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esp. since they've been at it in small ways for over a decade

markers, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 19:43 (twelve years ago)

my theory is that google, linkedin, yahoo, etc. have all agressively open sourced their network/data stuff (hadoop, hive, pig, kafka, etc.) and created an ecosystem of talent to draw from. apple obviously do this in some areas, and have benefited correspondingly (ios, etc.), but not in this one.

caek, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 20:06 (twelve years ago)

like there is no one not already at apple who is an expert in apple's technology in this area, which is not at all true of google or even MS

caek, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 20:07 (twelve years ago)

Some of it they're pretty good at - the iTunes Store shifts some bits and the App Store is surprisingly robust for what is basically an iTunes hack. But it's all WebObjects and yeah there are like 25 people on a mailing list who could work on that outside Apple. None of that is hosted externally, apart from the CDN bits

stet, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 20:21 (twelve years ago)

it's just fucking wild to me that apple is a hardware/software/services company, knows that's who it is, yet doesn't put a hell of a lot more effort into the services part of that formulation

markers, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 20:21 (twelve years ago)

xpost

markers, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 20:21 (twelve years ago)

it's in their long term interest to get better at services. keeping that in mind, why wouldn't they do whatever they have to do so that ten years from now their shit is killer, even if that means using something other than webobjects or whatever? even if that means rewriting massive amounts of stuff and fucking with hardware in their data centers

markers, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 20:23 (twelve years ago)

make it a goal to get google-caliber at services

markers, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 20:23 (twelve years ago)

not that that'd even be achievable

markers, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 20:24 (twelve years ago)

but try to get there -- set the bar high

markers, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 20:24 (twelve years ago)

not, "we can't even get our notes app to sync properly"

markers, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 20:24 (twelve years ago)

With the exception of pro- and semi-pro software, they've given up nearly completely on selling much software.

It's pretty much hardware >
operating systems for hardware >
media ecosystem (iTunes store, etc) that builds their media ecosystem >
base applications that make people buy other hardware (iTunes & such linking hardware to iPad/iPhone/iPod) >
pro applications they sell for a few bucks that drive hardware sales >
services that keep hardware afloat w/back-ups and keeping up to minimal expected standards for 2014

a strange man (mh), Wednesday, 14 May 2014 21:10 (twelve years ago)

so, them operating the services out of a completely rag-tag bunch of servers that they can cut loose at any time makes some sense

a strange man (mh), Wednesday, 14 May 2014 21:11 (twelve years ago)

btw I meant "media stores to feed their device ecosystem"

a strange man (mh), Wednesday, 14 May 2014 21:12 (twelve years ago)

apple can't even get its podcasts app to work right

socki (s1ocki), Thursday, 15 May 2014 14:58 (twelve years ago)

what's wrong?

markers, Thursday, 15 May 2014 14:59 (twelve years ago)

i use it on my ipad mini

markers, Thursday, 15 May 2014 14:59 (twelve years ago)

lol nice try

caek, Thursday, 15 May 2014 15:11 (twelve years ago)

. . .

markers, Thursday, 15 May 2014 17:33 (twelve years ago)

slocki, i'd like to hear from you about that if you see my post instead of hearing from this asshole

markers, Thursday, 15 May 2014 17:34 (twelve years ago)

podcasts app works much better than it used to ime and I use it a lot (iPhone 5)

anonanon, Thursday, 15 May 2014 17:38 (twelve years ago)

Podcast app just updated (along with 10.9.3 and iTunes 11.2) just now. Now it seems worse again.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 15 May 2014 18:54 (twelve years ago)

it has improved in some ways but it still does insane stuff like: i listen to part of a podcast, then stop. come back later, and it's assumed i've finished with it deleted the file from my iphone so i have to re-dl it or waste cellular data.

sometimes it dls new eps, sometimes it doesn't. sometimes it syncs with itunes, sometimes it doesn't. its hysterically bad.

socki (s1ocki), Thursday, 15 May 2014 19:10 (twelve years ago)

thanks. i use it but just put up with however it works

markers, Thursday, 15 May 2014 19:13 (twelve years ago)

