I just mentioned this to my own mother and she's pretty LOL WTF about the whole thing too, says that on Newsnight JM kept on absolving herself by claiming to have never once mentioned him by name. And now she's handed me yesterday's Times where Libby Purves has proffered a hearty response.
― they probably drink corporate water (country matters), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 12:51 (seventeen years ago)
I love how this kid's increasing rebelliousness and perversity is entirely blamed on weed.
No, she told us, the cannabis isn't a symptom, it's the cause. That's when we put it together.
"That's when we finally had something outside ourselves to blame all this poor communication on."
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 12:53 (seventeen years ago)
"The problem, I suspect, was that Julie Myerson is a compulsive writer and that once lovely phrases begin forming in her head her self-control evaporates. Perhaps it is her equivalent of a really good spliff."
― they probably drink corporate water (country matters), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 12:56 (seventeen years ago)
To be fair I do know of people for whom skunk has caused enormous problems. I also know people who smoke it pretty much every day and lead perfectly normal lives.
― chap, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 12:56 (seventeen years ago)
"The problem, I suspect, was that Julie Myerson is a compulsive writer"
Can we do something to help her to overcome this embarassing compulsion?
― Free the Northampton 1 (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 12:59 (seventeen years ago)
buy enough of her books that she never needs to write again
― they probably drink corporate water (country matters), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 13:00 (seventeen years ago)
I also know people who smoke it pretty much every day and lead perfectly normal lives.
If frightening hapless codgers and mugging 10 year olds for their mobiles phones is normal, yes
― Free the Northampton 1 (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 13:01 (seventeen years ago)
I thought it was 10 year olds who mugged people
but I agree with you, I hate muggers.
I don't like Julie M either and it sounds like her narcissism and carelessness have finally landed her like a beached shark.
― the pinefox, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 13:09 (seventeen years ago)
"i actually know someone who likes the smell of skunk."http://marykcarman.blogspot.com/2008/04/hop-on-mexican-train.html
― the pinefox, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 13:10 (seventeen years ago)
can someone else post nice pictures of skunks? Pictures don't always work for me.
― the pinefox, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 13:11 (seventeen years ago)
A bleached shark, judging by her hair colour in that old photo
― Free the Northampton 1 (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 13:11 (seventeen years ago)
the generalising abt drugs on this thread - abt their effects, the stupidity or o/wise of ppl who take them, their availability in se london etc - seems as bad as a bad guardian writer (eg toynbee)
― Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 13:12 (seventeen years ago)
http://www.heroicfineart.com/catalog/images/ClassicPepe%5B1%5D
― Free the Northampton 1 (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 13:13 (seventeen years ago)
from her introduction to the book, explaining to her son why she wrote it: "Don't worry, it's not so much about you - or at least it is - but it's more about me really." lol self-awareness.
― joe, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 14:28 (seventeen years ago)
More interesting if it had been about the cat
― Free the Northampton 1 (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 14:30 (seventeen years ago)
... or is that the sequel?
The cat gets a paint stripe down back. Pepe le Pew falls in love w/it.
― Mylene Cockfarmer (Raw Patrick), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 14:33 (seventeen years ago)
Myerson family's ongoing struggle with skunk etc
― Free the Northampton 1 (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 14:35 (seventeen years ago)
as a side point.. is kicking your druggy kid onto the street to fend for himself really supposed to be the thing to do and the way to stop him falling into further drugs/crimes/south londonness??
― \∫Öζ/.... argh oh noes! (ken c), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 15:52 (seventeen years ago)
seems counter intuitive to me
― \∫Öζ/.... argh oh noes! (ken c), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 15:54 (seventeen years ago)
oh wait i see that's the whole point of the book?
― \∫Öζ/.... argh oh noes! (ken c), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 16:05 (seventeen years ago)
And it gets worse: Family section Guardian editors have just outed Myerson as author of two-year Living With Teenagers column. Which was written anonymously until the kids cottoned on a year or so ago. Just how much money has she made over her kids'...exploits?
― We Need To Talk About Kevin Smith (suzy), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:49 (seventeen years ago)
Family section Guardian editors have just outed Myerson as author of two-year Living With Teenagers column
Ho, wow, that makes sense. God, to finally have a focal point for the loathing that column inspired in me is quite bizarre.
Seriously, though, this woman is an unmitigated fucking cock and I intend to spend the rest of my life ignoring her, because she's too absurd to even consider taking seriously.
― Atoms are "balls" (grimly fiendish), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 21:25 (seventeen years ago)
That's pretty much true.
Surprised anyone has ever read anything in Guardian Family section. I don't have a Family, but don't have time to read it. Does anyone with a Family have time to read it? Then again I don't really like Families.
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 00:41 (seventeen years ago)
you are v. strange.
