― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 16:25 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 16:27 (twenty-one years ago) link
Kemper — IQ smart, even if a total social cataclysm in the non-metaphorical sense — also said (something like): "You pass a girl in a the street , and part of you thinks, 'She's cute, I'd like to date her' — and another part thinks, 'I wonder what her head looks like on a stick'"
I find the fact if Kemper's self-reflexive comedy timing the most ugly and most scary fact abt him, actually — certainly the hardest for me to process and be comfortable with. I can't be comfortable with it, bcz it means a state of mind i put a lot of moral trust in and enjoy — a playful sense of fun — is not firewalled territory after all.
― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 16:39 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Colin Meeder (Mert), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 16:51 (twenty-one years ago) link
in your heart you know I'm right.
― DV (dirtyvicar), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 16:56 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 17:06 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 17:13 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 17:23 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 17:24 (twenty-one years ago) link
i'm just rereading sherlock holmes at the moment, after a regrettable mini-binge on jack the ripper books: holmes = 1887-whenever, ripper murders = 1888 basically
i think a lot of holmes material is conan doyle (unconsciously?) dealing with ripper material, transforming it to cope with it, and help others cope => as usual, the cliche of victorian politeness is exploded... story after story centres on a hyper-nasty detail (little old lady sent two severed ears in the post) (this is a particuarly ripperish one actually)
(eg: the 'monster' who dances mockingly round the police, playing games with them, becomes the master detective in principle defeating crime, though actually almost always merely explaining it afterwards)
― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 17:32 (twenty-one years ago) link
(if i were charlotte cornwell i wd be using this as proof that CD *was* the ripper)
― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 17:36 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 17:54 (twenty-one years ago) link
― the hegemon, Tuesday, 25 February 2003 18:02 (twenty-one years ago) link
― the hegemon, Tuesday, 25 February 2003 18:04 (twenty-one years ago) link
*lawyers descend: mark s is no more*
― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 18:07 (twenty-one years ago) link
― David (David), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 22:24 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Lynskey (Lynskey), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 22:41 (twenty-one years ago) link
― That Girl (thatgirl), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 22:47 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Sonic Spam, Wednesday, 26 February 2003 01:01 (twenty-one years ago) link
*geeks out*
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 26 February 2003 01:46 (twenty-one years ago) link
― A Nairn (moretap), Wednesday, 26 February 2003 01:51 (twenty-one years ago) link
The fact that he is fairly beloved by goth serial killer fetishists and wannabe serial killers is pathetic.
― Colin Meeder (Mert), Wednesday, 26 February 2003 10:39 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Die Mauer, Wednesday, 26 February 2003 12:59 (twenty-one years ago) link
― phil-two (phil-two), Wednesday, 26 February 2003 13:03 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Lynskey (Lynskey), Wednesday, 26 February 2003 13:28 (twenty-one years ago) link
Time to dredge up the last post on this thread?
― Mooro (Mooro), Wednesday, 26 February 2003 13:39 (twenty-one years ago) link
And the word is "Hoden", du Angeber. Fick dich ins Knie.
― Colin Meeder (Mert), Wednesday, 26 February 2003 14:46 (twenty-one years ago) link
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 19:42 (twenty years ago) link
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 19:49 (twenty years ago) link
― DV (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 19:51 (twenty years ago) link
That's either the best or the worst film script idea I've ever heard.
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 19:52 (twenty years ago) link
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 20:04 (twenty years ago) link
mmmmm.
― DV (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 20:15 (twenty years ago) link
http://www.usatoday.com/life/photos/movies/ripley2.jpg
http://www.cinema.com/image_lib/18_31_thumb.jpg
Destroy:
http://www.mostradelcinemadivenezia.tv/2002/images/ripleys%20game.jpg
― felicity (felicity), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 20:25 (twenty years ago) link
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 20:26 (twenty years ago) link
http://www.manhunter.net/remake/gfx/160/ralph_fiennes.jpg
http://www.thisisbradford.co.uk/bradford__district/leisure/cinema/jpg/red-dragon.jpg
― felicity (felicity), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 20:29 (twenty years ago) link
― David (David), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 21:27 (twenty years ago) link
Interesting thing is that ever since Gary Ridgway was arrested for about four or five of the Green River killings, ever since he's been in police custody, suddenly they're finding the remains of some of the missing females who were thought to have been the victims of the Green River killer. They found Pammy Avent, April Buttram, and Marie Malvar, and hopefully they'll find Kelli McGinness, Rebecca Marrero, Patricia Osborn, Kase Lee, and Kristi Vorak. And I wonder who the unidentified victims were. Hmmm.
― Many Coloured Halo (Dee the Lurker), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 22:04 (twenty years ago) link
― DV (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 22:13 (twenty years ago) link
― Kerry (dymaxia), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 23:07 (twenty years ago) link
*swoon*
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 23:10 (twenty years ago) link
― L(E^24) (Leee), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 23:14 (twenty years ago) link
― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 23:32 (twenty years ago) link
Search: anything by Jack Olsen
― Freedom Dupont, Thursday, 6 November 2003 00:02 (twenty years ago) link
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 6 November 2003 00:05 (twenty years ago) link
― L(E^24) (Leee), Thursday, 6 November 2003 00:12 (twenty years ago) link
*stares and blinks*
:0 ...
