The Michael Mann poll

yeah risky business is awesome, booger's great in it

cyber is "blackhat"

trailer just screened at comiccon apparently

lol

I'd go to MannCon. Nice suits, Vertu phones, tradecraft demos from former Special Forces dudes.

Would be up for some Crime Story cosplay.

probably not a good idea to cosplay the keep

I want to be the preposterously not old enough Ian mckellen!

http://youtu.be/tKyuDgygvqc

not really feeling it

this is going to be popular with people who have black hats of a certain type

Such a 90s view of hacking

As long as there are some clouds in there, I'm happy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUF3MhPKhv4

this will hold you Less Than Meets the Eye fanboys til the Q____ T______ western is ready.

Agree trailer is underwhelming

Excited to see what Mann does with HK at night, such a claustrophobic city that I'm not sure he can make it work like LA

Like not surprising he turned his camera away from the busy island/Kowloon skyline and towards the "less" developed West Kowloon/Tsuen Wan area

this will hold you Less Than Meets the Eye fanboys til the Q____ T______ western is ready.

― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius),

and this thread will serve as your chewtoy.

Also it looks like Mann chose Val Kilmer's son?

Trailer underwhelming, don't care gonna see anyway.

Trailer underwhelming, don't care gonna see anyway.

― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 25 September 2014 23:30

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"We're not going to beat him from the outside."

"No..."

"It's OK. I know what I'm doing."

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is there some Moby in this or what

The tron light bike POV shot of the internet's circuits short-circuiting... I mean really.

Who wrote this? Morgan Davis Foehl? Looks like a relative newbie/hack getting some Hollywood traction. Anyway, even the closest Mann's come to failures have been compelling, and given how much he enjoys depicting intelligence on screen as much as gun fights, I'm totally on board for another movie about smart people with guns.

Looks so bad.

Bet it'll be good, much better than the trailer produced by Legendary's marketing department.

but no the trailer is the film iirc

morbius what michael mann is good, i never really got it. i kinda liked thief.

*don't ask Morbs*

Thief is one I can't rewatch.

he got better at commissioning dopey electronic scores and putting Strong Man and Supporting Woman in more dialectical and interesting compositional ways later.

diner scene pretty stellar though

I still haven't seen Thief. I liked Last of the Mohicans and, with reservations, Heat. Manhunter was OK.

hey thank you. haven't seen last of the mohicans. & manhunter is kinda ehh to me. i am always just so bemused by the superlatives about his artistry & colour; can anyone rep for demonstrations of this in action, beyond like taxicab-night-photography in collateral?

actually p down with tangerine dream in thief, btw, alfred, & found james caan a pretty singular Strong Man portrait.

Great: Manhunter, Miami Vice
Reasonably OK: Collateral, Public Enemies, The Insider
Not a fan: Mohicans, Ali

I'm down with LOFM.

Paul Schrader wrote recently about how Collateral showed how you could see into the dark of night digitally, my reaction to which is idgaf.

http://images.rottentomatoes.com/images/movie/gallery/1156584/photo_15_hires.jpg

That frame (I love his MV, esp the version with the cold open) is why Mann goes digital so much lately. Because short CGI work, there is no other easy way to light that shot. He's really into trying to capture what the night looks to our eyes, not stylized for film. Which of course it still ends up being.

My faves may be Heat, Collateral, Thief and maybe at the top The Insider. Mid for me is Manhunter, Mohicans. Bottom is Ali and Public Enemies, though both are worth watching, esp. his director's cut of the former.

Putting gray hair on both Cruise and Crowe = we are watching a really snazzily photographed high-school play.

My fave quote about MM is Armond White's "You know less about Ali when the movie's over than you did when it began."

Favorites, in order: Thief, Heat (though Pacino is close to intolerable for most of it), Miami Vice (especially if you watch it with the sound off), Collateral (I'd love it so much more if it ended right after Foxx flips the taxi, though).
Middle tier: The Insider, Manhunter.
Bottom: Ali, Public Enemies.

Haven't seen Last of the Mohicans or The Keep.

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/a_film_by/conversations/topics/14749

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One of the more subtle aspects of "Collateral" is that the events that take place would not have happened had Jamie Foxx not been such a good cabbie that he gets Jada (on Cruise's hit list) where she's going early, which throws off the otherwise meticulous Tom Cruise. That he is subsequently forced to shuttle Cruise is, how you say, dramatic irony.

Heh "Mann poll."

One of the blind stupid aspects of "Collateral" is that the events that take place would not have happened had Tom Cruise rented a car.

A tourist in LA? He'd get stuck in traffic because he doesn't know the secret routes.

shit is that really supposed to be the plot device

I actually don't remember! It's possible he blames Jamie Foxx for messing up his ride?

Max's next fare is a businessman named Vincent (Tom Cruise) who exits the building just after Annie entered. Vincent is impressed by Max's skill at navigating the streets of LA and offers Max $600 to drive him for the entire night, against regulations. Max reluctantly agrees, the money too much to pass up. As Max waits at the first stop, a man falls onto the cab roof from above. Vincent has killed his first of five marks for the night, drug dealer Ramón Ayala, and is forced to reveal himself as a hitman. He coerces Max to hide the body in the trunk, clean up the car and continue with their arrangement.

I guess the idea is he needs a getaway driver?

The plan, except that the first guy he shot went out the window, was to have Max drive him to six stops then to LAX for a flight out. As if he were a notary or a lawyer or something, getting signatures.

Didn't know this until now:

Collateral sat on DreamWorks' development books for three years. Mimi Leder was initially attached to direct, it then passed on to Janusz Kamiński. It wasn't until Russell Crowe became interested in playing Vincent that the project started generating any heat. Crowe brought Michael Mann on board, but the constant delays meant that Crowe left the project. Mann immediately went to Tom Cruise with the idea of him playing the hitman and Adam Sandler as the cabbie.

Beattie wanted the studio to cast Robert De Niro as Max (once again making him a taxi driver, though the exact opposite of Travis Bickle). However, the studio refused, insisting they wanted a younger actor in the role.