like the best argument against it is probably 'if this issue were to even enter the realm of tv politics the end result would be a world that is worse for poor black people and nobody would benefit more than republicans'
― iatee, Saturday, 21 June 2014 15:44 (nine years ago) link
Brutal truth
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 21 June 2014 15:48 (nine years ago) link
Yup
― some dude, Saturday, 21 June 2014 16:51 (nine years ago) link
I agree with all of that. The value of the article won't be in any near-term political or policy shifts. It will only be in some possible long-term influence on the intelligentsia. Like Piketty's book (I guess -- I have not read it), it puts some hard historical data behind arguments that tend to be waged on moral rather than quantitative grounds. You can't expect an Atlantic cover story to change the world. But I wouldn't underestimate its potential influence on how at least some people talk and think about the world.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 21 June 2014 20:26 (nine years ago) link
imagining the clusterfuck that would occur should eric holder (much less obama) put his full weight behind reparations. huge swaths of people in this country believe that african-americans are lazy good-for-nothings (oh, except for my handy man cedric, he's OK) and that they are already leeching off of the state at everyone else's expense. broach a program that aims to give them more of our tax dollars and people's heads will explode from rage.
i also imagine a smallish but vocal chunk of the black UMC coming out against this, just as they have come out against affirmative action, etc. imagine Bill Cosby giving a speech at the RNC.
i hate this country.
― I dunno. (amateurist), Saturday, 21 June 2014 22:57 (nine years ago) link
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/06/the-case-for-reparations-a-narrative-bibliography/372000/
― 龜, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 11:41 (nine years ago) link
well this guy likes comics huh
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 25 June 2014 01:08 (nine years ago) link
this dude tweets an awful lot for someone who's supposed to be speaking only french for the summer
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 25 June 2014 01:27 (nine years ago) link
haha yeah i was surprised by how much his tweets are about comic books
― some dude, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 01:47 (nine years ago) link
he used to write a lot abt comic books and video games, its better now that he doesnt so much, not that theres anything wrong with that
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 July 2014 21:18 (nine years ago) link
New piece http://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2014/08/acting-french/375743/
― 龜, Friday, 29 August 2014 13:08 (nine years ago) link
His comic book criticism is why I pay attention. I should care more about his other writing, but I don’t. I tried reading the reparations essay but I was bored and felt dumb so I never finished it. I feel terrible.
― Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 29 August 2014 14:08 (nine years ago) link
(Nonetheless, Middlebury Language Schools are amazing. I'll probably read his latest essay.)
― Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 29 August 2014 14:09 (nine years ago) link
reparations article worth sticking with and not at all hard to make sense of
― Adding ease. Adding wonder. Adding (contenderizer), Friday, 29 August 2014 14:17 (nine years ago) link
reparations article def easier than learning a language
― lag∞n, Friday, 29 August 2014 14:25 (nine years ago) link
Will have to read this long piece later. He did lots of music criticism pieces when he was a Washington City Paper staff writer back in the 90s.
― curmudgeon, Friday, 29 August 2014 14:53 (nine years ago) link
piers morgan, everybody
― goole, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 00:38 (nine years ago) link
https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/status/531964234410627072
― goole, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 00:39 (nine years ago) link
i liked this one https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/status/531938818933280768
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 00:41 (nine years ago) link
flamethrower 18pts on 7 shots
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 00:42 (nine years ago) link
a good thing the pelicans tv guys do is try to talk themselves into austin rivers any time he touches the ball
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 00:43 (nine years ago) link
ta-nehisi 13 pts, 12 boards at the half.
― moz.gov (Clay), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 00:45 (nine years ago) link
oops lol
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 00:46 (nine years ago) link
i was looking at the nba thread like where tf my posts go
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 00:47 (nine years ago) link
Any point asking what gross things Morgan wrote about or am I better off not knowing?
― Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 02:33 (nine years ago) link
in his opinion the n word is bad
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 02:35 (nine years ago) link
possible
tressie mc @tressiemcphd · 16m 16 minutes agoPiers is #literally trolling black twitter for profit. As in, he isn't even pretending he's real. You know like how Trump goads POTUS.
tressie mc @tressiemcphd · 16m 16 minutes agoOk, y'all to unpack: that fool deliberately wrote an article about THE racial slur; tagged black twitter power nodes; is hashtagging BT
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 02:37 (nine years ago) link
#literally
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 11 November 2014 03:39 (nine years ago) link
hey, if you want to keep track of people being literal on twitter, there's no better hashtag
― I dunno. (amateurist), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 10:04 (nine years ago) link
I spent parts of 2006 and 2007 following Bill Cosby around the country. He was then in the midst of giving a series of "call-outs" in which he upbraided the decline of morality in the black community. Our current organic black conservative moment largely springs from these efforts....
I observed several of these call-outs. Again, unlike typical black Republicans, Cosby spoke directly to black people. He did not go on Fox News to complain about the threat of the New Black Panther Party. He did not pen columns insisting the black family was better off under slavery. He was not speaking as a man sent to assure a group that racism did not exist, but as a man who sincerely believed that black people, through the ethic of "twice as good," could overcome. That is the core of respectability politics. Its appeal is broad in both black and white America, and everywhere Cosby went he was greeted with rapturous applause.
