Is the Guardian worse than it used to be?

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it's all just conjecture. I can't believe something so highly personal and lacking in substance is even given airtime. She is just waffling on and on about a specific family situation.

Local Garda, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 11:51 (seventeen years ago)

I've always found "regular" weed/hash more likely to turn me into a monged out lethargo than mind-bending killer skunk, but that's probably just my violent delusions again.

And yeah skunk was around when I was at school in the lol early 90s.

I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE UP TO (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 11:57 (seventeen years ago)

oh my that paxman interview is quite something

"there is an emergency out there called skunk"

cozwn, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 12:04 (seventeen years ago)

"we bought him clothes, we bought him sandwiches"

cozwn, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 12:09 (seventeen years ago)

"and he sold both for drugzz..."

Mark G, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 12:26 (seventeen years ago)

I'm disappointed that when she says "Oh there's lots of context you don't see" Paxman doesn't challenge her and say "well what a shit book then if you have to explain this on TV"

Local Garda, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 12:32 (seventeen years ago)

lol "skunk" good luck britain

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 12:38 (seventeen years ago)

This "OMG THIS NEW SKUNK IS A MUCH STRONGER VARIATION TEH CANNABIS" really pisses me off.
Yes it is strong and a dangerous drug, but it's the 'NEW' part that bothers me.
As far as my experience with cannabis goes - skunk has been the norm on the street for over 8 years.

wasn't there another article that was saying "upskirt" is some new phenomenon??

\∫Öζ/.... argh oh noes! (ken c), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 12:40 (seventeen years ago)

Skunk-smoking upskirters terrorising Julie Myerson.

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 12:43 (seventeen years ago)

Julie Myerson guilty of upskunking her son I think.

Dom Cry For Me, Passantino (NickB), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 12:45 (seventeen years ago)

the dossier was skunked up

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 13:13 (seventeen years ago)

is this a Good Story

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 14:01 (seventeen years ago)

I think you mean A Good Story.

Mylene Cockfarmer (Raw Patrick), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 14:03 (seventeen years ago)

No. In all seriousness, I don't think it is. I'd have thought that to the vast majority of potential readers, it's a whinging middle-class cock-end whinging about middle-class cock-endry. A Good Story has (arguably) universal appeal; it's something about which (arguably) everyone is meant to have an opinion. This? Seriously, does anyone give a flying one?

Atoms are "balls" (grimly fiendish), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 14:04 (seventeen years ago)

(I am interested in what MC thinks, though. After all, it's his classification system!)

Atoms are "balls" (grimly fiendish), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 14:05 (seventeen years ago)

i don't understand why anybody would want to read a book that, from reading all of those articles, seems to be about how crap they were at parenting, that is not about what lessons they had learnt out of it (as there seems to be none), but some kind of celebration(?) of wow what a brilliantly tragic tale we have to tell?

\∫Öζ/.... argh oh noes! (ken c), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 14:16 (seventeen years ago)

is this what middle class people do instead of going on jeremy kyle?

\∫Öζ/.... argh oh noes! (ken c), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 14:17 (seventeen years ago)

i might write a book about how crap i am at my job

\∫Öζ/.... argh oh noes! (ken c), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 14:19 (seventeen years ago)

Just to agree with the people saying that skunk is hardly new. I smoked skunk in 1996 when I was 12.

Blackout Crew are the Beatles of donk (jim), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 14:22 (seventeen years ago)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bd/Skunk_anansie-01.jpg

Skunk Anansie were an English rock band whose members included Skin (Deborah Dyer), Cass (Richard Lewis), Ace (Martin Kent) and Mark Richardson. The group formed in 1994 and disbanded in 2001. They were named after the West African folk tales of Anansie the spider-man[1], with “Skunk” added to “make the name nastier.”[2] They were often grouped as part of a Britrock movement, running alongside Britpop. The band in 2004, were named as one of the most-successful UK chart acts between 1952-2003 by Guinness Book of British Hit Singles & Albums, with a total of 141 weeks on both the singles and album charts ranking them at #491.[3] When the book first published this annual top 500 list in 2000, it only involved weeks spent on the singles chart until 2004's 17th edition, meaning the band's highest ranking has not been notified in any of the past editions. Their longest running release is 1996's Stoosh album with 55 weeks and a peak of #9.[3]

\∫Öζ/.... argh oh noes! (ken c), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 14:27 (seventeen years ago)

Raders are going to be disappointed she spends half the book banging on about her attempt to write the biography of a nineteenth century girl painter. (They are both lost children, do you see?)

woofwoofwoof, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 14:28 (seventeen years ago)

Readers, that is.

woofwoofwoof, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 14:28 (seventeen years ago)

Raders of the Lost Boy

Dom Cry For Me, Passantino (NickB), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 14:33 (seventeen years ago)

Or the Lost Child or whatever it is.

Dom Cry For Me, Passantino (NickB), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 14:35 (seventeen years ago)

im so confused about marijuana in the uk

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 14:35 (seventeen years ago)

Don't read anything to do with this Myerson stuff, then.

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 14:41 (seventeen years ago)

Stop smoking so much skunk, then.

\∫Öζ/.... argh oh noes! (ken c), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 14:44 (seventeen years ago)

otm

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 14:45 (seventeen years ago)

The families torn apart by teenage skunk epidemic

Bonus points for the Daily Mail hyperlink wording of "drugs-skunk-family' and bringing in the 'chief reporter', no less.

