Ta-Nehisi Coates Rules, The Thread

haven't read this yet but intrigued by the idea that something could be so forcefully argued that it can only be fitfully processed in the noise of political discourse.

it's both comprehensively argued and also asks for so little - the passage of a bill to study the issue

can't wait for NRO's Kevin Williamson's response.

― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, May 22, 2014 12:33 PM

Maybe I'm not attentive enough, but it seems to me that NRO steers clear of Coates.

don't think they'll be able to avoid this one

I love the way the story of Clyde Ross is woven through this piece. It really becomes something much more than a 'thinkpiece' or an 'article'...I mean, part of me want this to blow up into a book deal. I'd love to read more.

I did feel a bit the same as Mordy w/r/t to the conclusion...I scrolled down looking for another page or something, it was an abrupt conclusion for something so well structured and thoughtful.

otm its more than just an article, the thing that really sets coates apart imo is that while he can do the reporting and argumentation especially as good as anyone he really brings a true personal caring and humanity and humility to his work, an inspiration to us all

http://www.npr.org/blogs/codeswitch/2014/05/22/314881767/how-to-tell-if-someones-actually-read-ta-nehisi-coates-essay

yeah but now u can just read that and adjust accoringly

imo coates blog used to be much better than his long form writing but its seems like now hes incorporated a lot of what makes the blog so great into his other pieces

any idea what these guys are talking about?

https://twitter.com/nealcarter/status/469475311868846080

I fucking hate when people throw shade with no link to whatever it is that caused them to throw shade

also fuck Tim Wise

this is apparently the piece he's talking about:

http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2013/04/fear-the-fro/275379/

lol that guy's twitter pic tho

Still not getting what the issue is here. Sounds like some echo chamber bs to me.

hmm SOME PEOPLE itt dont like subtweets it seems

hahaha wait, so Ta-Nehisi Coates writes a short article about a woman's conflicted relationship with her natural hair and that is proof that he hates black women?

idgi

yeah mystified over here too

I think it might be another piece about Lupita Nyong'o being referred to? At least that's what it seemed like in that stream of tweets.

But if they're talking about this, then I even MORE don't get it

http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2014/03/lupita-nyongos-radical-world-changing-style/284274/

Bah, that's not even by Ta-Nehisi.

lol

https://twitter.com/nealcarter/status/469480372518912001

https://twitter.com/nealcarter/status/469492058907230208

https://twitter.com/nealcarter/status/469501346383921152

I think that is the whole of it

TNC dissed Nel Carter?!

ha it is that first one

they are outing TNC for wearing a hair piece and he won't own up to it

but it looks so natural!

Well, Steve Harvey faked having the freshest line-up in America for damn near a decade. If not him, then who can we trust?

omg dying at the "controversy" there.

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/05/the-case-for-reparations-an-intellectual-autopsy/371125/

And this lobs a point that's right in my wheelhouse

http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/05/coming-to-terms-with-difficult-history-japan-china-germany-and-the-united-states/371401/

genuinely considering subscribing to the Atlantic for a year just to give props to that article.

omg dying at the "controversy" there.

― wat is teh waht (s.clover), Thursday, May 22, 2014 5:50 PM (4 hours ago)

this goof on twitter who "started this" (NB i have no idea if anyone has paid attention to his tweets outside of the people itt) has like 2000 followers, i really doubt anyone GAF

What is considered to be a "blue period" on this blog, is considered to be a survey course among academics. Which is not to say everyone, or even mostly everyone, agrees with me in the academy. It is to say that I've yet to engage a historian or sociologist who's requested that I not be such a downer.

o t m

this goof on twitter who "started this" (NB i have no idea if anyone has paid attention to his tweets outside of the people itt) has like 2000 followers, i really doubt anyone GAF

I found out about it from Jamelle Bouie's twitter

thought the abrupt conclusion on the subprime stuff worked, like he's preempting the standard cognitive urge to assign an ending to the story since huge part of his point is that in no way is this history over, it's all one long horrible continuum running unbroken right up to the present.

Coates on Chris Hayes' show tonight.

Yeah I was waiting for him to drop the subprime stuff - when he started mentioning it I figured it was the equivalent of the lights going on at the end of a show xp

http://billmoyers.com/episode/facing-the-truth-the-case-for-reparations/

^^ Interview on Moyers doesn't add much, but I like watching him talk.

PFT Commenter with the closest thing we're going to see to a rebuttal: http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/2014/05/reparations-http://images.chron.com/blogs/askacat/hatcat.JPG-mark-cuban-essay-race-three-parts.html

aha, my first hatcat, achievement unlocked.

anonanon otm, found the circling back around to (and leaving off in the middle of) flat reportage after the article's emotional climax (but now it wasn't 1790 or 1865 or 1946 or 1980) devastating honestly.

He was interviewed on NPR's All Things Considered last night too

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/117869/ta-nehisi-coates-reparations-article-sparks-conservative-outrage

This is about the reaction on 1 conservative talk show when liberal writer Isaac Chotiner (who had written about the Coates article) was invited on to discuss reparations

PFT Commenter with the closest thing we're going to see to a rebuttal

I think I deserve reparations for even starting to read that.

John McWhorter's response.

aaaand Kevin Williamson's, which is measured and civil for a NRO article.

That second piece is pretty interesting, I think, and worth a read, whether one agrees with it or not, and/or distrusts the platform.

Personally looking forward to the National Museum of African American History and Culture in DC ... next year? Is that right? If done right, and I assume it will be, it will not only be a massive success but should also spark debates/discussions like this on a weekly basis. Plus attract/agitate the usual assholes.

http://nmaahc.si.edu/

I would assume, if nothing else, a conservative could take from the TNC article some ammunition for their next article about how the New Deal and FDR were racist.

Well, they kinda were! TNC read Ira Katznelson; his book's pretty great.

And more Reagan love:

Black households saw stronger income growth than did white households during the Reagan boom,

Would like to read more on this with some context

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