Is the Guardian worse than it used to be?

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it's a common reaction, and i had it with the sopranos -- didn't get into it till series three. but at least it was still running, and it was on tv so there wasn't that much initial effort.

i really liked the wire when i watched it, which was slightly before the media barrage, but all the hype has made me almost forget what i liked. part of what is good about it is extremely traditional: it is a well-told story.

btw you simply must watch mad men!

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FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 11:06 (seventeen years ago)

got six seasons of chiklis winging their way to me oh yeah

cozwn, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 11:09 (seventeen years ago)

Those Wire blogs are only getting about five comments each so I don't think they'll last.

I only noticed the other day how many of those episode by episode blogs they have--Generation Kill, American Idol etc.

Mylene Cockfarmer (Raw Patrick), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 11:18 (seventeen years ago)

Honestly I thought the stuff written yesterday by Mr Myerson was just as appalling as anything churned out by the wife. It's all self-indulgent hand-wringing and he was paid at least a grand to write it (basic Graun rate, but rises if you're a 'name' or you've got something they really want). I'm loath to call out the son as a wanker just because he's young and really didn't want to be put in the spotlight. He could have easily gotten an injunction to prevent the publication of the book and when he asked her what redress he had, Myerson lied and told him there was absolutely nothing he could do about it.

The problem with skunk is that unlike most cannabis, it's heavy in THC and less so in CBD, the anti-psychotic component of the drug that occurs with more balance in other varieties. Also it makes me laugh whenever middle-class people who wouldn't buy hydroponic/battery-farmed anything else get stuck into it.

We Need To Talk About Kevin Smith (suzy), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 11:21 (seventeen years ago)

yeah I like the weird fusion of "you have to be careful what you put in your body" and "I did grams of ketamine off a toilet" that exists in 2009.

off topic again to nrq, my brother lent me the first series of mad men on dvd but not watched any yet.

Local Garda, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 11:25 (seventeen years ago)

Mad Men is great! But not as good as The Wire!

Mylene Cockfarmer (Raw Patrick), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 11:27 (seventeen years ago)

The Guardian have a Mad Men blog too of course.

Mylene Cockfarmer (Raw Patrick), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 11:28 (seventeen years ago)

they shd only let sarah hughes write abt tv

cozwn, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 11:29 (seventeen years ago)

I'm loath to call out the son as a wanker

I'm not, but only because "wanker" is pretty much a job description for a 17 year old.

Twitter Shitter & The Purple Hernias (Upt0eleven), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 11:34 (seventeen years ago)

I use the word wanker pretty lightly.

Local Garda, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 11:37 (seventeen years ago)

eg "hi there grandad you old wanker you", "ah mum, you're some wanker all the same"

Local Garda, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 11:38 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah, but I really felt I had to go there. He probably is was/an absolute arsehole tbf, but what teenager isn't? Your his mother Myserson, take some fucking responsibility.

I actually think I find her most contemptible for convincing herself that she's providing a great public service by talking about skunk as the scourge of middle-class society. What the fuck kind of evidence does this woman have to demonstrate this other than her own familial fucking anecdotes?

When was the last time she did any writing or research beyond her own dining room ffs? She threw her sun under a bus for the sake of self-aggrandizing and Paxman was bang otm in that interview on Monday.

Twitter Shitter & The Purple Hernias (Upt0eleven), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 11:41 (seventeen years ago)

This "OMG THIS NEW SKUNK IS A MUCH STRONGER VARIATION TEH CANNABIS" really pisses me off.
Yes it is strong and a dangerous drug, but it's the 'NEW' part that bothers me.
As far as my experience with cannabis goes - skunk has been the norm on the street for over 8 years.

look at you: lookin' like a lobster (tpp), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 11:42 (seventeen years ago)

New is in relative terms: the people who discuss it as such probably smoked regular grass back in the day.

We Need To Talk About Kevin Smith (suzy), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 11:44 (seventeen years ago)

the press has been calling it new for a long-ish time, to be fair.

FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 11:46 (seventeen years ago)

paxman really otm, just watching it now

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/7934554.stm

Local Garda, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 11:46 (seventeen years ago)

WHAT I'D GIVE TO TRY SOME REGULAR GRASS

look at you: lookin' like a lobster (tpp), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 11:46 (seventeen years ago)

I wonder if Paxman will have her bounced from her Late Review gig.

We Need To Talk About Kevin Smith (suzy), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 11:47 (seventeen years ago)

people were regularly smoking "the kind" when i started college in 1992, which is like what, 17 fucking years ago now

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 11:48 (seventeen years ago)

skunk was fairly common when i smoked the reefer, more than eight years ago. or at least i was told it was skunk, whatever. but regular weed can turn you into a useless, boring, potentially paranoid and violent drugtard. i think the liberal press needed an excuse to go against the drugs when the teens of the 70s started having kids. OR SOMETHING.

FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 11:48 (seventeen years ago)

it's all just conjecture. I can't believe something so highly personal and lacking in substance is even given airtime. She is just waffling on and on about a specific family situation.

Local Garda, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 11:51 (seventeen years ago)

I've always found "regular" weed/hash more likely to turn me into a monged out lethargo than mind-bending killer skunk, but that's probably just my violent delusions again.

And yeah skunk was around when I was at school in the lol early 90s.

I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE UP TO (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 11:57 (seventeen years ago)

oh my that paxman interview is quite something

"there is an emergency out there called skunk"

cozwn, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 12:04 (seventeen years ago)

"we bought him clothes, we bought him sandwiches"

cozwn, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 12:09 (seventeen years ago)

"and he sold both for drugzz..."