I published a reported essay in 2008, in this magazine, on these call-outs. In that essay, there is a brief and limp mention of the accusations against Cosby. Despite my opinions on Cosby suffusing the piece, there was no opinion offered on the rape accusations. This is not because I did not have an opinion. I felt at the time that I was taking on Cosby's moralizing and wanted to stand on those things that I could definitively prove. Lacking physical evidence, adjudicating rape accusations is a murky business for journalists. But believing Bill Cosby does not require you to take one person's word over another—it requires you take one person's word over 15 others.
At the time I wrote the piece, it was 13 peoples’ word—and I believed them. Put differently, I believed that Bill Cosby was a rapist.
http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2014/11/the-cosby-show/382891/?single_page=true
― things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 18:20 (nine years ago) link
Shelby Steele And Ta-Nehisi Coates Debate: Reparations Or Bootstraps?
I missed this debate on Sunday on ABC's This Week with George Stephanopolis show...
― curmudgeon, Monday, 23 February 2015 17:02 (nine years ago) link
Charles Pierce included an excerpt a couple hours ago.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 February 2015 17:03 (nine years ago) link
twitter feed was full of screencaps of coats giving steele side eye for a couple hours as is the current practice
― lag∞n, Monday, 23 February 2015 17:14 (nine years ago) link
http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a33278/what-are-the-gobshites-saying-these-days-2-23-15/
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 February 2015 17:15 (nine years ago) link
Steele is on Ny-Quil.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 February 2015 17:18 (nine years ago) link
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/04/the-myth-of-police-reform/390057/
Peel back the layers of most of the recent police shootings that have captured attention and you will find a broad societal problem that we have looked at, thrown our hands up, and said to the criminal-justice system, "You deal with this."
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 16 April 2015 20:22 (nine years ago) link
Was just reading the above piece last night, and his new one. Baltimore-raised Coates weighs in
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/04/nonviolence-as-compliance/391640/
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 28 April 2015 15:38 (nine years ago) link
that last paragraph
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 28 April 2015 16:05 (nine years ago) link
A friend of mine has pointed out that opponents of the protest are conflating "peaceful" and "calm" with non-violent resistance strategy, which miss-characterizes the full range of non-violent resistance. And that TNC is kind of ceding that ground and using the term "nonviolence" in the way his enemies use it, instead of pushing against their definition.
― Orson Wellies (in orbit), Tuesday, 28 April 2015 16:15 (nine years ago) link
ya good point
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 April 2015 16:17 (nine years ago) link
yeah i hadnt thought of it that way
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 28 April 2015 16:47 (nine years ago) link
She is a very smart friend. :)
― Orson Wellies (in orbit), Tuesday, 28 April 2015 16:49 (nine years ago) link
Whenever I saw cops in riot gear at the Occupy marches, the thing I most wanted was a stick. And to be able to run faster.
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 28 April 2015 16:51 (nine years ago) link
instead of pushing against their definition.
I see where you/your friend are coming from here, but to me this isn't so clear - "When nonviolence is preached as an attempt to evade the repercussions of police brutality" (emphasis added) to me reads as: here, in this case, we are not really talking about nonviolent resistance strategies. So he's calling out the conflation, not necessarily conceding it.
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 28 April 2015 16:59 (nine years ago) link
Race in America Forum at Johns Hopkinshttp://www.ustream.tv/recorded/61723764
― tsrobodo, Saturday, 2 May 2015 19:00 (nine years ago) link
he was on the Slate Political Gabfest for a long segment on Friday
― Is It Any Wonder I'm Not the (President Keyes), Saturday, 2 May 2015 22:52 (nine years ago) link
the hopkins forum was real good
atlantic put up a transcript
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/04/ta-nehisi-coates-johns-hopkins-baltimore/391904/
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 4 May 2015 17:26 (nine years ago) link
Just announced -- new book, Between the World and Me:
https://twitter.com/tanehisicoates/status/598256180570550272
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 12 May 2015 22:54 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/DEz687m.png
lmao
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:06 (nine years ago) link
Michiko Kakatuni's review of his book is pretty unfortunate: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/10/books/review-in-between-the-world-and-me-ta-nehisi-coates-delivers-a-desperate-dispatch-to-his-son.html
Sometimes Mr. Coates can sound as though he’s ignoring changes that have taken place over the decades, telling his son that “you and I” belong to “that ‘below’ ” in the racial hierarchy of American society: “That was true in 1776. It is true today.” He writes that “the plunder of black life was drilled into this country in its infancy and reinforced across its history, so that plunder has become an heirloom, an intelligence, a sentience, a default setting to which, likely to the end of our days, we must invariably return.”
Such assertions skate over the very real — and still dismally insufficient — progress that has been made. After all, America has twice elected a black president.
Uh huh.
― Immediate Follower (NA), Monday, 13 July 2015 14:49 (eight years ago) link