i like that this series makes room in its cast for the two least famous members of the main foursome from 'mean streets'. though proval has a huge role as opposed to richard romanus' minor appearances.
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Saturday, 7 June 2014 16:37 (ten years ago) link
i need to rewatch this ASAP. my wife has only seen a few episodes here and there, and the last half of season 6. i wonder if i'd like it more, maybe the relatively dead episodes that pop up in the middle of the series (season 3 has a few iirc?) wouldn't bother me as much.
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Saturday, 7 June 2014 16:39 (ten years ago) link
I figure Morbz would at least appreciate kindred spirit nancy marchand
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 7 June 2014 16:41 (ten years ago) link
you strike me as more of a depressed panicky old lady
― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 7 June 2014 17:08 (ten years ago) link
I am watching this for the first time. Is one of the kids that chases Tony in the flashback scene at the fair the same actor who would go on to play Wallace from the Wire? I liked the Mehlfi family therapist, then realized that he also had a bit part in season 4 of The Wire.
― sarahell, Saturday, 7 June 2014 20:46 (ten years ago) link
yes
― Number None, Saturday, 7 June 2014 20:48 (ten years ago) link
Bodie is in the second episode
― Number None, Saturday, 7 June 2014 20:49 (ten years ago) link
i pretty much know all the final-season resolutions and think it's kind of YV-hilarious that they didnt take care of Christopher in the fourth episode of the first year.
― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 8 June 2014 02:21 (ten years ago) link
TV-hilarious that is
― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 8 June 2014 02:22 (ten years ago) link
wtf r u even talking abt man get ahold of yrself
― lag∞n, Sunday, 8 June 2014 02:29 (ten years ago) link
Chrissie's character arc is so great and sad
― Οὖτις, Sunday, 8 June 2014 02:38 (ten years ago) link
spoilers!
― sufi john paxson (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 8 June 2014 03:00 (ten years ago) link
that's like doing spoilers for Psycho at this point
― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 8 June 2014 03:18 (ten years ago) link
lol I know. It truly was a spoiler, which is amazing, but I'm not actually mad.
― sufi john paxson (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 8 June 2014 03:30 (ten years ago) link
I am almost through season 5. Started 2 or 3 weeks ago.
― sufi john paxson (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 8 June 2014 03:31 (ten years ago) link
Season 5 has been a drag. Just had a good dream episode though.
― sufi john paxson (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 8 June 2014 03:32 (ten years ago) link
I feel like this will never match season 2 level good again
― sufi john paxson (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 8 June 2014 03:34 (ten years ago) link
haha i love season 2 but alot of ppl were kinda disappointed by it at the time. richie aprile definitely my fave tony antagonist though.
― balls, Sunday, 8 June 2014 03:54 (ten years ago) link
"I'm OLD SCHOOL, Janice!"
― Neanderthal, Sunday, 8 June 2014 04:31 (ten years ago) link
Richie vs tony was great!
― sufi john paxson (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 8 June 2014 04:57 (ten years ago) link
I look fwd to the deepening of Christopher's character then, as you can't have tragedy centered on pure vermin.
I can give Chase a pass for making Tony a WC Fields fan, but "I screened The Bank Dick last night"? Tony Sotosyn!
The ellipses are crafty in some of the episodes, like you don't know what made Livia's Jamaican maid stomp out -- well you do, but you don't hear it. (Also savvy bcz even tho Ma is clearly a gorgon, the direct evidence is elided in this case.) Also you don't see the Hasidic guy whose father-in-law wants him zotzed beg for his testicles in the basement of the meat store.
― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Monday, 9 June 2014 17:35 (ten years ago) link
"Irregular Around The Margins" (Season 5) is my favorite episode of any. One storyline, no subplots, who knows if Chrissy will get out alive.
― did click through tho on the money (Eazy), Monday, 9 June 2014 17:43 (ten years ago) link
yeah, season 5 became good in the end. That was a good ep. Everyone seemed to be off doing their own thing for the beginning and middle though.
― sufi john paxson (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 9 June 2014 17:48 (ten years ago) link
all of the abuse was just tough to sit through. The cover art kinda says it all.
