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Howard Shore should have worked "Where There's A Whip, THere's A Way" in there somewhere.

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Friday, 2 January 2004 18:09 (twenty-two years ago)

You evil man.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 2 January 2004 18:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Michael Medved, your friend. (As it is I remember Ari Fleischer wittering on somewhere about trying to draw parallels between himself and Frodo, so fuck 'em both.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 03:28 (twenty-two years ago)

what? ari fleischer claimed to be frodo-like? that's insane!

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 04:07 (twenty-two years ago)

god, michael medved is a douche

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 04:07 (twenty-two years ago)

that goldwyn "western union" quote doesn't even make sense in that context!

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 04:08 (twenty-two years ago)

what? ari fleischer claimed to be frodo-like? that's insane!

It wasn't the exact quote, but he talked about loving the films (fine enough) and then made some sort of half-assed 'reminds me of my own struggles' followup. I'm so glad I only read my news these days, I can't imagine what hearing that would have made me do.

The seventies Medved is long, long gone.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 04:09 (twenty-two years ago)

I didn't know where else to post this, but I think this is k-cool. I'm quoting a commercial auto policy for a horse farm whose business name happens to be R1v3nd3ll LLC. I can't wait to talk to these people on the phone!

nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 19:41 (twenty-two years ago)

One of my friends named her house that (several years ago).

C J (C J), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 19:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Was there ever a point in time when Michael Medved wasn't a gigantic soppy douche?

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 20:55 (twenty-two years ago)

I mean, for as long as I've been aware of him, I've thought his middle name was "Massengill".

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 20:56 (twenty-two years ago)

"Mom, can I ask you a personal question?"
"Well, of course, honey!"
"Do you Medved?"

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 20:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Was there ever a point in time when Michael Medved wasn't a gigantic soppy douche?

He and his brother Harry helped codify bad movie love as an art form in the seventies with their (very funny if often sophomorically so) books The 50 Worst Films of All Time, The Golden Turkey Awards (and its later sequel) and The Hollywood Hall of Shame, which specifically looked at big budget bombs. To give you an idea of their impact, a poll in 50 Worst was reported and tallied up in Golden Turkey and the winner was Plan 9 From Outer Space, which at the time was the first real codification of that film and Wood himself as the ne plus ultra of bad movies. To a large extent, the cult started right there. There's next to nothing in the books which would indicate that Medved would first turn into a boring flack and then a self-righteous hard-ass conservative (and apparently his brother Harry has followed suit, alas). A real loss to populist film mania for its own sake.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 02:56 (twenty-two years ago)

(Ned, what have I told you about raining on my parade? My lovely rant is all deflated by your pesky facts now, GAWD.)

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 04:38 (twenty-two years ago)

But I just thought the thing and the deal would be oh Dean I'm sorry wah wah wah < /Nutty Professor >

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 04:40 (twenty-two years ago)

hobbit fashion from italy

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 15 January 2004 16:20 (twenty-two years ago)

BEYOND CLASSIC

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 15 January 2004 16:21 (twenty-two years ago)

This is LONDON
15/01/04 - Fashion section

Long and short of it

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040114/capt.mil10501141644.italy_men_fashion_mil105.jpg

Italian fashion label Etro unveiled its own little and large show in Milan yesterday as two hirsute models hit the catwalk to show off its latest collection.

Sporting checked suits, the models looked more like they had stepped off the set of a Lord of the Rings film than the glamour fashion houses of Milan.

The Etro label was created in the 1960s and is characterized by a Paisley motif, which is its hallmark.

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 15 January 2004 16:23 (twenty-two years ago)

There was a reason Frodo and co stayed in those fashionable capris in all 3 films. Picturing the pride of THAT designer's mum: "All those years of schooling, all that cash spent on tuition, and you STILL don't know how to cut in a straight line?"

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Thursday, 15 January 2004 16:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Sad, really.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 18 January 2004 01:58 (twenty-two years ago)

He's bang-on (and i like LOTR). Every time one of these damn polls is done it comes top. It's become the Sgt.Peppers' of the book world.
Pride and Prejudice should have mashed it up good.

pete s, Sunday, 18 January 2004 02:21 (twenty-two years ago)

I wasn't talking about the poll results!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 18 January 2004 02:40 (twenty-two years ago)

And for Bombadil's sake Ned, hasn't LOTR had enough success/dissemination ? Why do you have to point out the few and ever-decreasing dissenting voices like they're heretics or something?
Will you only be happy when its completely taken over the earth?
Its huge succes and popularity is enough to quash any polite/anguished objections that might come from the world of acadaemia, you needn't worry there.

x-post

pete s, Sunday, 18 January 2004 02:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Will you only be happy when its completely taken over the earth?

Hurrah! (Well, you have to start somewhere.) I'm more just surprised at the existence of a piece which functions as an attempt to fight a rear-guard action in the name of Edmund Wilson and modernism -- did literature stop for this guy in 1940 or something?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 18 January 2004 03:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, I saw this at last. It was good-ish, but not great. It felt like alot had been cut, and it was only 3 hours and 5 minutes (before the credits start), so they could have put some more things in. Didn't quite get why Frodo goes off at the end, I assume he has post-traumatic stress, and is finding it hard to adjust to life back in the Shire. There was way too much hobbit stuff really.

jel -- (jel), Sunday, 18 January 2004 13:01 (twenty-two years ago)

oh! I get it now (thanks to my sister), it's coz of his injuries that he goes off.

jel -- (jel), Sunday, 18 January 2004 18:34 (twenty-two years ago)

That combined with psychological scarring etc., yes.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 18 January 2004 18:38 (twenty-two years ago)

three weeks pass...
Saw this again recently. Most of any comments I might have had to make have been already been submitted by now, so just a few random thoughts.