― Many Coloured Halo (Dee the Lurker), Thursday, 6 November 2003 02:19 (twenty years ago) link
They make good villains in films because there is a kind of existential force of evil aspect to them.
Does anyone remember the Cereal Convention in Sandman?
― DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 6 November 2003 15:38 (twenty years ago) link
http://www.sensesofcinema.com/images/directors/02/21/manhunter.jpg
― Chris Hungus (Chris V), Thursday, 6 November 2003 16:21 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex K (Alex K), Thursday, 6 November 2003 16:25 (twenty years ago) link
yeah the City vs County stuff was maddening, like preventing the car from being fingerprinted. cmon. it seems like it was just out of puerile competitive vindictiveness that the city put up roadblocks like thatyou hear about it all the time but seeing it on a huge case like that is just ugh
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 19:33 (three years ago) link
Id not discount the power of the framing here too tho. Our two boys were settling scores left, right and centre here
― Qanondorf (darraghmac), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 19:48 (three years ago) link
tru
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 19:59 (three years ago) link
Isn't there a serial killer at large in Long Island right now?
― emilys., Friday, 7 June 2013 23:22 (ten years ago) link
Not anymore
https://nypost.com/2023/07/14/gilgo-beach-lisk-serial-killings-suspect-in-police-custody-report/
― omar little, Friday, 14 July 2023 16:23 (one year ago) link
A suspected serial killer has been arrested over the notorious Gilgo Beach murders in Long Island, The Post can confirm.Rex Heuermann, 59, a married architect at a New York City firm, was arrested after being matched to DNA, sources told The Post Friday as cops swarmed his home on 1st Avenue in Massapequa Park.
Rex Heuermann, 59, a married architect at a New York City firm, was arrested after being matched to DNA, sources told The Post Friday as cops swarmed his home on 1st Avenue in Massapequa Park.
― omar little, Friday, 14 July 2023 16:24 (one year ago) link
Gilgo Beach is very close to wear I grew up. I remember when they found the first remains. I hope the girls’ families have some peace now.
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Friday, 14 July 2023 16:28 (one year ago) link
wow.
― linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Friday, 14 July 2023 16:29 (one year ago) link
Ugh where not wear
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Friday, 14 July 2023 16:29 (one year ago) link
Gonna be interested to read about how they tracked him down though seems like the family DNA database thing has started to be the break in the case on many of these (iirc both the golden state killer and that guy they caught for the Idaho college student murders were nabbed that way)
― omar little, Friday, 14 July 2023 16:34 (one year ago) link
oh wow yeah those families have really been through it, hope this gives them some relief if anyone is curious, Robert Kolker’s “Lost Girls” book covers these murders - highly recommend if you haven’t read it
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 14 July 2023 17:00 (one year ago) link
Glad a suspect was caught, but I really need to know why an architect who works in Manhattan is living in such a shithole of a house.
― TO BE A JAZZ SINGER YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SCAT (Jazzbo), Friday, 14 July 2023 18:07 (one year ago) link
I guess if I was a serial killer I probably wouldn't ever want to do renovations if it might involve having workers on the property snooping around.
― o. nate, Friday, 14 July 2023 18:14 (one year ago) link
Xpost
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdUOG8pL_m0
― linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Friday, 14 July 2023 18:19 (one year ago) link
True, but he had a wife and possibly one or two kids living there as well, according to what I've read. I wonder what they thought of living in that shack while dad commuted to his Fifth Avenue office every day.
― TO BE A JAZZ SINGER YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SCAT (Jazzbo), Friday, 14 July 2023 18:22 (one year ago) link
I had always felt married serial killers were more a thing of the 70s and earlier. Feel like in this era of electronic communication and surveillance, keeping secrets from anybody is much more difficult.
― linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Friday, 14 July 2023 18:27 (one year ago) link
The last couple major serial killers they caught were the usual "devoted family man", iirc the golden state killer and btk fit that profile.
― omar little, Friday, 14 July 2023 18:53 (one year ago) link
it’s not really a matter of technology improving - hiding in plain sight (including deceiving a spouse) is a power move for them bc they believe they’re smarter than anyone else and/or technology
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 14 July 2023 18:56 (one year ago) link
they will continue to believe it & act accordingly until humans no longer walk the earth
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 14 July 2023 18:57 (one year ago) link
My best friend in hs lived in the town this guy is from. Range of houses in terms of style and condition but I was also a little surprised when I saw it.
