2001: A Space Odyssey

I started watching 2010 the other night -- I don't mind it but god is there anything in the original that isn't a) driven into the ground and/or b) completely over-explained, sheesh

haha that movie is so bad

i feel bad for them re the space scenes.

A lot of '2010' is a huge expo-dump. The only way it could avoid feeling clunky is for people who haven't seen '2001'. Having said that, I like '2010' a lot.

it's much more a sequel to clarke's '2001' than it is kubrick's

I can't imagine anything more awesome than seeing this as a kid, seriously anyone itt who has that memory congratulations you win at life.

:D

So happy to hear about your first 2001 screening! I would give anything to see it again for the first time!

and the bluray is legit gorgeous

I didn't see it as a kid, but I did see it (as I've probably already mentioned upthread and am too lazy to check) several years ago in an AMAZING 70mm print at the AFI Silver Theater in Maryland. It was absolutely mind-blowing.

I didn't even know about the whole 'Daisy' song being a real thing (ie Bell labs)

OK, I don't think I know what this means. Wha?

I'm suuuuuuuuuuper jealous of Mr Veg who first saw it in a big cinerama dome when he was 10

I can't imagine anything more awesome than seeing this as a kid, seriously anyone itt who has that memory congratulations you win at life.

― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, June 13, 2014 11:45 AM (9 hours ago)

me too! saw the theatrical re-release w/ my stepdad in 1980, when i was 13. completely mind bowling. loved the "white room" section towards the end best of all, has long stayed in my mind as one of the most breathtaking sequences i've ever seen onscreen. remember sitting in the theater afterwards, after the credits had finished with the music still playing. wasn't sure we were supposed to leave or what. my stepdad explained that the extra music was there so people on drugs could re-orient themselves.

xpost: (from Wiki)

In 1961 an IBM 704 became the first computer to sing, in a demonstration of Bell Labs' newly invented speech synthesis – and the song was "Daisy Bell".[3] Vocals were programmed by John Kelly and Carol Lochbaum and the accompaniment was programmed by Max Mathews. In a famous scene in the 1968 science fiction film 2001: A Space Odyssey, the intelligent HAL 9000 computer during its deactivation loses its mind and degenerates to singing "Daisy Bell", which was one of the first things HAL learned when it was originally programmed. The author of the story, Arthur C. Clarke, had seen the 1961 demo.[4]

http://youtu.be/41U78QP8nBk

neat, huh?

thx VG, def hadn't heard that.

:D

I liked this when I saw it - someone has reverse engineered the images used for the slitscan sequence

http://seriss.com/people/erco/2001/

Fun fact: in the French dubbed version, HAL sings Au clair de la lune. Makes it a whole different movie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gdi5PqMm4jQ

2001 Space Odyssey. Dave turn off HAL

In a nice coincidence, my wife gave me a copy of the Taschen SK Archives for Father's Day this morning.

wait, is father's day on a saturday this year or something??

No, they gave me presents and fixed breakfast and all that a day early because my daughter has to work tomorrow morning.

I didn't see it as a kid, but I did see it (as I've probably already mentioned upthread and am too lazy to check) several years ago in an AMAZING 70mm print at the AFI Silver Theater in Maryland. It was absolutely mind-blowing.

Ha. I caught a 70mm screening at that AFI a few years ago too.

An unfortunate thing about 2001 is that it seems to devalue with each viewing. Realized this a few years ago when I saw it maybe four times in a span of a few months. It just doesn't have the return value as other favorites.

Seeing this as a teenager was monumental though. I could probably credit that moment as what really got me interested in film.

Yeah, I've only watched 2001 maybe 2 or 3 times ever. It's not a movie that you want to go back to on an annual basis.

My favourite thing about this movie (along with the soundtrack, the ending, the moon sequence... pretty much everything except the monkeys, and even the monkey are great) my favourite thing is the unique style of editing, super rhythmic. It feels like every shot is too long or too short, the editing is obtrusive, like its own character. It never feels zany like a Godard film, it just feels weirdly musical or something.

otm

re: re-watchability, I agree. but it's certainly not a fault of the film. there's something like a conscious lack of depth or nuance (in a very good way). it's like the Iliad or something mythological.

?? do you mean everyone's lack of affect and frank's stepford parents?

The thing I like best about 2001 is the way it sounds, there's a softness and cushioned timbre in the dialogue tracks especially in the way HAL's voice is treated, that I love. It sounds more complicated than just a slightly reduced bandwidth/high end but I can't describe what it is, the sound of Douglas Rain's voice is one of my favourite things.

I realized I could make a bunch of money if I developed an app for iPhone users that would make Siri sound like HAL. And no matter what your name is, it would call you Dave.

yes, all of the 21st-century ppl are banal; talk about prophecy.

i go back to this on an annual basis more or less and it gets better all the time so

that's OK, Eric goes back to Showgirls on a monthly basis.

one thing i noticed is that dave seems to have more personality than the other humans -- he sketches, gets pissed off at HAL, gets emotional when he has to shut off HAL, etc. it's pretty subtle, but i think it's there.

I watch nothing on a monthly basis.

Except episodes of The Golden Girls, which I watch on a nightly basis.

movie is so much weirder than the book

well novel is just Clarke, adapting the script he and Kubrick wrote from Clarke's little short story. He was gonna streamline it and make it less opaque.

p much agree w/ tarantino that digital cinema is 'watching tv in public', but still interested in seeing the new warner bros digital print mentioned here (no mention, of course, of a restoration of the missing footage)

http://www.bfi.org.uk/news-opinion/news-bfi/announcements/bfi-rerelease-stanley-kubricks-2001

peter kramer's 2001 bfi monograph is pretty good, btw, esp on the film's nuclear paranoia.

thing i can never get over abt 2001's production history is that until v. late in the day, the film came with a voiceover that explained a lot of what was going on

You're gonna kill me if you say it was Peter Sellers doing the v/o.

Michael Bentine in fully 'Potty Time' mode?

there is no missing footage, as SK didn't want it in the film. (It's true that the fact that it premiered w/ 20 mins that he cut immediately makes that stuff a bit of a Grail, but I really am not curious to ever see it, and it looks like he definitively disposed of it.)

Acc to wikipedia:

In December 2010, Douglas Trumbull announced that Warner Brothers had located seventeen minutes of lost footage, "perfectly preserved", in a Kansas salt mine vault. A Warner Brothers press release asserts definitively that this material is from the postpremiere cuts, which Kubrick has stated totaled nineteen minutes. No immediate plans have been announced for the footage.

I wld be very curious to see it, ditto the lost ending of The Shining

i've stumbled across the claim a few places that the beatles used some outtakes from 2001 for a sequence in the film version of magical mystery tour, but it's never really explained how on earth the beatles would have gotten their hands on outtakes from 2001.

kubrick gave them the footage after he pulled out of filming their version of lord of the rings, having shot prepremiere 'missing footage' of the fabs in full hobbit costume that allegedly now resides in landfill under the M8

ditto the lost ending of The Shining

That would be the "lost" penultimate scene. I saw it 34 years ago, you're not missing much.

where would the blue powdered food scene fit in if he's eating full room service fare by the end?

> the lost ending of The Shining

didn't they tack a bit of this onto the end of bladerunner?

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/ist/?next=/smart-news/ridley-scott-reused-footage-from-the-shining-at-the-end-of-blade-runner-2005687/

oh, that was outtakes of the initial sequence of the shining, not the end.

you can read the script pages of the 'lost' shining scene here. i think SK was right to take it out, doesn't add much at all.

http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/lost-ending-to-stanley-kubricks-the-shining-revealed-20130124