"The Wire" on HBO

beautifully backwards too - mcnulty acts out, he tells landsman he doesn't want to go on the boat, he is detailed to the unit, …, lester speaks up, mcnulty takes him out for a drink to the story of how he was put on the shelf, THEN he gives him the advice, 'when they ask you where you wanna go, keep your mouth shut'

1 yr later, mcnulty on boat

Well yeah there's that but tbh that's kind of a big punchline that I caught the first time through. I'm thinking of more banal stuff, e.g. when they're asked to write reports on Barksdale and the fact that Homicide's is long (thanks mainly to McNulty) while Narcotics' report is short puts extra pressure on Daniels and Narcotics, who has suction with who, etc. Also I felt more sympathetic to the department's desire to keep the witness killing under raps, being genuinely concerned about their ability to get future witnesses to testify and not having the money to protect them.

Lots of little details, e.g. the legal exhaustion issue wrt cloning a pager. It just feels like Simon and co knew the workings of a police dept so well and had the guts to actually put a lot of that stuff in there that would get left out of most cop shows for dramatic purposes.

burns certainly did

Well yeah there's that but tbh that's kind of a big punchline that I caught the first time through

well aren't you just the tits, tell me more about details that were the basis for entire episodes that your keen eye discerned by careful wireology

yeah I guess that came off douchey. Anyway just saying the attention to detail is amazing.

tbf i'm pretty dim (had to watch some parts on subtitles, not even b/c of the baltimore slang - i'm talking the police procedural stuff) and the mcnulty on the boat thing was apparent to me the first time around, too

god damn don't yall motherfuckers never just appreciate

yes he ends up on the boat after explaining in an earlier episode that he didn't want to end up on the boat it's not an easter egg

lol otm

THEN he gives him the advice

yall are choads

It's a great bit for sure. I'm just saying, it's like ep 1 he says he doesn't want to go to the boat, then a couple eps later Freamon gives him the advice about where not to go. One additional thing I actually noticed this time around is that Landsman pleads McNulty's case in front of Rawls, and yet it's Landsman who also ultimately (presumably) reveals to Rawls that McNulty doesn't want to go to the boat. Landsman helps McNulty out to the extent he can, sticking his neck out as far as it will extend without getting under the blade, but at some point there's nothing more he can do and he has to give McNulty up.

tbf I think it was my wife who, the second Freamon started talking about that, was like "The boat. He said he didn't want to go to the boat."

whew as long as we properly credit first discovery, that's the important thing

Yeah, it's revealed in season two that it was Landsman who told Rawls about the boat-stuff, iirc.

Also Landsman is the one who asks him where he doesn't want to go. And he presumably knows exactly what he's doing when he asks, even while simultaneously wanting to stick up for McNulty to an extent -- good police but trouble, and it's all about which way the cost/benefit scale tips.

Does that happen in #1? I was looking for it actually cause yeah it was one of my favorite callback jokes but I don't remember catching it on last view.

Yeah it's in the first ep, when McNulty first stirs up the shitstorm.

just re-watched most of season 3. theresa d'agostino has to be the least likeable character in the entire series, apart from maybe that white journalist (templeton?) in s5. she's so awful, i cringe every time she's on the screen

always ziggy

I like D'Agostino.

it's funny, it's been several years since i watched this show and many of the plot lines and even the characters are blurring for me, but one thing i will always remember is how much i fucking hated ziggy

i'm 2 eps into s3 (2nd time through)

had completely forgotten how terrible ziggy was

i forgot about ziggy

s2 is kind of a blur to me, i don't remember as well as the others

also i feel bored whenever carcetti is on the screen. can't remember if that changed in s4 when he becomes mayor

De'Londa Brice (Namond's mom) gotta be the worst

i put this on the "your terrible ideas" thread already but:

i want to photoshop frank sobotka on the cover of the new swans album:

http://i.imgur.com/Ildk6Gg.png http://i.imgur.com/eAuwKwn.jpg

lol

ziggy and that fuckin duck.
and burning money.
frank and ziggy got the son/father they deserved imo

At least Nicky got out and grew a mustache.

also rewatching s3 i forgot how funny it is when snoop's bragging about shooting stringer, "pullin money out of his pockets and shit cryin like a lil baby"

dont forget ziggy's penis

never forget

I know it's the odd duck (har har) of the bunch, but I have a real soft spot for S2. The dock workers were a lovable group of characters, even that fuck up Ziggy. Kind of wished they figured more into the plot later on, but maybe it's for the best they didn't.

I mean, there's kind of an air in S3 of bringing back all the characters and plots people loved in S1 and burying any reference to the dock workers as if the whole season were a horrible mistake. A shame, really.

oh yeah i like S2 a lot but its prob my least fave

We see the dock workers later, though. Nicky heckling Carcetti, and Johnny Fifty in the homeless encampment in season 5.

I thought for sure Nicky was going to figure back into the story sometime later but it never really happened

we do see them, but they don't really figure into the plot in a significant way

I saw season 2 first so it's kinda my favourite.

De'Londa Brice (Namond's mom) gotta be the worst

this x1000000

how abt the cop who goes on a triple date w/ herc and carver then gets shot doing a hand-to-hand the next day

D'Angelo's mom was pretty bad

Dozerman? xp

Brianna Barksdale >>>>> De'Londa Brice

d'angelo's mom did some fucked up things but i ultimately found her to be sympathetic especially in season 3

theresa d'agostino is just insufferably arrogant

i mean, so are many of the characters on this show but she is just awful. other smug assholes are fun to watch, e.g. rawls

i love the docks season unreservedly. Fucking great stuff.