http://chronicle.com/article/The-Miseducation-of-America/147227/
― 龜, Thursday, 19 June 2014 23:59 (ten years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/22/magazine/its-official-the-boomerang-kids-wont-leave.html
― iatee, Friday, 20 June 2014 16:03 (ten years ago) link
More than that, they represent a much larger anxiety-provoking but also potentially thrilling economic evolution that is affecting all of us.
They must be firing editors.
― What Is It Like To Be A HOOS? (silby), Friday, 20 June 2014 16:20 (ten years ago) link
or hiring sixth graders to write thinkpieces
― What Is It Like To Be A HOOS? (silby), Friday, 20 June 2014 16:21 (ten years ago) link
feel like it's one step away from: "no, you can't find security, but the opposite of security is risk, and risk has higher rewards, so this is an OPPORTUNITY FOR HIGH REWARDS DO U SEE?!"
― Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Friday, 20 June 2014 16:25 (ten years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/22/technology/workplace-surveillance-sees-good-and-bad.html?smid=tw-share
will any of these employers pay me to curl up in a ball on my bed and claw my way up from catatonia because i can do that real efficiently
― j., Sunday, 22 June 2014 20:34 (ten years ago) link
i mean jesus
― j., Sunday, 22 June 2014 20:42 (ten years ago) link
The idiocy:http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/24/upshot/the-reality-of-student-debt-is-different-from-the-cliches.html
The response:http://www.theawl.com/2014/06/that-big-study-about-how-the-student-debt-nightmare-is-in-your-head-its-garbage
― Hier Komme Die Warum Jetzt (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 14:29 (ten years ago) link
The rebuttal seems sound, although my grasp of stats and sampling is weak at best. But I appreciated the point in the first article about students who don't graduate and are STILL carrying debt--because students who don't graduate often don't graduate for family and financial reasons, so there's a high correlation with ppl who won't be able to pay back the loans they took out, esp without that degree.
― Orson Wellies (in orbit), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 14:44 (ten years ago) link
Right, there is that and also some other good substantive points in the times article, but the way they slice it up and present it winds up as "student debt is way overblown and nbd"
― Hier Komme Die Warum Jetzt (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 14:45 (ten years ago) link
nice to see someone calling bullshit on that terrible brookings study
― dude (Lamp), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 14:45 (ten years ago) link
Love the headshots http://i.imgur.com/NpnxD7i.png
― 龜, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 14:53 (ten years ago) link
matthew chingos more like matthew chingados, pinche cabron
― it's not a fedora, it's a trill bae (m bison), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 15:50 (ten years ago) link
They look like smug fraternal twins doing a smug mind-meld.
― Hier Komme Die Warum Jetzt (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 16:57 (ten years ago) link
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/08/17/fashion/the-millennials-are-generation-nice.html
― Mordy, Sunday, 24 August 2014 23:21 (ten years ago) link
holy shit http://chronicle.com/blogs/letters/is-that-whining-adjunct-someone-we-want-teaching-our-young/
― everybody loves lana del raymond (s.clover), Thursday, 28 August 2014 03:42 (ten years ago) link
I can only say that I have had full-time employment with benefits both inside and outside working in academia for over 30 years. I made choices.
I started out in a completely different era and everything worked out for me, so all you whining children who are starting out in today's world must not know shit about life. QED.
― Aimless, Thursday, 28 August 2014 03:48 (ten years ago) link
As one of my friends might say, “Time to put on your big-girl panties!”
"As one of my friends might say, if I had friends"
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 28 August 2014 03:54 (ten years ago) link
Courses taught: Google Applications; Social Networking for Business, Office Supervision, Business Communications, MS Office applications 2010 (and earlier), Introduction to Management, Voice recognition, Office Orientation, Keyboarding, etc.
