Buying A House: C or D?

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Currently own a house, suddenly have been presented with a possible new, bigger, nicer house of exactly the sort we've been thinking about. On paper, if we can sell our current house, this should be seamless but selling a house stresses me out more than buying.

joygoat, Friday, 30 May 2014 22:33 (twelve years ago)

The seamlessness aspect seems like the key difficulty

lauded at conferences of deluded psychopaths (Sparkle Motion), Saturday, 31 May 2014 05:37 (twelve years ago)

The course was actually pretty informative and I'm glad I went. Next stop, lender for pre-approval. Now I just have to remember where I put my old tax returns and W-2 forms when I moved last time.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 31 May 2014 23:41 (twelve years ago)

Anyone in the UK got experience objecting to planning applications?
Just found out our next door neighbours are planning on building two houses on their land that will overlook the bottom of our garden and into the ground floor of our house. Pretty upset as we chose this place specifically to raise a family and have a quiet garden. Not to mention any building work will completely screw up looking after a newborn at home all day every day.

It's a kick in the teeth as we are in the process of selling some land to another neighbour on a different street and have spent a lot of time ensuring they can't build on it any higher that what's already there.

kinder, Thursday, 5 June 2014 18:16 (twelve years ago)

Pre-approval level: unlocked!

I didn't get pre-approved for as much as I was hoping (though it's still for more than I'd ideally like to spend). It's just that the lower number hurt my feelings. ha

Now I need to team up with an agent. Psyched, y'all!

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 12 June 2014 15:22 (twelve years ago)

good luck!

polyamanita (sleeve), Thursday, 12 June 2014 15:42 (twelve years ago)

Going out with an agent (finally!) on Thursday to look at a few. I've already seen ones I like go under contract and it feels like losing a game. If the one I'm most interested in at this point goes under contract with someone else today or tomorrow, I'll flip the board and run out of the room.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 20:06 (twelve years ago)

Saw four on Thursday, crossed three of them off immediately. The fourth one is this cool but kind of quirky little cottage that was totally updated inside just this past February.

http://i.imgur.com/jYKWNh3.jpg

I'm like 95% certain I could very happily live in this house for at least five years, but how do you know when it's the one? The available inventory in Atlanta in my pricepoint is really small right now as opposed to two years or even a year ago, especially for homes that need little or no updating. I'd just hate to go under contract with one and then something I'm 100% certain about pop onto the market a week later. No wonder there are entire cable tv networks dedicated to this shit.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 20 June 2014 05:57 (twelve years ago)

Sorry for all the handholding posts I'm making. I'm just really psyched and anxious and a little freaked out by doing the most adult thing I've ever done. It takes an ilx village to raise me.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 20 June 2014 06:42 (twelve years ago)

There's never THE one house, there's just what feels good for now and then you move in and slowly realize what you wish was different and try to make that happen next time around.

We've lived in our current place for seven years now and are in the despite not planning on buying another right now we found one that fits our wants and needs better and therefore are suddenly in the process of buying it. For some reason the bank is letting us the second house without selling the current one, despite the fact that on paper I have no income right now and won't until I start a new job in August. We found a renter for our current one as houses here sell much better in the spring but they don't care about that either which makes it feel even crazier cause it's not like we're loaded or anything.

joygoat, Friday, 20 June 2014 07:04 (twelve years ago)

That is SUPER CUTE, jf

just1n3, Friday, 20 June 2014 07:14 (twelve years ago)

yeah that's a crazy style of house I don't think I've ever seen before but it looks rad

joygoat, Friday, 20 June 2014 07:26 (twelve years ago)

Awwww it's a faux-Tudor with strange trim, and it's adorbsable!

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Friday, 20 June 2014 09:52 (twelve years ago)

Ours have both been 'we just knew' but it's pretty rare (and we were super picky about what we wanted). Both times we put in half-hearted offers elsewhere first. BUT I know this is fairly rare and most people just know when it feels ok! We certainly learned a lot from our first place so it's not like that feeling actually tells you useful practical facts...

kinder, Friday, 20 June 2014 11:46 (twelve years ago)

After you picked it, just stop looking and ignore everything else. It will always be the one then.

Jeff, Friday, 20 June 2014 11:49 (twelve years ago)

Lol we've been in ours 18 months and my husband still looks at new listings every day. hems just nosy though. Nothing has even suggested we'd be happier elsewhere... But it is a dumb thing to do!

kinder, Friday, 20 June 2014 11:58 (twelve years ago)

Americans have a strange perception of 'Tudor'. But that looks cool.