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Friday, 14 July 2023 19:01 (one year ago) link
xpost sorry i went right into Keith Morris mode lol
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 14 July 2023 19:07 (one year ago) link
*son
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 14 July 2023 19:08 (one year ago) link
One article I implied the break was related to communications/surveillance technology that the Feds brought to bear only recently. For years prior to that, local (Suffolk County) police had refused to bring in the Feds or utilize other technology. Ten years ago someone had taunted the sister of one of the victims with one or more phone calls in which they gloated about the killing and the calls were only traced to somewhere in Manhattan.
My guess is the reference to DNA was that a recent sample had confirmed the suspect already under surveillance was connected to the crimes, not that they found the suspect with DNA.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Friday, 14 July 2023 19:14 (one year ago) link
article I read
I read Kolker's Lost Girls three or four years ago--I don't remember, but I guess it ended then with the murders unresolved.
― clemenza, Friday, 14 July 2023 19:15 (one year ago) link
Yeah I saw something earlier about communications and cell phones being one of the final pieces of evidence.
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Friday, 14 July 2023 19:21 (one year ago) link
_I guess if I was a serial killer I probably wouldn't ever want to do renovations if it might involve having workers on the property snooping around._True, but he had a wife and possibly one or two kids living there as well, according to what I've read. I wonder what they thought of living in that shack while dad commuted to his Fifth Avenue office every day.
― Gerard Grisey Funk (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 14 July 2023 19:42 (one year ago) link
that's how they found him
― linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Friday, 14 July 2023 19:43 (one year ago) link
It’s very hard for me to understand how a guy like this can have an outwardly stable job and seemingly normal family life.
― treeship., Friday, 14 July 2023 20:43 (one year ago) link
Whereas nice, normal people often struggle with this stuff.
https://imgur.com/a/38me63N
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Friday, 14 July 2023 20:59 (one year ago) link
oh dammit - I don't remember how to post pics
Anyway, breaking news from the news12 Long Island instagram account (shut up) - Pizza was used to match DNA to Gilgo Beach suspect which is just the most perfectly Long Island thing.
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Friday, 14 July 2023 21:04 (one year ago) link
It's becoming apparent that this might have been solved years ago had the previous Suffolk County DA not been so corrupt and incompetent.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Friday, 14 July 2023 21:24 (one year ago) link
Yeah the entire thing was crazy corrupt. I have to reread about it to remember the details but that much has been clear for a while.
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Friday, 14 July 2023 21:27 (one year ago) link
I say that because the task force found this guy was only formed in February 2022 after the previous DA refused for years until he got convicted of corruption.
xp
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Friday, 14 July 2023 21:29 (one year ago) link
I mean:
The task force formed to restart the investigation into the Gilgo Beach serial killings was created in February 2022 — more than 10 years after human remains were first found on a stretch of Long Island.Six weeks later, in March 2022, Rex Heuermann was first named as the potential suspect in the killings, Suffolk County District Attorney Ray Tierney said at a news conference Friday.
Six weeks later, in March 2022, Rex Heuermann was first named as the potential suspect in the killings, Suffolk County District Attorney Ray Tierney said at a news conference Friday.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Friday, 14 July 2023 21:32 (one year ago) link
I just read about how they used his Amex statements to link him to a tinder account which was under a fake name and email which was linked to burner phones. He had repeatedly been searching for info on the case and suspects and also for info on the victims families.
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Friday, 14 July 2023 21:41 (one year ago) link
So fucking creepy. Oh and they’ve already established that his wife was either out of state or abroad when 3 out of the 4 murders happened. They could have figured this out years ago. Jesus.
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Friday, 14 July 2023 21:42 (one year ago) link
The way these guys will revel in the pain of the families is just some of the sickest shit, not that any aspect of their crimes isn't already on that level.
― omar little, Friday, 14 July 2023 21:54 (one year ago) link
That's the part that just made my skin crawl. Not only do you have the pain of losing a family member, but you get stalked afterwards by the creepazoid who did.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Friday, 14 July 2023 22:08 (one year ago) link
it.
America
Gilgo Beach serial killings suspect Rex Heuermann has permits for 92 guns, Suffolk County District Attorney Ray Tierney said at a news conference Friday.
“He has a very large safe in which guns are kept,” he said.
When asked if investigators have found all 92 guns, Tierney said, “We are continuing to execute search warrants, so I’m sure we will have that answer shortly.”
― omar little, Saturday, 15 July 2023 01:50 (one year ago) link
just normal gun things
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 15 July 2023 02:06 (one year ago) link
some amazing detective work by the task force on the cell phone side, everything is outlined here;
https://www.scribd.com/document/659084376/Gilgo-Beach-murder-court-documents#
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 15 July 2023 03:47 (one year ago) link
Having read that, this guy's fucking cooked.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Saturday, 15 July 2023 13:11 (one year ago) link
also the more I've read about this, they had most of these pieces around to solve this case years ago and simply didn't bother
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 15 July 2023 15:31 (one year ago) link
guy seems to have not understood the point of a burner phone is that you use it once, or for one task, and then get rid of it.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 15 July 2023 15:32 (one year ago) link