itt: consternation and wailing about Zach Snyder's upcoming SUPERMAN/BATMAN film/sequel to MAN OF STEEL -- official title: BATMAN V SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE

xp Right - the fact is that neither Marvel nor DC actually adhere to continuity anyway, and it's a really fun part of mainstream comics IMO. Even the early Ultimate stuff was pretty fun to have a unified universe, as they were trying to replicate the semi-realtime 60s Marvel era in spirit.

(Can't say I wasn't sad when they killed the Peter and MJ marriage though)

oh hell

I guess - I mean, one of the reasons I initially loved X-Men was BECAUSE it has such a crazy, labyrinthine universe! Even all the crazy crap they did in the Days of Future Past movie was a lot of fun.

uh oh we shitted up the Supes v Bats thread

You're right in that it would be nice if they gave up on tired old characters and passed the mantle on, as DC was doing prior to Crisis. I am really sick of Hal Jordan.

xp Ha, I forgot what thread this was for bit. I'll walk away

it's weird to act like these corporations, the ownership and direction of which has shifted multiple times over the decades, during which huge swathes of their respective creative departments switched back and forth, have any kind of inherent, coherent behavior patterns. These are not distinct individuals. They are constantly shifting conglomerates that have continuously tried to adapt to market pressures

No doubt it's strange, but both companies' success has been in large part by making the whole experience personal. Stan Lee, for whatever else he can be blamed for, was a master of this. I used to read letter columns and Stan's Soapbox religiously, felt like I knew Rascally Roy, was disappointed when Joltin' Jim Shooter left Marvel. Why, I ask myself- it's not like I knew what an Editor In Chief really did, or what business decisions were driving the creation or cancellation of any given title. But they were successful in selling that sense of personable familiarity. And the creators themselves, if they were memorable, were known and sought after, as any artist would be for a personal style, so it's easy for a longtime comics reader to continue to imbue a level of personal narrative continuity into the framework you've identified. (xxxposts)

uh oh we shitted up the Supes v Bats thread

whatever, it deserves it

You're right in that it would be nice if they gave up on tired old characters and passed the mantle on, as DC was doing prior to Crisis.

yeah I like Sims' stuff about the Legacy aspect of DC.

And yeah I get that both companies only defer to continuity when its convenient, really I'm fine with that. Maybe it's these giant, totally abritrary company-wide CONTINUITY EVENT things that put me off so much, because they inherently imply that everything in the company actually IS part of some continuity, and they're just an excuse to shuffle the properties around and make things even more complicated and stupid and to try out some new (usually terrible) ideas. And these things happen with an alarming regularity now. It's the companies' habitual cry for attention.

xxp

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/07/02/brian-bendis-teases-the-convergence-of-the-ultimate-and-616-universes-in-todays-ultimate-spider-man/

many xposts

I feel corporations do have patterns of behaviour regarding money-making strategies though, albeit rapidly evolving ones - I'd imagine there are certain standards and traditions which are expected to be upheld throughout various changes in management. In a similar way that a sports team will maintain a recognisable identity despite having barely any of the same personnel as even twenty years ago.

xp oh shit i saw that and went "huh i wonder where that's going" but couldn't have fathomed a Crisis maneuver

you mean like the traditions of ripping off your creative staffs, or being almost exclusively white and male (ok now I'm really derailing...)

xp

Well those ones go without saying.

time-honored

thx aldo

ChinButtBatFleck

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--GdxX-DeA--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/bajwd1lhgmw3ap722vly.jpg

the part catching the light looks like the pope mooning someone

is he taking a batnap

http://31.media.tumblr.com/318f93b810e7d54ba53c17b11e5251ca/tumblr_ms151fXzu11qgjynlo1_500.gif

like a tiny velour bottom

I actually like the cowl design TBF, good ears.

looks uncomfortably snug to me. he's going to have terrible cowl hair when he takes it off.

Is the word 'cowl' used in any modern context apart from talking about Batman's hat?

yes - cowl sweaters, etc

rpgs

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_large/6/66303/3916854-3848948-cowl%2B01.jpg

dont have a cowl man

Cowl-man would be a good dis name

shout out to kingfish

Frowny brow cowl

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BtfLTo5IYAAnYfc.jpg

sigh... this film will have no colours outside of black, grey and brown, right?

ochre

is that supposed to be wonder woman?

starting to get a Destroy All Monsters vibe

should've just cast xena

or done a xena movie instead

So many people are overjoyed at this online that I wonder if they remember that Zach Snyder will be writing her

no he won't

He's not? Who's writing it then?

chris terrio, writer of argo.

Why in the fuck is Wonder Woman wielding a sword?

Pardon me, Wikipedia lists that in her cadre of known weapons. I've certainly never seen it before, though.

she's rocked the greek-style short sword on and off for years

also superman has never had a cape in the comics, that was invented by the 78 movie to hide the flying rig

DC actually went in and altered all the original cartoons and comics to make it consistent with the new becaped Supes (and to screw the creators out of their rights)

Also Clark Kent was originally part kangaroo

ha ha, i had to look up the cape thing to be sure you were joking (and google autocompleted the phrase so someone else has wondered too). reminded me of batman's purple gloves.

i was thinking the same thing, really can't put anything past DC

http://www.zedsjoesite.com/review/wwgrundy/wwdcd.jpg