And aye, there is no "this is the one" type lightning bolt; just an "I can live here" realisation.

i reject your shiny expensive consumerist stereo system (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 20 June 2014 12:53 (twelve years ago)

just an "I can live here" realisation

I definitely feel that way.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 20 June 2014 13:52 (twelve years ago)

There are a huge number of Tudor Revival starter homes around the U.S. The sharply pitched roof is the giveaway, usually echoed by another steep roofline behind and to one side and a faux-"rough hewn" aesthetic, often with mismatched stones and bricks. Jf's house looks weird because it's a local variation and the trim has been painted white, which is thoroughly wrong for the style. But it's cute! The river rock chimney with the two full-sized windows must make a nice view from inside.

http://www.rigov.org/images/pages/N584/14th_ST_3918.jpg

http://www.robsmith.biz/wp-content/plugins/rss-poster/cache/cac1f_Chicago-IL-4245d8-e1395104396382.jpg

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Friday, 20 June 2014 13:58 (twelve years ago)

Actually what's notable about that 2nd pic I posted is that you have basically the three American twentieth-century suburban home styles in a row: One probaby 1940s with those long blonde bricks and geometric windows, the Tudor Revivan, and on the other side, a brick Craftsman bungalow, by the looks of it. I just love American vernacular architecture.

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Friday, 20 June 2014 14:01 (twelve years ago)

Yeah, I'm not sure yet what I'd do with the trim on that house, but I don't want to leave it white.

The one in io's second photo with that bay window is sweeeeeet.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 20 June 2014 14:05 (twelve years ago)

Also, I'd want to revert the screened in porch to an open-air porch, but it would take some doing (in addition to being screwed into the brick arches, they're secured in place with foam adhesive).

Johnny Fever, Friday, 20 June 2014 14:06 (twelve years ago)

It should be dark brown, basically. You could maybe look into a more adventurous color scheme with a dark red/burgundy or something, but the trim and gutters should be darker than the brick, ideally.

Is that a screened porch on the front? That seems like a nice feature!

xp oh lol

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Friday, 20 June 2014 14:07 (twelve years ago)

The screened porch would be a lot less obtrusive if it weren't white and didn't have that stock hardware store diagonal lattice on the bottom. Did the prev owners have pets or small children? The lattice was probably to keep short, energetic things from barreling through the screens.

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Friday, 20 June 2014 14:09 (twelve years ago)

The lattice itself is just screwed into the wood frame. Could probably remove all of it in less than half an hour. Making the frame not white would make me like it more for sure.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 20 June 2014 14:16 (twelve years ago)

I think we have given up on buying a house. We've looked at probably close to 50 properties over the last few months, so I guess we are pretty picky. We lost out on one and couldn't come to terms post-inspection on another, but mostly we haven't seen anything we liked enough to buy. Honestly kind of relieved and excited to keep renting for the time being, tbh.

maybe/whatever/so what/boring (admrl), Friday, 20 June 2014 14:21 (twelve years ago)

I do have a fallback rental option if I decide it's not the right time to buy. I just have to get out of where I'm renting at present before I am driven insane.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 20 June 2014 14:23 (twelve years ago)

(IO, the word "Tudor" is used differently over here: obv "Tudor" can mean actual Tudor stuff, but in residential property terms the phrase "mock-Tudor" is a common term usually meaning fake half-timbered buildings mostly from the late C19th to the mid C20th. Just slightly different useage, nothing weird to see here.) (Also: hi IO, it's been ages.)

Tim, Friday, 20 June 2014 16:24 (twelve years ago)

JF I forgot to say that 95% certain is pretty certain plus it looks cool!
admrl we looked at around 50 last time round but tbh we looked at a wide range despite knowing at heart we wouldn't want a lot of them. Optimistic thinking..

kinder, Friday, 20 June 2014 16:51 (twelve years ago)

xp Well obviously, you have ACTUAL Tudor things! Our version is I think properly called "Tudor Revival" maybe?

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Friday, 20 June 2014 16:54 (twelve years ago)

JF I forgot to say that 95% certain is pretty certain plus it looks cool!