Mark G, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 12:26 (seventeen years ago)

I'm disappointed that when she says "Oh there's lots of context you don't see" Paxman doesn't challenge her and say "well what a shit book then if you have to explain this on TV"

Local Garda, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 12:32 (seventeen years ago)

lol "skunk" good luck britain

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 12:38 (seventeen years ago)

This "OMG THIS NEW SKUNK IS A MUCH STRONGER VARIATION TEH CANNABIS" really pisses me off.
Yes it is strong and a dangerous drug, but it's the 'NEW' part that bothers me.
As far as my experience with cannabis goes - skunk has been the norm on the street for over 8 years.

wasn't there another article that was saying "upskirt" is some new phenomenon??

\∫Öζ/.... argh oh noes! (ken c), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 12:40 (seventeen years ago)

Skunk-smoking upskirters terrorising Julie Myerson.

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 12:43 (seventeen years ago)

Julie Myerson guilty of upskunking her son I think.

Dom Cry For Me, Passantino (NickB), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 12:45 (seventeen years ago)

the dossier was skunked up

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 13:13 (seventeen years ago)

is this a Good Story

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 14:01 (seventeen years ago)

I think you mean A Good Story.

Mylene Cockfarmer (Raw Patrick), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 14:03 (seventeen years ago)

No. In all seriousness, I don't think it is. I'd have thought that to the vast majority of potential readers, it's a whinging middle-class cock-end whinging about middle-class cock-endry. A Good Story has (arguably) universal appeal; it's something about which (arguably) everyone is meant to have an opinion. This? Seriously, does anyone give a flying one?

Atoms are "balls" (grimly fiendish), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 14:04 (seventeen years ago)

(I am interested in what MC thinks, though. After all, it's his classification system!)

Atoms are "balls" (grimly fiendish), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 14:05 (seventeen years ago)

i don't understand why anybody would want to read a book that, from reading all of those articles, seems to be about how crap they were at parenting, that is not about what lessons they had learnt out of it (as there seems to be none), but some kind of celebration(?) of wow what a brilliantly tragic tale we have to tell?

\∫Öζ/.... argh oh noes! (ken c), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 14:16 (seventeen years ago)

is this what middle class people do instead of going on jeremy kyle?

\∫Öζ/.... argh oh noes! (ken c), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 14:17 (seventeen years ago)

i might write a book about how crap i am at my job

\∫Öζ/.... argh oh noes! (ken c), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 14:19 (seventeen years ago)

Just to agree with the people saying that skunk is hardly new. I smoked skunk in 1996 when I was 12.

Blackout Crew are the Beatles of donk (jim), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 14:22 (seventeen years ago)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bd/Skunk_anansie-01.jpg

Skunk Anansie were an English rock band whose members included Skin (Deborah Dyer), Cass (Richard Lewis), Ace (Martin Kent) and Mark Richardson. The group formed in 1994 and disbanded in 2001. They were named after the West African folk tales of Anansie the spider-man[1], with “Skunk” added to “make the name nastier.”[2] They were often grouped as part of a Britrock movement, running alongside Britpop. The band in 2004, were named as one of the most-successful UK chart acts between 1952-2003 by Guinness Book of British Hit Singles & Albums, with a total of 141 weeks on both the singles and album charts ranking them at #491.[3] When the book first published this annual top 500 list in 2000, it only involved weeks spent on the singles chart until 2004's 17th edition, meaning the band's highest ranking has not been notified in any of the past editions. Their longest running release is 1996's Stoosh album with 55 weeks and a peak of #9.[3]

\∫Öζ/.... argh oh noes! (ken c), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 14:27 (seventeen years ago)

Raders are going to be disappointed she spends half the book banging on about her attempt to write the biography of a nineteenth century girl painter. (They are both lost children, do you see?)

woofwoofwoof, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 14:28 (seventeen years ago)

Readers, that is.

woofwoofwoof, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 14:28 (seventeen years ago)

Raders of the Lost Boy

Dom Cry For Me, Passantino (NickB), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 14:33 (seventeen years ago)

Or the Lost Child or whatever it is.

Dom Cry For Me, Passantino (NickB), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 14:35 (seventeen years ago)

im so confused about marijuana in the uk

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 14:35 (seventeen years ago)

Don't read anything to do with this Myerson stuff, then.

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 14:41 (seventeen years ago)

Stop smoking so much skunk, then.

\∫Öζ/.... argh oh noes! (ken c), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 14:44 (seventeen years ago)

otm

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 14:45 (seventeen years ago)

The families torn apart by teenage skunk epidemic

Bonus points for the Daily Mail hyperlink wording of "drugs-skunk-family' and bringing in the 'chief reporter', no less.

It is the end of a taboo: articulate, middle-class parents are speaking out about the nightmare of seeing their children spiral into drug abuse and, all too often, mental illness. Many blame themselves for staying silent, assuming that modern strains of cannabis were little different from the pot that baby boomers smoked at college. The reality is very different

The campaign to get the Myersons rehabilitated and back on the Clapham/Camden intelligensia dinner party circuit in well underway.

Bob Six, Sunday, 15 March 2009 10:05 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/mar/13/global-economy-capitalism

ok what the fuck

this exact article -- which is pretty disgusting head-in-the-sand free-market fundie nonsense anyway -- was in the telegraph already.

FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Monday, 16 March 2009 14:21 (seventeen years ago)


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