Come anticipate David Fincher's "Zodiac"

can patricia and i come watch this at yr place some time, s1ocki?

― sean gramophone, Monday, March 9, 2009 5:57 PM (30 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

for reals.... i would watch it again anytime

saw it for the first time today <3<3<3<3

:D

Woman: Dad was the Zodiac, and I can prove it

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/04/29/BAFA17BE9N.DTL&tsp=1

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/05/01/BAP217CT9B.DTL&tsp=1

lol excerpts"

"My father was real bullheaded, and he did have a temper, and he did hit me, but did he kill people? I don't believe he did," she said today. "I just don't think he was a murderer or the Zodiac.

"I have fond memories of him, even though he went off on me now and then," she said.

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Hendrickson said she didn't think much of Perez's side of the family.

"My father found Deborah and her mother, a dime-a-dance girl, in Tijuana, Mexico, and brought them up here to live," Hendrickson said. "They lived in a place with dirt floors. That woman had seven kids. She used my father. How can you believe Deborah?"

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What's more, she said, "my dad read the Bible every night of the week, and he was always preaching that every man should support every kid he fathers," she said.

Not that he didn't hang out with some shady characters, Hendrickson conceded. "If anything, it would have been his best friend ... who carried a sawed-off shotgun, who might have done something like the Zodiac," she said. "But not my dad."

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/04/zodiac-killers-unmasking-lacks-cryptographic-proof/
“He didn’t give her the key but she knows how it works,” added McLean.

Uh huh. FAIL.

Reminded me a bit of of "The Day of the Jackal." They both have to build suspense by letting you in on logic and technicalities of the cat and mouse game more than the average thriller; in both cases because a historically-aware audience member already knows, to a certain extent, how the climax (or lack thereof) will go.

http://www.emotty.com/images/emoticons/932.png

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/revelations-zodiac-killer-134802483.html

Haha, yes, I'm sure SFPD, investigating the Paul Stine murder, gave one (1) shit about the Solano County Sheriff's Office.

Lyndon Lafferty is a great real name, though.

just reviving this because of all the talk on the Comfort Movies thread but also to let folk know the Director's Cut Blu Ray is now *$7.99* on Amaz0n.

worth every penny. the extras are great, as I recall.

yeah, some great documentary stuff on there.

ty for the revive, i just ordered it. Can't wait to dig in.

Hard to believe a dude skilled enough to pull of Zodiac and Social Network - tough stories to tell - could falter so hard with down the middle commercial dreck like Benjamin Button and Dragon Tattoo.

I will defend BB (which has a melancholy way about it which strikes me as more distant from middle-of-the-road sentimental Hollywood fare than it looks) but GWDT was pretty lame and rote.

There's an episode in an early season of The League where a dude hides the sex tape he made with his wife in the Benjamin Button sleeve because he knows no one will ever want to watch it. And then of course the biggest loser of his friends finds it, because he wants to watch Benjamin Button.

Hard to believe a dude skilled enough to pull of Zodiac and Social Network - tough stories to tell - could falter so hard with down the middle commercial dreck like Benjamin Button and Dragon Tattoo.

― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, July 13, 2013 4:13 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

it seems like there's no longer any stories that he's driven to tell. something comes across his desk and hes like 'well i guess i can make this'

Yeah he's clearly contemptuous towards the film system these days. I hope he doesn't start doing shitty middlebrow cable series..

i liked this a lot more 2nd time around. great soundtrack and rdj & ruffalo did a fine job

this is prob my fav scene

http://jmount43.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/capture3.jpg?w=1024&h=424

the bit with the watch

"does anyone think this suspect warrants further investigation?"

yeah the watch and them exchanging looks as he just offers up incriminating details

I have watched this movie way more times than is healthy, I think

doesn't really come alive until viewing 4 or 5 imo

Every time this is revived and people start talking about it, I want to watch it again...the look on Ruffalo's face during that interrogation--I think he ever so slightly arches his eyebrow at one point, trying to mask his incredulity.

otm

i think I watched it 4 times just when I bought the dvd

i wanna watch it again RIGHT NOW

ruffalo and edwards are so great throughout but that scene in particular is so great. so many little moments and glances.

let's watch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=DSuUJ-Scbeg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Gdt6SgFdNNw/TFljCzsgAfI/AAAAAAAASpE/smQYuF446_s/s1600/Picture+4.png

"Well, we'll be checkin' in on that..."

I think the Ruffalo reaction I had in mind happens between 45 and 47 seconds. But yeah, everybody in this scene. And the dead-centre framing on certain shots. As good as it gets.

lol I forgot the bit about his "alibi"

didn't it come out recently that it's definitely NOT that guy?

it's been pretty clear for 10+ years that it's not that guy or longer. graysmith's the only one who rode that hobbyhorse (into the ground, admittedly)

bottom line is that zodiac turned graysmith into a legit nutbar. his followup to the book the movie is based on is just, smdh

I've read about the implausibility of Allen too in a couple of places.

In terms of the movie, I wouldn't want it any other way, though. It's ambiguous and open-ended enough as is--I'm not sure it could support much more in that direction without disintegrating. It needs some kind of anchor, and Allen serves that purpose perfectly.

yeah i have no problem with the movie or the original book even though Allen is not at all the guy -- mainly because it captures more of the kind of fear/hysteria that the Zodiac created, even in Graysmith, which is more the story to me

and the movie is fucking BOSS

this movie was available on the plane but i opted for the godfather trilogy

Defensible choice, but I would have checked to see if your parachute was in working order after the first two.

speaking of defensible choices: Jake's hair!

Part of the thing with Allen is that he's the perfect example of a guy who seems creepy and definitely up to no good. You feel compelled to think "well he's guilty of something surely" and I think that feeling is part of what the movie is about. Easy Dirty Harry.

totally

also I like when they bust into his rv and find the sex toys and the animals in the freezer

so it was a well known fact in the States before this film came out, that it *isn't* who the cops in the film think it is/might be?
you'll have to forgive me as this crime isn't really that well known about in the UK at all iirc.

this is probably the last film i can recall watching twice at home over 2 nights, before that i'm thinking not since i was a kid with Karate Kid or something.

Allen was primarily singled out because of Graysmith's book. (A bestseller, I believe.) after the movie I compulsively checked out some theories online and there seems to be a lot of suspects these days.

As VegemiteGrrl points out the movie is really centered on Graysmith's narrative and can't be divorced from his point of view.

(Though obviously it's not totally reducible to his point of view either.)