this is pure SEO-as-reportage, the dismal final frontier of journalism
― which was retweeted by (imago), Thursday, 3 July 2014 18:21 (ten years ago) link
the lowest common denominator of comment. these people are simply machines of the news agenda at its most brutalistic
― which was retweeted by (imago), Thursday, 3 July 2014 18:22 (ten years ago) link
yeah im glad there are still people ready to get upset about content under late capitalism or whatever you but im more just drawn to how little specialist aptitude is required for a writer on pop culture, music, tech, football, etc, surely 80% of the white people in london 22-40 could do this work
― Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Thursday, 3 July 2014 18:38 (ten years ago) link
these people sucked the right cocks, went to the right schools, knew the right m8s, and probably had (very) slightly more sophisticated content published in some guise at some point (university magazines lol)
― which was retweeted by (imago), Thursday, 3 July 2014 18:44 (ten years ago) link
we kinda need suzy to explain tho
― which was retweeted by (imago), Thursday, 3 July 2014 18:46 (ten years ago) link
i mean, there's the possibility they worked incredibly hard to build up blogging/article portfolios & networked like fuck to achieve these positions no matter their background, so well done them, now look what they're required to do, regression to pigshit, idk
― which was retweeted by (imago), Thursday, 3 July 2014 18:47 (ten years ago) link
doesn't keep me up at night
lj i think your latterday male feminism is slightly undermined once u suggest female journalists get their jobs from prostituting themselves
― Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Thursday, 3 July 2014 18:49 (ten years ago) link
I would imagine a lot of it is down to having the patience and confidence to keep pitching ideas until one gets accepted. If I had the time and inclination to propose this stuff to a variety of national newspapers five times a day, 365 days a year, knowing that the vast majority of the time it would be knocked back, I could be making that £82 a week too, but it is a hard grind.
― Wristy Hurlington (ShariVari), Thursday, 3 July 2014 18:53 (ten years ago) link
its not like u could argue there is some underprivileged person who could do their work better than them because there is no level of achievement here, they are all exactly as competent as each other
and yeah sharivari probably gets it with the £82.....most of these people presumably dont earn very much at all so the question of who works in this field is either who is psychotically committed to content farming or who has other income streams
― Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Thursday, 3 July 2014 18:56 (ten years ago) link
Rhiannon Cosslett still talks about temping to make ends meet. Even the successful bloggers are going to have irl jobs, for the most part.
― Wristy Hurlington (ShariVari), Thursday, 3 July 2014 18:59 (ten years ago) link
the sad thought is that it's probably mostly ppl who grew up w/ journalism aspirations who still long to be intrepid correspondents in a world where the press has utterly collapsed
― Mordy, Thursday, 3 July 2014 18:59 (ten years ago) link
like it's kinda a calling
― Mordy, Thursday, 3 July 2014 19:00 (ten years ago) link
the question of who works in this field is either who is psychotically committed to content farming or who has other income streams
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
― difficult listening hour, Thursday, 3 July 2014 19:02 (ten years ago) link
― Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Thursday, 3 July 2014 18:49 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
oh i was talking about michael hogan here too, while alluding to the overly patriarchal nature of newspaper journalism
and it's a metaphor of course ;)
― which was retweeted by (imago), Thursday, 3 July 2014 20:28 (ten years ago) link
slightly affronted u called me on that tbh
― which was retweeted by (imago), Thursday, 3 July 2014 20:32 (ten years ago) link
that wasn't the post I fpd u for ITT fwiw xxx
― cpt navajo (darraghmac), Thursday, 3 July 2014 20:48 (ten years ago) link
― Mordy, Thursday, 3 July 2014 19:59 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Mordy, Thursday, 3 July 2014 20:00 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this sector doesn't really have anything to do with anything that highminded
doesnt seem likely that stuart heritage decompensates in a panic during his oscars drinking game liveblog wishing he was writing about the sri lankan civil war
even if he does, cultural pessimism arguments don't seem that persuasive after that very lengthy and grave coates reparation article got record pageviews and serious traction all over the place
― Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Thursday, 3 July 2014 20:54 (ten years ago) link
Aleatoric.Aleatoric?Aleato-ric?Alea-tor-ic?
― Sufjan Grafton, Friday, 4 July 2014 04:08 (ten years ago) link
Lucy Rhiannon Cosslett is probably the worst writer in history
― online hardman, Friday, 4 July 2014 08:57 (ten years ago) link
http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/jul/05/jackmaster-and-oneman-field-day-parklife-djs
― ey, Sunday, 6 July 2014 10:43 (ten years ago) link
This thread needs a few guardian Caitlin Moran pics:
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/1/10/1357822542472/Caitlin-Moran-010.jpg
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/BOOKS/Pix/pictures/2014/1/29/1391015565519/Caitlin-Moran-011.jpg
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Observer/Pix/pictures/2011/6/16/1308246840164/caitlin-moran-on-tyre-swi-007.jpg
― Comfrey Mugwort (Bob Six), Sunday, 6 July 2014 11:01 (ten years ago) link
speaking of...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Br4KHIlIQAElEV-.jpg:large
― ey, Sunday, 6 July 2014 17:32 (ten years ago) link
― Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 6 July 2014 19:01 (ten years ago) link
A few posts above you
― Towards A New Novel (and it sucks and whatever) (wins), Sunday, 6 July 2014 19:05 (ten years ago) link
But yeah, Jesus. I couldn't finish it
― Towards A New Novel (and it sucks and whatever) (wins), Sunday, 6 July 2014 19:06 (ten years ago) link
Haha, oops! So bad it had to be posted twice.
― Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 6 July 2014 20:56 (ten years ago) link
An article about an article
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jul/13/clayton-m-christensen-theory-disruptive-innovation-debunked
― badg, Monday, 14 July 2014 16:10 (ten years ago) link
a few weeks ago, a Harvard historian had the temerity to ask if Emperor Christensen had any clothes. Writing in the New Yorker, Jill Lepore gave The Innovator's Dilemma the kind of unsympathetic third degree to which historians regularly subject the books of their professional peers.
― badg, Monday, 14 July 2014 16:11 (ten years ago) link
first paragraph shows complete misunderstanding of innovator's dilemma, didn't continue any further. econ's a social science so picking it apart shouldn't be difficult (that's why the word 'social' is there, to let you know it's not actually science) but these lazy motherfuckers aren't up to the task. it's like watching a snail fail to outrun a tortoise.
― balls, Monday, 14 July 2014 17:48 (ten years ago) link
Quiz: What type of Facebook user are you?
― caek, Monday, 28 July 2014 10:29 (ten years ago) link
A 29 year old on being 29 years old: "being 29 is great!"http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/aug/05/29-perfect-age-friend
― Barry Gordy (Neil S), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 09:45 (ten years ago) link
lol "Daisy Buchanan"
― Prostitute Farm Online (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 10:08 (ten years ago) link
Tomorrow: Simon Legree writes on Intersectionality and Privilege Checking
― Prostitute Farm Online (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 10:11 (ten years ago) link
Blimey - that's poor, even by guardian standards.
― Comfrey Mugwort (Bob Six), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 10:53 (ten years ago) link
i wish comment wasn't free
― Daphnis Celesta, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 10:54 (ten years ago) link
"why being young is great and not terrible like you thought"
― Daphnis Celesta, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 10:56 (ten years ago) link
Since when was 29 young?
― We cry crows craws (Tom D.), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 12:29 (ten years ago) link
about the last 10 years in my case
― Daphnis Celesta, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 12:36 (ten years ago) link
I am 29, and I am young.
― Sufjan Grafton, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 15:26 (ten years ago) link
it helps to not read the guardian tbh
― Sufjan Grafton, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 15:27 (ten years ago) link
Amir Khan feeds his muscles with MaxiNutrition protein when training and competing #feedyourmuscles www.maxinutrition.com
― dem bow dem bow need calcium (seandalai), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 21:35 (ten years ago) link
I can remember when the Guardian started following the tabloids in having shitty, asinine interviews with non-entities in the sport section but also started supplying extra sponsorship details below the article. Like Michael Owen wears Nike predator mk2 whatever whatevers because he is a cunt
― xelab, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 21:45 (ten years ago) link
Oh wow I thought this was a strange one-off. I guess I don't read the sports section that often.
― dem bow dem bow need calcium (seandalai), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 22:01 (ten years ago) link
It has been going on for years.
― xelab, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 22:05 (ten years ago) link
been going on for three/four years certainly. seems it can be difficult to get access to players these days without promising to mention a sponsor (saw journos complaining about this for cricket a while ago).
wonder if this came out of the - more laudable? - requirement to promote charitable work when doing an interview (such and such was interviewed at an away day for inner city children etc) which I assume also came from clubs/agents and appears to have been going on longer.
Not sure what would happen if newspapers refused to do it, though presumably they find it difficult to hold rank like that.
― Fizzles, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 04:24 (ten years ago) link
http://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2014/aug/07/plop-horror-rocks-most-shocking-toilet-related-incidents
― sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Thursday, 7 August 2014 14:07 (ten years ago) link
not a complaint: am feeling the subtly added new thing on the front page of the music section where the lead images are rotated and briefly morph into one another. specifically the transition between T Swift > K Bush
― for sale: Bebe's boots, never worn (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 23 August 2014 10:18 (ten years ago) link
massive subbing errors in the weekend mag this week - huge chunk of cover feature missing, another chunk of same feature repeated twice. i mean, i'm sure the whole thing is available on the website, but way to go at convincing people buying the physical paper is a waste of time.
the weekend is generally a great supplement, too.
― i was a downy lad, and twee (stevie), Saturday, 23 August 2014 10:52 (ten years ago) link
I'm not sure how that "Bup Stop" story got onto the front page of the online version.
― djh, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 22:08 (ten years ago) link