Oops, already discussed over in this other thread:
Rolling MENA 2014
― curmudgeon, Monday, 23 June 2014 15:28 (ten years ago) link
Why Obama and Clinton make no secrets of seeking out Kissinger for advice and photo ops. They're his children.
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/10/16/egypts-u-s-backed-military-regime-brutalizing-student-protestors/
― this horrible, rotten slog to rigor mortis (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 October 2014 14:32 (nine years ago) link
I'm with you re this one.
― curmudgeon, Friday, 17 October 2014 20:11 (nine years ago) link
we like giving lip service to democracy but what we really want more than anything else is stability and our economic interests secure. that trumps everything.
― Οὖτις, Friday, 17 October 2014 20:16 (nine years ago) link
In the world of realpolitik those have always trumped everything. And an oligarchy is more likely to align with our interests than would a democracy atm, because current U.S. government functions as an oligarchy more than a democracy.
― Aimless, Friday, 17 October 2014 21:01 (nine years ago) link
i think it's facile to say that an oligarchy will necessarily have the same or similar interests as another oligarchy. that would make geopolitics much simpler than it is.
― I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 17 October 2014 21:20 (nine years ago) link
also US foreign policy has never been subject to the sort of "democracy" that domestic politics have
but you'll get no argument from me re. our egypt policy being atrocious
― I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 17 October 2014 21:21 (nine years ago) link
Q: is "realpolitik" really just a 20th Century term for "the way empire has always functioned"?
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Friday, 17 October 2014 21:23 (nine years ago) link
we don't have an empire, i heard Bill Maher say so.
― this horrible, rotten slog to rigor mortis (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 October 2014 21:31 (nine years ago) link
this is the thread where we self-congratulatorily affirm the fact of an american empire to one another
― I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 17 October 2014 21:55 (nine years ago) link
http://www.feelnumb.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/album-cover-rage-against-the-machine-evil-empire.jpg
― Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Saturday, 18 October 2014 03:19 (nine years ago) link
woah lol huge soz
@sharifkouddousState Dept official in 2010 email from Egypt to Hillary Clinton about Mubarak government: "They love you here"
https://twitter.com/sharifkouddous/status/711883543601942528
― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Monday, 21 March 2016 14:52 (eight years ago) link
Ergodan below 50%
🔴#SONDAKİKA | Anadolu Ajansı'na göre Tayyip Erdoğan'ın oyu %50'nin altına düştü. (%49.99)— ibrahim Haskoloğlu (@haskologlu) May 14, 2023
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 14 May 2023 20:10 (one year ago) link
*Erdogan
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 14 May 2023 20:13 (one year ago) link