― Blackout Crew are the Beatles of donk (jim), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 00:42 (seventeen years ago)
On Myerson, I was surprised but impressed that the Chief Executive of the Royal Society of Arts, former No. 10 head of policy Matthew Taylor, took time out in his latest blog entry to comment:
(by the way, has anyone yet written the inevitable Goody-Myerson comparison: on the one hand the ignorant untalented, lumpen Goody who is enduring media intrusion in her dying hours in order to provide financial security for her children, on the other, the fragrant, highly intelligent, middle-class Myerson who seems to be encouraging media intrusion into her family in order that she can sell more books, sorry that should read ‘expose the scourge of skunk’).
in an unexpected aside from his thinking on Public Service Reform...
― Bob Six, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 07:33 (seventeen years ago)
Just what does 'fragrant' mean in this context?
― We Need To Talk About Kevin Smith (suzy), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 08:50 (seventeen years ago)
Middle class + also hott.
― Lord Byron Lived Here, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 09:13 (seventeen years ago)
locus classicus being 'the fragrant mary archer'
― FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 09:17 (seventeen years ago)
lumpen?
― cozwn, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 09:31 (seventeen years ago)
as in lumpen-proletariat?
― horses that are on fire (c sharp major), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 09:33 (seventeen years ago)
I thought it was a cancer ref
― cozwn, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 09:37 (seventeen years ago)
next instalmenthttp://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2009/mar/10/family-julie-myerson
― cozwn, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 10:03 (seventeen years ago)
Since the identity of the children in Living With Teenagers is now known, we have removed the columns from the Guardian website to protect their privacy.
― Mylene Cockfarmer (Raw Patrick), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 10:12 (seventeen years ago)
someone was probably canny enough to archive them yesterday when this was dropping
― cozwn, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 10:15 (seventeen years ago)
This blog post is OTMFM:
http://potlatch.typepad.com/weblog/2009/03/julie-myerson-vs-hannah-arendt.html
― zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 10:35 (seventeen years ago)
"She's the literary equivalent of a flasher at a cricket match, and she deserves to get rugby tackled by a steward then evicted."
V good.
― Dorian (Dorianlynskey), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 10:38 (seventeen years ago)
Hope that happens IRL.
― zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 10:40 (seventeen years ago)
Must stop abbreviating!
i have read a few things about this but am not getting how it is different from other misery-memoir situations. is it that she's saying her son is an abusive bastard, rather than, as is more usual, her father? idk, people writing about their fucked-up family is not a new thing.
― FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 10:41 (seventeen years ago)
they usually wait until the father is dead, plus parents are reckoned to have more responsibility for their kids than vice versa. maybe unfair, but there it is.
― joe, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 10:43 (seventeen years ago)
plus schadenfreude
― cozwn, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 10:44 (seventeen years ago)
i know someone who is writing a misery memoir, parents very much alive, and it is causing grief in her fam. unsure of how her sons -- whom she abandoned at one point -- feel. you gotta pay the rent i guess.
― FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 10:46 (seventeen years ago)
article was such a joke. half the stuff is like they're saying although there's no evidence to prove this, I heard from many friends they're sons are a holy shambles with skunk too.
kid is obviously just a little wanker and there are some family problems or bad communication or something. skunk is not a big enough drug to blame for that, and even if it was, the utter rarity of this kid's situation suggests unusual home/family factors created it.
― Local Garda, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 10:50 (seventeen years ago)
*their sons of course
Completely off-topic I know, but I noticed they have started running those execrable Wire blogs on the Guardian AGAIN. I am as big a fan of the show as anyone, but they are flogging it to death now. The tendency of the "bloggers" to refer to each other as "hoppies" and talk about episode "re-ups" etc is incredibly aggravating.
Anyway please continue laying the boot into this horrendous Myerson person.
― ears are wounds, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 10:57 (seventeen years ago)
100% otm, wish they would s t f up. no idea what audience they serve. if you watch the show, you don't need someone writing a blog basically summarizing it. if you don't watch the show, despite the embarrassing degree of encouragement laid on by the graun, you will need this service performed even less.
― FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 11:00 (seventeen years ago)
the amount of times I hear "you have to watch the wire" makes me not want to watch it. how can so many people like something without ever being able to make it seem interesting?
― Local Garda, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 11:01 (seventeen years ago)
linehan, sayle, brooker, ughhhhh
― cozwn, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 11:03 (seventeen years ago)
it's a common reaction, and i had it with the sopranos -- didn't get into it till series three. but at least it was still running, and it was on tv so there wasn't that much initial effort.
i really liked the wire when i watched it, which was slightly before the media barrage, but all the hype has made me almost forget what i liked. part of what is good about it is extremely traditional: it is a well-told story.
btw you simply must watch mad men!
xpost
― FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 11:06 (seventeen years ago)