It is the end of a taboo: articulate, middle-class parents are speaking out about the nightmare of seeing their children spiral into drug abuse and, all too often, mental illness. Many blame themselves for staying silent, assuming that modern strains of cannabis were little different from the pot that baby boomers smoked at college. The reality is very different

The campaign to get the Myersons rehabilitated and back on the Clapham/Camden intelligensia dinner party circuit in well underway.

Bob Six, Sunday, 15 March 2009 10:05 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/mar/13/global-economy-capitalism

ok what the fuck

this exact article -- which is pretty disgusting head-in-the-sand free-market fundie nonsense anyway -- was in the telegraph already.

FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Monday, 16 March 2009 14:21 (seventeen years ago)

Amusing headshot tho.
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2008/12/17/1229519094151/andrew.jpg

Say what you like Professor Words (Ned Trifle II), Monday, 16 March 2009 14:24 (seventeen years ago)

i think it's good they publish people like simon jenkins and jenni russell but this fuckwit is a step too far.

FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Monday, 16 March 2009 14:26 (seventeen years ago)

I think he's basically correct (though I'm a lot less bothered about preserving incentives for risk-taking and innovation in the finance industry) Strange times. Strange bedfellows.

Dude in poingnant plight of a true believer when the true faith has ceased to be useful.

Bad fucking Bowie (Lord Byron Lived Here), Monday, 16 March 2009 15:16 (seventeen years ago)

his whole premise is violently anti-social.

FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Monday, 16 March 2009 15:18 (seventeen years ago)

Don't get me wrong, I think the guy's a jizz-flake. He just seems like a jizz-flake who's too proud to do the whole 'we've always been at war with Eurasia' thing like most of his tribe.

Bad fucking Bowie (Lord Byron Lived Here), Monday, 16 March 2009 15:27 (seventeen years ago)

three weeks pass...

Laura Barton patronises the nation, part one.

joe, Tuesday, 7 April 2009 09:25 (seventeen years ago)

Lincolnshire was once a land of Roman forts and RAF stations, a county famed for iron mining, cabbages, cauliflowers, Thatcher. Today it has a population that is largely white and increasingly elderly, and a cluster of fading seaside resorts: Cleethorpes, Chapel St Leonards, Skegness.

just terrible writing. lincolnshire used to be famed for its cabbages; now it has fading sea resorts like skegness. which was practically san fucking tropez during the dim and distant thatcher regime.

FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 09:37 (seventeen years ago)

she stopped short of long shadows across cricket fields

Local Garda, Tuesday, 7 April 2009 09:40 (seventeen years ago)

Last year, Skegness was named the country's most traditionally British town, where Britishness is measured in tearooms, cricket clubs, pubs, chip shops, holiday camps, stately homes and theatres. In Skegness there is one of each for every 162 residents.

One cricket club for every 162 people is pretty astonishing, to be fair.

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 7 April 2009 09:42 (seventeen years ago)

Largely white? She means it wasn't so white when the Romans were building their forts?

Sacco, Vanzetti, Passantino... (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 09:42 (seventeen years ago)

Caecilius would happily greet an RAF pilot on his way to the baths. Then later they would both play cricket against a team of slave girls.

Local Garda, Tuesday, 7 April 2009 09:44 (seventeen years ago)

a population that is largely white and increasingly elderly

images of white fatties aging before one's very eyes.

turnover is validating, profit is salivating (ledge), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 09:44 (seventeen years ago)

Caecilius would happily greet an RAF pilot on his way to the baths. Then later they would both play cricket against a team of slave girls.

Using a cabbage as a ball

Sacco, Vanzetti, Passantino... (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 09:45 (seventeen years ago)

This after fighting their way through high street pavements which were, it felt in those days, rammed with holiday camps and tearooms.

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 7 April 2009 09:45 (seventeen years ago)

Sometimes you would wake in the middle of the night and have a cup of tea. Other times on your way home from digging cabbages, a small child would give you a cup. Other times still, a local priest would molest the child while the entire village was asleep.

Local Garda, Tuesday, 7 April 2009 09:46 (seventeen years ago)

But there is a sense of resilience here too, there in the gaiety of the pansies in the flower tubs

the pinefox, Tuesday, 7 April 2009 10:23 (seventeen years ago)

I know someone from Skegness, must ask her how accurate this portrayal is

Sacco, Vanzetti, Passantino... (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 10:25 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.bobpitch.com/anon/badbrains_skegness.jpg

a tiny, faltering megaphone (grimly fiendish), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 10:27 (seventeen years ago)

Though the flowers remain, they are old flowers, struggling mightily against the dingy plastic sides of their tubs. It is tempting to see a metaphor here. In Skegness, the mainly white flowerkeepers have not quite succumbed to an irreversible slide into I know not what, but will modern Britain ever again allow them to climb out and breathe the pure air of cricket clubs and mown grass? I wonder.

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 7 April 2009 10:45 (seventeen years ago)

Already there are some early visitors, zig-zagging like drowsy bees through the streets in search of fun, the air filled with the smell of chip fat, onion rings and marshmallow penises.

Dom Cry For Me, Passantino (NickB), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 11:07 (seventeen years ago)


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