All good points, but I think a referral system isn't a bad idea for important international games, where a bad decision is recorded for posterity on television cameras, and thus where it makes sense to overturn a blatantly bad call. The issue of how far you go in this overturning is a niggly one and I don't think it'll be solved soon.
Anderson must have accidentally left a black cat in his oven before bowling in this innings.
― they probably drink corporate water (country matters), Monday, 9 March 2009 18:31 (seventeen years ago)
thank heavens for karma!
― they probably drink corporate water (country matters), Monday, 9 March 2009 18:40 (seventeen years ago)
I wonder if bob willis will go postal now on sky
― Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 9 March 2009 18:45 (seventeen years ago)
Prior is a worse wicket keeper than Geraint Jones isn't he?
― Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 9 March 2009 18:47 (seventeen years ago)
Worse than latter-day Geraint for sure. Better than early-day Geraint, however. Jones improved as a keeper to a quite remarkable extent.
― they probably drink corporate water (country matters), Monday, 9 March 2009 18:50 (seventeen years ago)
Prior shouldn't be in this team. But clearly they just want a batsman who can keep a bit. They don't want to pick the best wicket-keeper.
― Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 9 March 2009 18:53 (seventeen years ago)
The English wkt-keeper debate has been going on long before the last ashes, and we still have it.
― Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 9 March 2009 18:54 (seventeen years ago)
Prior hasn't dropped many since his recall (except for the really important one this morning) :(
― they probably drink corporate water (country matters), Monday, 9 March 2009 19:01 (seventeen years ago)
heh i doubt hes caught many though either this series
― Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 9 March 2009 19:09 (seventeen years ago)
oh wow what a catch from strauss
― Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 9 March 2009 19:12 (seventeen years ago)
(the ball after anderson dropped him)
Gayle out. now back to the defending to waste time
the WI should declare knowing england will have to bat like a 20/20 match , get bowled out cheap and nearly a day to knock off a handful of runs and win 2-0
― Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 9 March 2009 19:13 (seventeen years ago)
of course that might happen anyway even if the WI bat til tomorrow or lunch
― Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 9 March 2009 19:14 (seventeen years ago)
now collingwood drops one :(
― Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 9 March 2009 19:28 (seventeen years ago)
ban 20/20 cricket!
― jel --, Monday, 9 March 2009 19:48 (seventeen years ago)
lololololol i could sense blood pressures rising there
― they probably drink corporate water (country matters), Monday, 9 March 2009 19:52 (seventeen years ago)
jeez i thought the umpire wasn't even gonna give that out.
― Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 9 March 2009 19:52 (seventeen years ago)
on cue
― they probably drink corporate water (country matters), Monday, 9 March 2009 19:53 (seventeen years ago)
beefy says you dont have to appeal, the umpire gives it out if he knows it's out. I think Broad woulda turned into dennis lilley if that hadn't been given
― Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 9 March 2009 19:53 (seventeen years ago)
get a quick 250, bowl windies out for 50.
― jel --, Monday, 9 March 2009 19:56 (seventeen years ago)
^^^this
― they probably drink corporate water (country matters), Monday, 9 March 2009 19:56 (seventeen years ago)
aww no its a referral
― Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 9 March 2009 19:57 (seventeen years ago)
England 30-3 at close all out 90
What you think dar is gonna give?
― Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 9 March 2009 19:58 (seventeen years ago)
there has to be conclusive evidence the original decision is wrong. But he got it wrong last time with zero evidence. So who knows what he will give.
ahh its out.Now for the england collapse to look forward to ;)
― Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 9 March 2009 19:59 (seventeen years ago)
FIRST-INNINGS LEAD, WE WIN WOOOOOOOOO
― they probably drink corporate water (country matters), Monday, 9 March 2009 19:59 (seventeen years ago)
moral victory claims lj
― Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 9 March 2009 20:00 (seventeen years ago)
we should throw the bat about, if we lose 2 wickets then they need to reign it in and be more controlled. But with shah as likely to get out normal test cricket wise he may as well be told to play like a 20/20. Cook can stay firm at the other end while strauss and then shah go for it. If we only lose 1 wkt tonight KP can have a real slog tomorrow
― Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 9 March 2009 20:04 (seventeen years ago)
Open with Shah and KP :D
― they probably drink corporate water (country matters), Monday, 9 March 2009 20:07 (seventeen years ago)
naw dont want kp ran out...
― Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 9 March 2009 20:15 (seventeen years ago)
i think strauss and cook will see off the swinging ball that you get with the new ball. 5 overs or so then crack on. And hopefully put away the bad ball if you get one. Strauss and KP are the main guys though. They both have to score big and quickly. Lose 1 or both and england wont get a good enough score quickly enough.
― Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 9 March 2009 20:17 (seventeen years ago)
at the moment its not even about hitting sixes. If you can get some quick singles or run 3 instead of 2 etc and get a boundary every over the score could mount up to allow later batsmen to hit sixes every ball if they wish
― Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 9 March 2009 20:26 (seventeen years ago)
wi referring a not out for catch behind
― Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 9 March 2009 20:27 (seventeen years ago)
i assume this cant be given out but who knows what dar decides.
he doesnt hear the noise btw
― Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 9 March 2009 20:28 (seventeen years ago)
he has to have conclusive evidence to overturn it
(he def hit it btw)
― Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 9 March 2009 20:29 (seventeen years ago)
but i still dont think you can overturn it with tv pictures. as the law is supposed to be
and not out
― Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 9 March 2009 20:30 (seventeen years ago)
dar could hear the noise but couldnt see a deflection. *sigh* they need hotspot.
also Strauss isn't a walker. Do you think that's cheating if you don't walk?
― Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 9 March 2009 20:32 (seventeen years ago)
Not walking is dubious but it isn't cheating IMO
― they probably drink corporate water (country matters), Monday, 9 March 2009 20:32 (seventeen years ago)
alec stewart at tea said umpires can only give out with their eyes, not a noise. So i wonder what he will say at the close of play. Because there was a huge noise. If he had been given out I dont think strauss woulda referred it.
So at least both sides are suffering from shit umpiring. Hopefully these 2 will never umpire test matches again
― Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 9 March 2009 20:34 (seventeen years ago)
I have "not walked" in a club game. In fairness it was my first ball and the edge was down the leg-side so it felt a bit unfair. When I got a huge snick on it 5 runs later trying to mash it out of the park, and the keeper pulled off probably the best glovesman's catch I've ever seen at that level (top-right corner, flying through air etc), the bowler turned round and asked the umpire bitterly "how was THAT"...'twas all very droll.
― they probably drink corporate water (country matters), Monday, 9 March 2009 20:34 (seventeen years ago)
I knew you wouldnt walk
― Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 9 March 2009 20:37 (seventeen years ago)
strauss gone
― Jarlrmai, Monday, 9 March 2009 20:37 (seventeen years ago)
Gayle gets Strauss out C&B so the WI aren't punished after all.
I would walk in most circumstances, actually!
― they probably drink corporate water (country matters), Monday, 9 March 2009 20:38 (seventeen years ago)
So will Shah run cook out or himself? Or will he get out on the boundary slogging?
― Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 9 March 2009 20:38 (seventeen years ago)