― sufi john paxson (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 9 June 2014 17:50 (ten years ago) link
they're all vermin to varying degrees but aspects of his character come to the fore that make him more sympathetic, esp when set in contrast with some of the others
― Οὖτις, Monday, 9 June 2014 17:53 (ten years ago) link
yeah, he's not just a ziggy
― sufi john paxson (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 9 June 2014 17:55 (ten years ago) link
he is ziggy for maybe all of season 1 though. but i guess he can back it up better than ziggy.
― sufi john paxson (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 9 June 2014 17:56 (ten years ago) link
Oh, and season 5 has that great last scene of Tony walking out of Janice's house and down the street to "I'm Not Like Everybody Else."
― did click through tho on the money (Eazy), Monday, 9 June 2014 17:59 (ten years ago) link
not sure if Camille Paglia's critical thoughts have been linked on these threads. in due time.
― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Monday, 9 June 2014 18:00 (ten years ago) link
xpost Oh, and season five has f-in "In Camelot" which Morbs should skip to if he ends up considering quitting the show for good.
― did click through tho on the money (Eazy), Monday, 9 June 2014 18:01 (ten years ago) link
camille paglia is never necessary
― Οὖτις, Monday, 9 June 2014 18:01 (ten years ago) link
very little is necessary
i chuckled when i saw the final count on this series was 27 actors in common w/ Goodfellas.
― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Monday, 9 June 2014 18:03 (ten years ago) link
it's weird that Chase's movie was so hated around here when y'all are crazy for the needledrops on the show
― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Monday, 9 June 2014 18:04 (ten years ago) link
needledrops are a little less obvious/60s cliche here, given that the show is not set in the 60s. altho I liked that movie fine.
― Οὖτις, Monday, 9 June 2014 18:05 (ten years ago) link
this show does have some of my all-time music placement moments though - Dirty Work, Gotta Serve Somebody, Moonlight Mile
― Οὖτις, Monday, 9 June 2014 18:06 (ten years ago) link
i miss ralph and janice
― sufi john paxson (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 9 June 2014 18:08 (ten years ago) link
that reminds me, how could I forget Janice's "Mother and Child Reunion" moment
god this show
― Οὖτις, Monday, 9 June 2014 18:26 (ten years ago) link
my two fave musical moments are "Oh Girl" and "Glad Tidings"
― Number None, Monday, 9 June 2014 18:51 (ten years ago) link
Fred Neil's "Dolphins" w/Christopher a fave of mine.
― nickn, Monday, 9 June 2014 19:01 (ten years ago) link
the two that i still think about sometimes:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmd-RJUO_RYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBcbc8eWz6U
― slam dunk, Tuesday, 10 June 2014 00:17 (ten years ago) link
also-christopher was a huge fuckup and junkie and liability and obviously should have been killed in season one. he wasn't because tony has a sentimental streak and he saw chris as his surrogate son. this narrative tension drove a large part of the show! like why did fredo last so long, etc. family and Family get all intertwined..it's a pretty common trope in crime fiction.
― slam dunk, Tuesday, 10 June 2014 00:24 (ten years ago) link
"World Destruction" much too hip for the milieu
I'm kinda glad Chase didn't have the power to pop Plastic Bertrand into The Rockford Files.
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 03:21 (ten years ago) link
'world destruction' is too hip, so is 'evidently chickentown'. using them is powerful to me because it feels like the narrative zooms out for a bit, it's like a little aside from the palm of god/the author. i totally get that it could take people out of the narrative though. it's a risk.
― slam dunk, Tuesday, 10 June 2014 03:36 (ten years ago) link
That's an interesting take, connecting it with that Burroughs-y voiceover.
― did click through tho on the money (Eazy), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 03:38 (ten years ago) link
music choices in the soprano are tops, and the non-diegetic music is allowed to be whatever chase wants it to be.
― socki (s1ocki), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 08:55 (ten years ago) link
unless you are ridiculously literal-minded about wanting film music to just set the scene and nothing else, in which case, go watch forrest gump.
― socki (s1ocki), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 08:56 (ten years ago) link
never have and I'd like you to watch this fucking chainsaw
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 09:19 (ten years ago) link
this fucking chainsaw is much too hip for the milieu
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 10 June 2014 11:31 (ten years ago) link
The Sopranos is similar to Jesus Christ as the most objectionable thing about em are the fans
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 13:30 (ten years ago) link
u jelly?
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 10 June 2014 13:31 (ten years ago) link