― iatee, Thursday, 28 August 2014 03:56 (ten years ago) link
(and earlier) <---- how you know she's a true expert in her field
― j., Thursday, 28 August 2014 04:01 (ten years ago) link
office orientation: shld u point yr desk THIS way or THIS WAY? an ethnomethodological approach
― j., Thursday, 28 August 2014 04:02 (ten years ago) link
She's written "definately" multiple times in the comments section
― een, Thursday, 28 August 2014 04:03 (ten years ago) link
http://morton.edu/OMT/
Today’s administrative professional handles a variety of duties and need skills in many facets of office procedures and technology including: Internet/Intranet communication, problem-solving, cloud computing, project management, Microsoft Office applications, mobile technology, social media, electronic record keeping, web conferencing, organization, and customer service.
― iatee, Thursday, 28 August 2014 04:06 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsT-_ITj8xE
― celfie tucker 48 (s.clover), Monday, 5 January 2015 17:03 (nine years ago) link
I was researching the for-profit college industry today at work, and it occurred to me that the Obama admin actually has done quite a lot of cracking down on the scammy operators in that field, and have genuinely wounded the industry, possibly mortally. Something genuinely good the admin has don.
― walid foster dulles (man alive), Saturday, 17 January 2015 03:09 (nine years ago) link
really? any good articles about that?
― Nhex, Saturday, 17 January 2015 04:27 (nine years ago) link
It wasn't something I found in one place but I found a lot of different things that added up to that picture for me.
― walid foster dulles (man alive), Saturday, 17 January 2015 04:29 (nine years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/31/business/international/in-europe-fake-jobs-can-have-real-benefits.html
i promise you
you must read this
― j., Friday, 29 May 2015 14:56 (nine years ago) link
Spooky.
How long till we finally admit that expecting there to be a job for everyone is ridiculous and just start giving people $40k a year or so for life by default?
― jennifer islam (silby), Friday, 29 May 2015 19:46 (nine years ago) link
there's always a semblance of an out provided by the existence of unfilled jobs and the insinuation that the people who aren't filling them are somehow above them, not trying, etc.
― j., Friday, 29 May 2015 20:19 (nine years ago) link
ts: unpaid internships at real companies v dole money working at a fake company
― ogmor, Friday, 29 May 2015 20:22 (nine years ago) link
http://chronicle.com/blogs/ticker/man-stabbed-in-face-during-argument-over-whether-college-is-worth-it/101003
Here’s one more reason to avoid the onerous debate over whether college is worth the cost: to keep from getting stabbed.Police say an argument Friday about the “worth and importance of a college education” resulted in one man slashing another in the face with a pocket knife. The Arlington, Va., news outlet ARLNow reports the victim was cut from the corner of the mouth to the ear after the other man became angry during the argument. The victim received 60 stitches at George Washington University Hospital.The investigation into the crime is continuing, the police say, and the suspect was described as a Hispanic man, 6 feet 3 inches tall, and weighing about 220 pounds.The crime report did not detail whether the suspect supported the value of a college education or thought it was a waste of money.
Police say an argument Friday about the “worth and importance of a college education” resulted in one man slashing another in the face with a pocket knife. The Arlington, Va., news outlet ARLNow reports the victim was cut from the corner of the mouth to the ear after the other man became angry during the argument. The victim received 60 stitches at George Washington University Hospital.
The investigation into the crime is continuing, the police say, and the suspect was described as a Hispanic man, 6 feet 3 inches tall, and weighing about 220 pounds.
The crime report did not detail whether the suspect supported the value of a college education or thought it was a waste of money.
― j., Monday, 22 June 2015 19:16 (nine years ago) link
with what i have gleaned from my expensive liberal arts education, i will surmise that the argument was about something more than that.
― goole, Monday, 22 June 2015 20:46 (nine years ago) link
http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2015/07/helicopter_parenting_is_increasingly_correlated_with_college_age_depression.html?wpsrc=fol_fb
One kid’s father threatened to divorce her mother if the daughter didn’t major in economics. It took this student seven years to finish instead of the usual four, and along the way the father micromanaged his daughter’s every move, including requiring her to study off campus at her uncle’s every weekend. At her father’s insistence, the daughter went to see one of her econ professors during office hours one weekday. She forgot to call her father to report on how that went, and when she returned to her dorm later that evening her uncle was in the dorm lobby looking visibly uncomfortable about having to “force” her to call her dad to update him. Later this student told me, “I pretty much had a panic attack from the lack of control in my life.” But an economics major she was indeed. And the parents got divorced anyway.
