Young Kirk n Spock + Lost = new Star Trek movie

I actually wouldn't mind if they did that, there's something to be said for a full-on reboot.

imo i don't really care how this relates to the other canon stuff

or what ned said

Surferdude Kirk, I negate thee.

i think this and terminator salvation are both gonna be pretty rad

yeah me neither. continuity is stupid.

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I mean, Nimoy's in it as Spock, there's some sort of time travel doohickey, but if the idea is he comes in and says "Well this is alternate me" or whatever, then fine.

what if spock is like omg this isnt true to gene roddenberry's vision too many explosions

what if he shuts down the whole movie while you're watching it???????

haha, screw with my childhood & I get medieval!

xp

Spock's ears turn out to be obviously phony, Shatner has a cameo as a raving maniac...

OLD SPOCK: "Wow our timeline was a lot junkier than yours. Can I stay here?"

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_s8l-yu7AZLM/SW0EwBebrKI/AAAAAAAAFvs/v57XnJKgzuE/s400/snl_st_14.jpg

it doesn't look THAT different

Au contraire, TOS looks a lot more like the SNL version than the new movie

This is gonna be better than Watchmen!

TALL ORDER

It's going to be better than Cloverfield!

dunno about that

Same basic plotline. Young folks get drunk at a party, a new situation occurs, shaky camera work, nonhumans.

a new situation occurs!

TALL ORDER

fat chance

sticking my neck out here but this is going to be the best Star Trek movie since IV

what if he shuts down the whole movie while you're watching it???????

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It would be great if old Spock turns up like the police at the end of "Monty Python & The Holy Grail"

old Spock: "All right, sonny. That's enough. Just pack that in" (Vulcan nerve pinches nu-Kirk)

it wouldn't be great.

no it would actually be sort of weird and disconcerting

what would be great would be if he then stepped out of the screen and started stomping people with his giant Vulcan boots

no, that would be sort of tragic!

all those people....

sticking my neck out here but this is going to be the best Star Trek movie since IV

Best Star Trek anything since IV (don't care for any of the TV sequels)

fuck y'all Star Trek VI is better than Star Trek IV!

Agree with everyone who thinks the problem with this is going to Kirk. That dude sucks.

Big problem, but I think the plots been constructed to try and minimise it - so it's always Kirk playing off another stronger character, for example, Kirk/Pike, Kirk/young Spock, Kirk/McCoy, Kirk/old Spock. I want to see how John Cho handles the role of Sulu, something that hasn't been shown in the trailers so far.

It only has to be marginally better than Nemesis to be awesome. Plus, chances of Spock walking around naked are very slim = good thing, 'tis logical to maintain modesty Manhatten.

glad to see were still figuring out a movies flaws based on the six minutes weve seen in the trailer

it's the only way to do it!

I'm assuming the Kirk dude is going to suck based on other stuff I've seen him in actually.

but maybe he'll get beat up by aliens a lot, and Spock'll have to save him.

http://www.agonyboothmedia.com/images/articles/Star_Trek/the_animated_series/Mudd_s_Passion/mudds_passion_34.jpg

"Is that a phaser in your pocket or are you pleased to see me?"

I actually wouldn't mind if they did that, there's something to be said for a full-on reboot.

I'm sure I'll still enjoy it, but the whole time travel thing becomes something like inverse reductionism. I.e. what's the meaning of anything if actions in time are infinitely malleable and there are multiple conflicting timelines - especially in a feature-length context? I feel like excessive time-travel has become a lazy route to complexity for these franchises.

What, only now? (I tease but I remember telling Rick Berman at a press conference for First Contact it seemed like they were heading to the well too many times there -- I was amused to see him use that phrase quite a bit after that.)

I'm hoping that the time travel thing isn't overplayed. This is the third Trek movie to include time travel in it's plot, fourth if we're counting Picard's Nexus hop. Generally I dislike time travel plots anyway, because, as Spencer notes above, they are a lazy way to complexity, but also because they result in lazy writing. They're like the modern equivalent of "so tell me, Professor, in layman's terms simple enough for the audience to understand, how does the Quark Compensated Veebleskwanger work?" dialogues.

Even good time travel plots reek of stoner-logic.

At least when Kirk & Co travel back in IV, the audience get to watch ol' JT hallucinate...

ned are you calling rick berman a style biter?

Lord no -- while we did have a bit of individual discussion following the conference itself, it's a common-enough phrase and he probably heard similar elsewhere (I hope he did, let's put it that way). But it does describe the phenomenon pretty well.

SIX-minute trailer? It only seems that long.

Isn't there some sci-fi story where a time traveler warns JFK that Vietnam will become a quagmire -- so Kennedy nukes Vietnam? HAHAHAHAHA

Rodenberry's original idea for the 2nd Trek movie had the Enterprise crew going back to stop the Kennedy assasination--maybe that will figure into this one.