My dad went back to scope the exterior in more detail before he left town, and he said it has some issues we need to talk about tonight. Since it's already listed at nearly the top of my budget, I won't have a lot of money to fix anything that needs fixing anytime soon. Depending on what he tells me, I may have to cross it off the list. Wah.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 20 June 2014 16:57 (twelve years ago)

might just be ghosts...

scott seward, Friday, 20 June 2014 16:59 (twelve years ago)

btw, I also looked at this one that I mentioned upthread. It was a shithole. Not unsalvageable, but worth way less than what is being asked for it.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 20 June 2014 17:00 (twelve years ago)

Typical British Mock Tudor:

http://www.modernoak.co.uk/resources/_wsb_380x271_Mock+Tudor+Planking+web.jpg

Rabona not glue (aldo), Friday, 20 June 2014 17:06 (twelve years ago)

We looked at something like 350 houses over 18 months!

Spencer Chow, Friday, 20 June 2014 17:06 (twelve years ago)

http://www.modernoak.co.uk/resources/_wsb_380x271_Mock+Tudor+Planking+web.jpg

Rabona not glue (aldo), Friday, 20 June 2014 17:07 (twelve years ago)

^^^ Ha, that would fit right in in Decatur, JF.

WilliamC, Friday, 20 June 2014 17:08 (twelve years ago)

ADAM buy this one it's got green stuff growing all over it just like in olden england tymes:

http://www.trulia.com/property/3155152281-100-Elm-St-Greenfield-MA-01301

scott seward, Friday, 20 June 2014 17:11 (twelve years ago)

actually ADAM buy this house cuz the roof is all fucking weird AND it comes with another house. funky friggin' property.

http://www.trulia.com/property/3154863703-643-Bernardston-Rd-Greenfield-MA-01301

scott seward, Friday, 20 June 2014 17:14 (twelve years ago)

That house is dope.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 20 June 2014 17:29 (twelve years ago)

Thanks, Scott! I don't know...I'm kind of burned out on houses, I think!

We looked at something like 350 houses over 18 months!

Spencer, I do not know how anyone could find the time or patience to do this, but endurance aside, I could see us coming this close if there were as many to look at. I think I'd rather wait a few years and build something.

maybe/whatever/so what/boring (admrl), Friday, 20 June 2014 18:20 (twelve years ago)

i can't believe how cheap houses are in the US right now.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 20 June 2014 18:56 (twelve years ago)

lol

maybe/whatever/so what/boring (admrl), Friday, 20 June 2014 18:57 (twelve years ago)

I saw the perfect bungalow for me, in a good part of Fort Worth, bike distance to a Trader Joe's and walking distance to a yuppier Whole Foods-style market - $125k.

No chance I could get a mortgage yet and I don't really understand how people come up with $15-20k down payments.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 20 June 2014 19:34 (twelve years ago)

dead relatives, usually

polyamanita (sleeve), Friday, 20 June 2014 19:41 (twelve years ago)

the future of home ownership in America: to have a place to evacuate from

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Friday, 20 June 2014 19:46 (twelve years ago)

xp http://www.tchp.net/programs_services/hba/

Most cities and/or counties in the US have down payment assistance programs funded through local banks and lending institutions. Sometimes the income cutoff will rule out your eligibility, but sometimes it won't.

Check and see which lenders they work with specifically, because that lender will tell you everything you need to know about what you might qualify for (every lender I've talked to so far has jumped through hoops to get me free money).

Johnny Fever, Friday, 20 June 2014 19:47 (twelve years ago)

So on the house I saw Thursday that I liked a lot there are some issues. My dad thinks it's the end of the line for this house, but I kind of want to bring out a contractor to look it over anyway. But, basically, anywhere the trim along the roof touches the brick there are small-to-quite large gaps that were shoddily sealed up with foam. Seems like an open invitation for moisture and mold:

http://i.imgur.com/jiglStf.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/cr2md5Y.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/iiWZnz9.jpg

There are a lot more photos, but these three tell the story.

Also, the furnace is resting on a bed of mud in the basement with waterlines on it. Might mean the basement has flooded from a broken pipe once or it might mean the basement floods every time there's a good rain.

http://i.imgur.com/cOO5TGL.jpg

I'll be sad if I have to move on from considering this house, but I may have to. So many questionable points.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 21 June 2014 22:13 (twelve years ago)

yikes man. i have no idea how serious or not any of that is but it certainly doesn't inspire confidence.

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 23 June 2014 09:17 (twelve years ago)

^^^ my thoughts exactly

polyamanita (sleeve), Monday, 23 June 2014 15:47 (twelve years ago)


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