Ta-Nehisi Coates Rules, The Thread

hmm SOME PEOPLE itt dont like subtweets it seems

hahaha wait, so Ta-Nehisi Coates writes a short article about a woman's conflicted relationship with her natural hair and that is proof that he hates black women?

idgi

yeah mystified over here too

I think it might be another piece about Lupita Nyong'o being referred to? At least that's what it seemed like in that stream of tweets.

But if they're talking about this, then I even MORE don't get it

http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2014/03/lupita-nyongos-radical-world-changing-style/284274/

Bah, that's not even by Ta-Nehisi.

lol

https://twitter.com/nealcarter/status/469480372518912001

https://twitter.com/nealcarter/status/469492058907230208

https://twitter.com/nealcarter/status/469501346383921152

I think that is the whole of it

TNC dissed Nel Carter?!

ha it is that first one

they are outing TNC for wearing a hair piece and he won't own up to it

but it looks so natural!

Well, Steve Harvey faked having the freshest line-up in America for damn near a decade. If not him, then who can we trust?

omg dying at the "controversy" there.

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/05/the-case-for-reparations-an-intellectual-autopsy/371125/

And this lobs a point that's right in my wheelhouse

http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/05/coming-to-terms-with-difficult-history-japan-china-germany-and-the-united-states/371401/

genuinely considering subscribing to the Atlantic for a year just to give props to that article.

omg dying at the "controversy" there.

― wat is teh waht (s.clover), Thursday, May 22, 2014 5:50 PM (4 hours ago)

this goof on twitter who "started this" (NB i have no idea if anyone has paid attention to his tweets outside of the people itt) has like 2000 followers, i really doubt anyone GAF

What is considered to be a "blue period" on this blog, is considered to be a survey course among academics. Which is not to say everyone, or even mostly everyone, agrees with me in the academy. It is to say that I've yet to engage a historian or sociologist who's requested that I not be such a downer.

o t m

this goof on twitter who "started this" (NB i have no idea if anyone has paid attention to his tweets outside of the people itt) has like 2000 followers, i really doubt anyone GAF

I found out about it from Jamelle Bouie's twitter

thought the abrupt conclusion on the subprime stuff worked, like he's preempting the standard cognitive urge to assign an ending to the story since huge part of his point is that in no way is this history over, it's all one long horrible continuum running unbroken right up to the present.

Coates on Chris Hayes' show tonight.

Yeah I was waiting for him to drop the subprime stuff - when he started mentioning it I figured it was the equivalent of the lights going on at the end of a show xp

http://billmoyers.com/episode/facing-the-truth-the-case-for-reparations/

^^ Interview on Moyers doesn't add much, but I like watching him talk.

PFT Commenter with the closest thing we're going to see to a rebuttal: http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/2014/05/reparations-http://images.chron.com/blogs/askacat/hatcat.JPG-mark-cuban-essay-race-three-parts.html

aha, my first hatcat, achievement unlocked.

anonanon otm, found the circling back around to (and leaving off in the middle of) flat reportage after the article's emotional climax (but now it wasn't 1790 or 1865 or 1946 or 1980) devastating honestly.

He was interviewed on NPR's All Things Considered last night too

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/117869/ta-nehisi-coates-reparations-article-sparks-conservative-outrage

This is about the reaction on 1 conservative talk show when liberal writer Isaac Chotiner (who had written about the Coates article) was invited on to discuss reparations

PFT Commenter with the closest thing we're going to see to a rebuttal

I think I deserve reparations for even starting to read that.

John McWhorter's response.

aaaand Kevin Williamson's, which is measured and civil for a NRO article.

That second piece is pretty interesting, I think, and worth a read, whether one agrees with it or not, and/or distrusts the platform.

Personally looking forward to the National Museum of African American History and Culture in DC ... next year? Is that right? If done right, and I assume it will be, it will not only be a massive success but should also spark debates/discussions like this on a weekly basis. Plus attract/agitate the usual assholes.

http://nmaahc.si.edu/

I would assume, if nothing else, a conservative could take from the TNC article some ammunition for their next article about how the New Deal and FDR were racist.

Well, they kinda were! TNC read Ira Katznelson; his book's pretty great.

And more Reagan love:

Black households saw stronger income growth than did white households during the Reagan boom,

Would like to read more on this with some context

When you're at the bottom, there's nowhere to go but up?

That's how I felt when I finished Williamson.

That there is some question-begging going on there — whether “white supremacy” really describes a significant motive force in American public life —

lol fuck this guy

Williamson, for those who don't remember, fought Jonathan Bernstein over the question of Democratic racism; the guy could not accept that "Democrats" and "liberals" were not synonymous for most of the twentieth century.

that Williamson article is the ultimate "don't read the comments" piece.

Now you tell me...

ha ha yeah, I got to the 2nd one--which was like maybe we should just let black people mug white people to collect their reparations--and I was out.

Doesn't even come close to the wall of shit under this.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/may/23/the-case-for-reparations?

the huge backlash from racist reactionaries that we're seeing just bolsters coates's argument that the end of slavery and jim crow hardly saw the end to institutional racism in the US.

they are kind of making his argument while trying to rebut his argument

Otoh this is in fact what a conversation about race looks like in America.

I hope TNC doesn't take time refuting a bunch of lame responses--I feel like he should turn this article into a documentary.

agreed

Jun 12, 2014 • 7:00 pm
Just days before the 50th anniversary of the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, Ta-Nehisi Coates, a national correspondent for The Atlantic, will sit down with Jeffrey Goldberg to discuss Coates’ provocative June cover story making the case for reparations.

At 6th & I synagogue in DC

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/05/27/coates_reparations_response_free_market_economist_says_discrimination_made.html

Oh Tyler Cowen & your free market libertarian economics

With the caveat that yes, Fredrik DeBoer is, as they say, a gaping asshole, there's a lot of truth here.