The podcast app has basically made listening to podcasts on my iphone 4 impossible.

polyphonic, Thursday, 15 May 2014 19:24 (twelve years ago)

markers i assumed you were joking. seems impossible to read as much apple stuff as you do and not be aware that podcasts is literally the worst software apple have produced since 9/11.

caek, Thursday, 15 May 2014 19:45 (twelve years ago)

apologies. and hah. i literally *use* podcasts, and i guess i just don't notice it or work around its flaws? idk for sure what's going on there.

markers, Thursday, 15 May 2014 19:52 (twelve years ago)

Try using Pocket Casts, Downcast or Instacast... they are all better than the Apple app. You'll see the difference.

sofatruck, Thursday, 15 May 2014 20:27 (twelve years ago)

Downcast has 30-second skip.

schwantz, Thursday, 15 May 2014 20:41 (twelve years ago)

I believe in Pocket Casts you can set both the backward and forward skip rates. I also like that you can change the playback rate by 10ths. 1.3x is my sweet spot.

sofatruck, Thursday, 15 May 2014 22:20 (twelve years ago)

Downcast is flipping great. It lets you do the 30-second skip with a double click of your middle headphone button – makes its so easy to skip adverts/boring bits on podcasts when you're walking about.

Alba, Thursday, 15 May 2014 23:21 (twelve years ago)

that is an interesting feature.

markers, Thursday, 15 May 2014 23:46 (twelve years ago)

i did a little gaming on an ipod classic at the apple store

markers, Friday, 16 May 2014 03:35 (twelve years ago)

the ipod nano also had ios 6ish elements to it, b/c they never updated the interface apparently

markers, Friday, 16 May 2014 03:36 (twelve years ago)

should 10.9.3 be applied urgently via lol security or can i wait?

caek, Friday, 16 May 2014 15:43 (twelve years ago)

well, there's the "It improves the stability, compatability, and security of your Mac." in the release notes

markers, Friday, 16 May 2014 15:58 (twelve years ago)

but besides that, it doesn't look like this one's *about* security

markers, Friday, 16 May 2014 15:58 (twelve years ago)

that being said, i already am running it, because that's what i do

markers, Friday, 16 May 2014 15:58 (twelve years ago)

here's the link: http://www.macrumors.com/2014/05/15/apple-releases-os-x-10-9-3/

markers, Friday, 16 May 2014 15:59 (twelve years ago)

can i ask about ibooks usage? anyone? just kindle?

markers, Friday, 16 May 2014 16:42 (twelve years ago)

i kindle. read some comics on the ipad using comic zeal.

socki (s1ocki), Friday, 16 May 2014 16:44 (twelve years ago)

I'm nearly all iBooks because the in-app search is miles better

stet, Friday, 16 May 2014 16:57 (twelve years ago)

oh fuck this noise apple http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/os-x-10.9.3-unhiding-your-users-directory

stet, Friday, 16 May 2014 17:00 (twelve years ago)

Is this the fastest-moving thread on ILX?

popchips: the next snapple? (seandalai), Friday, 16 May 2014 21:13 (twelve years ago)

I don't know. We should put down markers.

Alba, Friday, 16 May 2014 21:19 (twelve years ago)

jesus, he's pretty into apple products but that's going a bit far

socki (s1ocki), Friday, 16 May 2014 21:29 (twelve years ago)

He went to retire to an orchard among the apple trees

a strange man (mh), Friday, 16 May 2014 22:14 (twelve years ago)

has iBooks stopped being a piece of shit? Deeply insulted when it hid all my pdfs, fucked the metadata etc. Kindle & PDFexpert now. Turn epubs into mobis with calibre.

But all feels a bit inbetweeny, like something open and better and coherent is just a year or two away.

woof, Friday, 16 May 2014 22:22 (twelve years ago)

if they're moving away from ePub, they're taking their sweet ass time about it

Nhex, Friday, 16 May 2014 22:28 (twelve years ago)

Using iBooks for reading. Calibre for organization, de-DRMing, etc.

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 17 May 2014 00:11 (twelve years ago)


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