel so aggrieved. that you always greet these requests for elaboration with threats of violence and impotent rage just makes you seem full of shit. and i'm guessing that you're actually not, but you're offering precious little evidence of anything else. i mean, you're just doing this for the attention at this point, aren't you?
[cue splenetic and pointless reply along with threat to never darken this thread again in 3... 2... 1...]
― The beer was cold, but so was the glass, which drives me crazy. (stevie), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 11:33 (ten years ago) link
TPM has anexcerpt.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 14:18 (ten years ago) link
Ha, Alfred. Why didn't you say something?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Saint_Francis_of_Assisi_by_Jusepe_de_Ribera.jpg/475px-Saint_Francis_of_Assisi_by_Jusepe_de_Ribera.jpg
http://www.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_982w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2014/07/21/BookWorld/Images/Invisible%20Bridge.jpg
― pplains, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 14:41 (ten years ago) link
That's a great cover.
― The beer was cold, but so was the glass, which drives me crazy. (stevie), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 14:57 (ten years ago) link
Man yeah thats incredible
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 14:58 (ten years ago) link
I want this book so bad.
― The beer was cold, but so was the glass, which drives me crazy. (stevie), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 15:12 (ten years ago) link
check out Reagan rising!
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 15:22 (ten years ago) link
also:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWV6V4JYEUw
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 15:23 (ten years ago) link
oh you're all over here. i put this on that reagan thread:
perlstein update! they're going after him for plagiarism
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/05/business/media/rick-perlsteins-the-invisible-bridge-draws-criticism.html
oh i'm for sure buying it now.
― ♪♫ teenage wasteman ♪♫ (goole), Tuesday, August 5, 2014 11:06 AM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― ♪♫ teenage wasteman ♪♫ (goole), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 16:25 (ten years ago) link
yeah that 'controversy' is laughable
― balls, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 16:46 (ten years ago) link
I've done enough research to sympathize with any attempt to simply the act of collation.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 16:49 (ten years ago) link
having the endnotes on a website makes perfect sense to me.
― The beer was cold, but so was the glass, which drives me crazy. (stevie), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 16:58 (ten years ago) link
i mean, nixonland almost broke my back carrying it around while i was reading it.
― The beer was cold, but so was the glass, which drives me crazy. (stevie), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 16:59 (ten years ago) link
sorry morbs, as per usual i foolishly assumed your posting on a message board full of ppl with diverse views meant you were interested in a conversation, as opposed to just throwing out glib statements with an undertone of "y'all can't handle the truth" and offering either more of the same or "fuck you" when asked to back them up, will try to avoid making that mistake in the future.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 17:46 (ten years ago) link
go have a conversation with 'balls'
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 17:53 (ten years ago) link
morbs when you're curled up on the floor in the middle of the night, crying and moaning about how you turned into such a dumb miserable fuck, a bigot playing out his last days online defending child rape and richard nixon, when you're there on the floor, thinking about how it'll all be over soon and how few will notice and fewer still care, do you take those deep intake sobs where it's almost like you're hyperventilating and you can hear the emptiness of your thick skull? cuz that's how i picture. or do you just lie there, silent, unblinking, urinating all over yrself? the latter seems to subtle and lacking of self pity for you ime so it's the sobs right?
― balls, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 18:31 (ten years ago) link
Man what is your problem
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 19:04 (ten years ago) link
bumping to flag that post
wtf balls
― Brad C., Tuesday, 5 August 2014 23:56 (ten years ago) link
let's all use our FPs judiciously
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 6 August 2014 02:45 (ten years ago) link
i bet that sounded really great in your head
― go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 6 August 2014 04:35 (ten years ago) link
i said it out loud b4 i typed
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 6 August 2014 04:38 (ten years ago) link
(test the good stuff that way)
the armond white of political opinions
― You are exactly why people root for the apes (Eric H.), Wednesday, 6 August 2014 04:43 (ten years ago) link
hey hey now balls, that was a mean thing to say to the guy who told you to die
― Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 05:34 (ten years ago) link
mine was an xp but whatevs
― go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 6 August 2014 05:36 (ten years ago) link
"go die" is standard Tombot shit
also Obama needs to be credited with his share of the billions (ie everyone) who will die in climate change
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 6 August 2014 11:00 (ten years ago) link
'superior' to Nixon in prosecuting whistleblowers as well
oh no Armondized by the guy who worships Brian fucking de Palma
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 6 August 2014 11:03 (ten years ago) link