Another magnificent achievement, which I would like to see again (in a more comfortable environment than the local multiplex - so roll on the DVD!)

Visuals: I had thought before that the Elves at Helms Deep were reminiscent of the fallen angels in Burne Jones' The Fall Of Lucifer , & I was struck by the same similarity as Faramir led his troops back to their doom at Osgiliath down the twisting street of Minas Tirith.

Then again, the Grey Havens are a dead ringer for any of a dozen of Turner's seaports (colour/light), take Dido Building Carthage as an example, with the final shot of the ship melting into the light even having echoes of Ulysses Deriding Polyphemus

Gripes: the second seeing confirmed to me the crassness of juxtaposing barmy old Denethor's "blood" (from a tomato?? wtf) stained lips & chin with those of the Orcs occupying Osgiliath who have presumably been feasting on a few Gondorian soldiers. I wish there had been some exposition of the reason WHY he had been driven bonkers.

I dislike the introduction of Frodo's rejection of Sam on the stairway up Cirith Ungol for the same reasons that I find the mistrust between Rohan & Gondor irksome - it doesn't ring true with my memory of the book.

Shelob, for some reason looked more male than female to me. I missed the dragging belly, but most of all I couldn't see any eyes on the beast! which I remember as being its central feature, expressing all the creature's emotions. It also seemed a little dangerous using the light of EƤrendil to ward off a descendant of Ungoliant, but I checked that chapter & if it is an inconsistency it is paralled in the book.

The compression of all the action sequences contrasted unfavourably with the too long drawn out Hobbit-hugging farewell shots.

Maybe my seat was too uncomfortable but I find the hobbit love scene music reminiscent of the old Hovis ad theme which makes me expect them to break out into a Yorkshire accent at any time.

That enough bollocks from me.

When's The Hobbit coming out?

Mooro (Mooro), Saturday, 14 February 2004 11:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Rights to The Hobbit exist in a weird limbo (read here for a quick summation).

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 14 February 2004 17:10 (twenty-two years ago)

three months pass...
Good God, the last 15-20 minutes were some of the worst acting I've ever seen. The little twerp hero hobbit leering madly at his friends as he's whisked off to Atlantis - bleh.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Saturday, 22 May 2004 04:15 (twenty-two years ago)

That's nice. Anyway, Tuesday will be a fine, fine day.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 22 May 2004 04:15 (twenty-two years ago)

I could have bought it yesterday -- the local video store always ends up selling new releases a few day early.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Saturday, 22 May 2004 12:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Nice. I heard they busted some larger chain that was selling it in advance without apology, though I figured the smaller stores will do what they want. My local store is the Best Buy -- it's literally the nearest place that handles videos -- so I'll patiently wait.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 22 May 2004 14:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Pre-ordered mine from Amazon cause it's so much cheaper than anywhere local -- they tend to mail things a day before street date (on the reasoning that you can't possibly receive them the day they're mailed, I assume), so I ought to have it Wednesday, wahoo. I've actually thought about scheduling a day off to allow for the almost inevitability of deciding to sit down and watch all three in a row, but I have a trip from Thursday to Monday during which I won't get anything done, so I don't know if I can afford that.

Tep (ktepi), Saturday, 22 May 2004 14:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Heh. I know the feeling -- since I essentially did that with the Trilogy Tuesday showing when ROTK was released, this time around I'll just watch one a night starting Sunday. But when the extended version comes out...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 22 May 2004 14:31 (twenty-two years ago)

*having finished watching the DVD*

Yep, still brilliant. Now, the extended version. *sets some part of brain to somehow wait patiently for seven months*

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 04:06 (twenty-two years ago)

i can't be arsed until november. sorry.

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 05:49 (twenty-two years ago)

i am waiting to purchase anything until it all comes in ONE GIANT BOXED SET. until then i am more than satisfied with the regular & expanded editions that my aunt & uncle have. (they live less than a mile away & i babysit their kids often.)

Ian Johnson (orion), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 06:24 (twenty-two years ago)

three months pass...
have we been excited about this yet?
http://www.chopsocky.webbed-out.co.uk/debateimages/covers/rotkset.jpg

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 23 September 2004 23:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I know. I know. I wait. Patiently. Maybe.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 23 September 2004 23:52 (twenty-one years ago)

people that buy these things make my head hurt

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 23 September 2004 23:52 (twenty-one years ago)

THEY COST PEANUTS

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 23 September 2004 23:53 (twenty-one years ago)

It's true I'll have to put off the purchase of the next Peanuts book, maybe.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 23 September 2004 23:53 (twenty-one years ago)

YOU ARE BEING TEH RIPPED OFF

I BLAME GORGE LUCAZ

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 23 September 2004 23:54 (twenty-one years ago)

You shatter my crystal palace. How can you be so cruel?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 23 September 2004 23:54 (twenty-one years ago)

ned i am on the INSIDE NOW, through the looking glass

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 23 September 2004 23:55 (twenty-one years ago)

For some reason I imagine you as Dr. Manhattan and me as Ozymandias.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 24 September 2004 00:15 (twenty-one years ago)

does this mean i get to be blue and have an enormous wang?

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 24 September 2004 00:16 (twenty-one years ago)

If that works for you, sure.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 24 September 2004 00:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Is it too early to pre-order at Amazon?

::waiting anxiously for the multi-hour orgy to come when all three extended editions are in my hot hands::

Hey Jude, Friday, 24 September 2004 00:44 (twenty-one years ago)


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