The culturally middle class types I mentioned have their own defining trait, which is, I'm pretty sure, to go out to a city centre where everyone has gone to get pissed, to go to a nightclub, get pissed and take drugs, with 100s of others like yrselves, but pretend you're not into it; seems like a thread that's run right through from the days of skaters and nu metal 00-03, thru high-end landfill indie'n'electro days 2008-2012, thru to today's ... BBC6 types for want of a better word
― cardamon, Tuesday, 8 July 2014 22:20 (eleven years ago)
I'm trying to guess whether this is Leeds or Nottingham.
― thomasintrouble, Tuesday, 8 July 2014 22:21 (eleven years ago)
I think cardamon is talking about mcr. everyone seems to have v individual takes on class distinctions now, makes it tricky to discuss
― ogmor, Wednesday, 9 July 2014 16:27 (eleven years ago)
Think it's pretty well established that right across the UK, regardless of class, males who continually address their conversational partners as "Lads! Lads!" are almost perilously insecure in their masculinity.
― Branwell with an N, Wednesday, 9 July 2014 16:35 (eleven years ago)
depends tho on yr definition of binge drinking
― cpt navajo (darraghmac), Wednesday, 9 July 2014 17:13 (eleven years ago)
I just spent far too long trying to work out what My Chemical Romance had to do with Real England, ogmor.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 9 July 2014 17:48 (eleven years ago)
haha, did you come up with anything?
― ogmor, Wednesday, 9 July 2014 17:50 (eleven years ago)
Well, it did make me remember the time I passed a gang of teen girls proudly affirming to each other that "we're the Black Parade, motherfuckers". They were pretty cool. I think there's wiggle room here.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 9 July 2014 17:54 (eleven years ago)
ofc, what could be more english than the figureheads of the self-harming emo cult leading our youth astray?
― ogmor, Wednesday, 9 July 2014 18:13 (eleven years ago)
http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b527/nutzweiler/SAM_0726_zps90f6f088.jpghttp://rs1290.pbsrc.com/albums/b527/nutzweiler/SAM_0729_zps2d03a1bd.jpg~c100
― festival of labour (xelab), Saturday, 12 July 2014 00:36 (eleven years ago)
http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b527/nutzweiler/SAM_0729_zps2d03a1bd.jpg
― festival of labour (xelab), Saturday, 12 July 2014 00:38 (eleven years ago)
so many fonts
― NI, Saturday, 12 July 2014 03:47 (eleven years ago)
http://i.imgur.com/FAOUYdf.jpg
― Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Monday, 14 July 2014 01:40 (eleven years ago)
^the best and worst of real england in one article
― i'm elf-ein lusophonic (imago), Monday, 14 July 2014 01:43 (eleven years ago)
c class is not an executive saloonat least when i was between 8/9 and used to buy every football and car magazine every week 'executive saloon' referred to e class, 5 series, ls400 etc
― Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Monday, 14 July 2014 01:51 (eleven years ago)
In the London Police Act 1839, "fighting or baiting Lions, Bears, Badgers, Cocks, Dogs, or other Animals" was prohibited in London, with a penalty of up to one month imprisonment, with possible hard labour, or up to five pounds. The law laid numerous restrictions on how, when, and where animals could be driven, wagons unloaded, etc.. It also prohibited owners from letting mad dogs run loose and gave police the right to destroy any dog suspected of being rabid or any dog bitten by a suspected rabid dog. The same law prohibited the use of dogs for drawing carts.[65]
― Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Monday, 14 July 2014 02:02 (eleven years ago)
what if it was a very small cart
― i'm elf-ein lusophonic (imago), Monday, 14 July 2014 02:06 (eleven years ago)
http://i.imgur.com/LfuYX9c.jpg
― Nothing less than the Spirit of the Age (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 20:39 (eleven years ago)
http://archive.instituteartistmanagement.com/offer/thumb.php/00045838.jpg
― painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture (DavidM), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 22:10 (eleven years ago)
https://38.media.tumblr.com/b68befb55a2bb2c8feb9aa8429e0665a/tumblr_ncqjamibME1sy67obo1_500.jpghttps://33.media.tumblr.com/bdda229a7f2e477a4921d605d3bf0a69/tumblr_ncqjamibME1sy67obo7_r1_500.jpghttps://38.media.tumblr.com/63668e4734c077cce9bd90a2a35a23e7/tumblr_ncqjamibME1sy67obo6_500.jpg
― painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture (DavidM), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 22:23 (eleven years ago)
no
― Contrappunto dialettico alla mente (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 22:23 (eleven years ago)
ban
― Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 22:24 (eleven years ago)
unless there's an element of metacommentary wherein 'real england' is itself a reaching for fictive 'real england' that falls woefully short, in which case the photos qualify but the tableaux do not
― Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 22:25 (eleven years ago)
the acts of photography, even
https://33.media.tumblr.com/7d5ca41e66b74da919523fd7532835ff/tumblr_ncqjamibME1sy67obo2_500.jpghttps://31.media.tumblr.com/389c9cc416cf76745e72a6e16afb5bcc/tumblr_ncqjamibME1sy67obo3_500.jpghttps://33.media.tumblr.com/881a3e0d7f86b7745ee7d58109b37f4d/tumblr_ncqjamibME1sy67obo5_500.jpghttps://38.media.tumblr.com/a7f429c2dc682123f5c57cbcc73f59a9/tumblr_ncqjamibME1sy67obo4_500.jpg
From here: http://www.instituteartist.com/project-Shoreditch-Wildlife-Dougie-Wallace
― painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture (DavidM), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 22:28 (eleven years ago)
dougie wallace should be handed a box of painkillers and shiv and escorted into a dark room
― Contrappunto dialettico alla mente (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 22:31 (eleven years ago)
Whatever happened to baby Richard Billingham?