― j., Monday, 6 July 2015 20:07 (nine years ago) link
Yet more "oh my god your kids are in danger because you're DOING PARENTING WRONG." Kids are resilient and can handle a wide range of parenting styles. Parents should chill out about whether they're "helicopter parents" or not and they should certainly not freak out that they're dooming their kids to a life of depression because they're "overparenting."
I mean, you should also not threaten to get a divorce if your kid majors in the wrong thing, but that seems like kind of an outlier.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 6 July 2015 20:43 (nine years ago) link
One kid’s father threatened to divorce her mother if the daughter didn’t major in economics
what is the point of trying to make a point by citing crazy outliers like that?
― wizzz! (amateurist), Monday, 6 July 2015 20:59 (nine years ago) link
#slatepitch
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 6 July 2015 21:47 (nine years ago) link
http://fox13now.com/2015/05/30/son-killed-mother-in-argument-over-college-grades-sheriff-in-alabama-says/
quick, you've got 20 minutes to build a thinkpiece around this!
― wizzz! (amateurist), Monday, 6 July 2015 21:49 (nine years ago) link
"The student loan crisis: are 'baseball-bat kids' to blame?"
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 6 July 2015 21:54 (nine years ago) link
in with 19 minutes to spare
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/02/opinion/sunday/were-making-life-too-hard-for-millennials.html?smid=tw-nytimes&_r=0
― j., Sunday, 2 August 2015 14:55 (nine years ago) link
The most educated generation in history is on track to becoming less prosperous, at least financially, than its predecessors.
WHO COULD HAVE PREDICTED THIS
― playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Sunday, 2 August 2015 16:58 (nine years ago) link
right on track
― j., Sunday, 2 August 2015 17:08 (nine years ago) link
wait, who predicted it? previous generations were also the most educated in history at the time but were more prosperous than their predecessors
as always with these things there's a temptation to infer a structural permanent trend out of this, but there's obviously huge cyclical component. and not just the great recession, but like, it took a long time for the white-collar economy to adjust to the tech bust. boomers largely benefited from the boom and we suffered through the "correction"
― flopson, Sunday, 2 August 2015 17:15 (nine years ago) link
also it's interesting that alarm over this runs contrary to alarm about automation, at least in terms of what to do about it. if education is not salvation because young cohorts aren't seeing the value of their education increase apace or even decrease, we should educate less. but if robots are going to take away all manual jobs, we should educate more! what do you do?
― flopson, Sunday, 2 August 2015 17:17 (nine years ago) link
previous generations were also the most educated in history at the time but were more prosperous than their predecessors
i don't think the causality here is what they think it is
― playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Sunday, 2 August 2015 17:18 (nine years ago) link
?
― flopson, Sunday, 2 August 2015 17:41 (nine years ago) link
copy to quid ag thread?
― 2011’s flagrantly ceremonious rock-opera (Bananaman Begins), Sunday, 2 August 2015 17:46 (nine years ago) link
yeah sorry. like, to someone on the g.i. bill, returning home to a fully industrialized hegemon perched atop a planet of rubble, education isn't just a cause of their prosperity but a symptom. they are already prosperous as they sit in class. when we sit in class, we're dozens of thousands of dollars in debt and the gauge is spinning, which is supposed to be okay because "education" makes you prosperous. maybe prosperity makes you prosperous. the g.i. bill is maybe an unfair ideal so: public colleges have almost doubled in adjusted cost since 1965; private colleges much more than that. quite apart from the changing economy it seems bizarre to sell someone something for twice as much as it was sold to you and then talk about how surprising it is that they aren't making a profit.
― playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Sunday, 2 August 2015 17:46 (nine years ago) link
so no i didn't mean that the hermetic concept "more educated generation is less prosperous" is inherently obvious or predictable. (i don't think the reverse is either tho.) just that the other variables in this situation are not exactly obscured or arcane.
― playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Sunday, 2 August 2015 17:48 (nine years ago) link