― xelab, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 22:32 (eleven years ago)
shoreditch wildlife
― Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 22:32 (eleven years ago)
is some superior cunt skulking around shoreditch with a camera real england? might well be
― Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 22:33 (eleven years ago)
I don't know if this is real england, I like this picture, though
http://fields.eca.ac.uk/gis/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/ne-11.jpg
― Angel Brain (soref), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 22:42 (eleven years ago)
(from this website: http://fields.eca.ac.uk/gis/)
― Angel Brain (soref), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 22:43 (eleven years ago)
theyre not superior, contempt might lend them some prurient intrigue, they arent even that
― Contrappunto dialettico alla mente (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 22:45 (eleven years ago)
same for the fuckboy with those blackpool fotos the other month
so random
http://payload312.cargocollective.com/1/7/241864/8540961/bones-shoreditch-exhibition-new_1200.jpg
― Contrappunto dialettico alla mente (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 22:46 (eleven years ago)
blackpool one had its moments but in general this sort of thing shd be discouraged
― Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 22:50 (eleven years ago)
the esthetic bankruptcy of thinking this stuff is remotely interesting, oh look an old person in a fluorescent tracksuit eating some shit food totes random me thinks
― Contrappunto dialettico alla mente (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 22:54 (eleven years ago)
well yeah. the blackpool one at least had some cute tonal juxtapositions & content. basing anything like this in shoreditch is end-of-days shit
― Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 23:03 (eleven years ago)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/46/Godshill_Model_Village_-_geograph.org.uk_-_757993.jpg
― ogmor, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 23:03 (eleven years ago)
:D back on track
― Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 23:05 (eleven years ago)
seems like your threshold for 'cute tonal juxtapositions & content' is even lower than your threshold for 'deconstructive' when applied to para-pop music
― Contrappunto dialettico alla mente (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 23:05 (eleven years ago)
theyre all dreadfully processed too
http://www.creativereview.co.uk/images/uploads/2010/07/p6158bwaterportraitsdou_0.jpg
i am weak & impressionable, sensei, but soon i shall scorn with the best of them
― Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 23:06 (eleven years ago)
my friend recently acquired a house which had previously belonged to an elderly single man who had replaced his front lawn with astroturf
― ogmor, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 23:06 (eleven years ago)
same dougie wallace was the blackpool guy but you knew that right?
― john wahey (NickB), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 23:07 (eleven years ago)
haha oh shit
even wastemen strike lucky sometimes? idk. i'm not invested in defending any of his work really, it's sub-vice-magazine voyeurism for the most part
― Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 23:08 (eleven years ago)
Any of you lot seen Finding Vivian Maier? Not the finest documentary and off topic but her photographs are exceptional and are more about obsessive curiosity rather than cheap, destitution art.
― xelab, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 23:09 (eleven years ago)
that pic that nakh linked to is troubling tbh and not just cos it's come out looking like a fsol inner sleeve
― john wahey (NickB), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 23:14 (eleven years ago)
As much as the mad night out, Dougie also gets the morning after - specifically, the equally off-kilter, spontaneous street theatre of Brick Lane market. Is the girl striking a pose for a fashion shoot or just for the passers by? What, really, is the difference anyhow? These streets are one big fashion parade anyway. They feel like a slightly demented and off-kilter parallel reality, a pocket of weirdness and colour, the Ditch beyond the Roman wall of the City where all the tat and flotsam Shore up, the no-man’s-land where everything mad and messy collides: roll up, roll up, come and get your plastic pink flamingoes, two for the price of one!
― Contrappunto dialettico alla mente (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 23:25 (eleven years ago)
Man, Blackpool as a whole is so Real England. Depressing, decaying seaside boulevards and bad tasting, fat fish and chips. And unemployment. And lad culture in full swing. That's what Real England is all about imho.
― definite classic, predicting a solid 8/10 from the p-fork boys (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 23:51 (eleven years ago)
dont u have all of that shit in the netherlands
― Contrappunto dialettico alla mente (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 23:52 (eleven years ago)