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and it's not something they've done to his own product lines

This might get semantic, but I kinda think the G4 Cube counts. He presented it as a whole new product line at the time - a fifth to complement the four, equal to PowerBook, Power Mac, iBook and iMac.

This was before the iPod, so it's not really right to say that "Mac" was the product line then - the whole company was only "Mac" at that point.

i said as much!

ipod mini, which was replaced. cube, which was not. hifi, which was a failed experiment. macbook, which was replaced with the air.

― markers, Wednesday, May 14, 2014 9:11 AM

the cube was a mac

look at apple's website: ipod, ipad, mac, iphone

i keep forgetting what argument you're trying to make here. the ipod classic is not a product but a product line unto itself? but the cube and ROKR aren't?

it was a new type of mac, but not a new line. it was like the shuffle or nano

i keep forgetting what argument you're trying to make here. the ipod classic is not a product but a product line unto itself? but the cube and ROKR aren't?

― socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, May 14, 2014 9:55 AM

the first two are products. the rokr is a weird case.

post-cleanup, apple has not killed a major product line.

i'll add that clarification, because you two are right that he did clean house, and i wasn't thinking of that

look at apple's website: ipod, ipad, mac, iphone

you mean Store iReview iTools iCards QuickTime?
https://web.archive.org/web/20001018025839/http://www.apple.com/

the first two are products. the rokr is a weird case.

Wait, what are you saying? They've killed products, they can kill the iPod Classic, right? iPod name is going to live on for the Touch for some time I reckon

wtf was iReview btw?

again, look at how apple structures its website: ipod, mac, iphone, and ipad are top line. all ipods go under ipod, all macs under mac, etc. apple tv doesn't get top level billing because it's traditionally been a "hobby," but now it at least gets that on their online store, and tim cook has even said something like "it's becoming increasingly hard to call it a hobby" or whatever

stet, the website as it exists now

not old versions.

i have no idea what the fuck ireview is

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IReview

ya but what is the point you are trying to make here about the ipod classic

lol thank you for bringing this little piece of apple history to our attention. i had no idea

ya but what is the point you are trying to make here about the ipod classic

― socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, May 14, 2014 10:01 AM

did i have one? if i did i don't remember

from what i can tell you are saying that apple wont kill it off because it doesnt kill off product lines. except that we have established that a) apple DOES kill off product lines and b) the ipod classic isnt even a product line unto itself

employment openings at Apple:

New Product Operations Program Manager - iPod - Hardware Engineering
New Product Operations Program Manager - iPod - Hardware Engineering (#2)
Technical Program Manager - iPod - Hardware Engineering

i don't think i'm making the argument you think i'm making. apple *hasn't* killed off a product line since jobs did cleanup. i'm not saying they won't do it in the future.

xpost interesting!

so i think we'd all be in agreement that at some point the ipod could disappear.

how would they go about doing that? i have no idea. maybe they would just kill the classic. maybe they would just keep around the touch. no idea.

speaking of dead product lines, you know what i never use anymore? my ipad smartcover.

the shuffle should go. It's embarassing.

how would they go about doing that?

i shouldn't have said this because it doesn't make sense when juxtaposed with my previous post. basically, the question is, would they kill the line outright or start killing individual products within it, and if they chose the former, how would they do that (press release? at an event? [not an event just for that obv]) and if they chose the latter, how would they go about doing *that*?

they would prob just quietly stop making them

speaking of dead product lines, you know what i never use anymore? my ipad smartcover.

― socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, May 14, 2014 10:06 AM

they're pretty good! i like mine. but those 5c cases were a mistake. mostly because the word iphone peeks through the holes in a weird way.

the shuffle should go. It's embarassing.

― Lee626, Wednesday, May 14, 2014 10:07 AM

does tim cook use that one? or a nano. he claims to use one of them for exercising.

must be the nano, the shuffle doesn't have a pedometer or Nike+ connectivity

xp that was the whole point of the 5c cases - mix and match phone colors and dots on the back

https://twitter.com/WhatTheBit/status/466579825906683904

xp that was the whole point of the 5c cases - mix and match phone colors and dots on the back

the holes weren't the problem

but those 5c cases were a mistake. mostly because the word iphone peeks through the holes in a weird way.

they shoud've found a way to do it and either cover up the word or let it show through completely.

hon

some would argue the 5c itself was a mistake.

i'd be fine with it except it's considerably heavier than than the 5 or 5s

some would argue the 5c itself was a mistake.

yes

https://twitter.com/WhatTheBit/status/466579825906683904

if you have *really* big hands you could still reach everything with your two thumbs i guess

it would be interesting if they did do an ipad pro. i don't know how well it'd sell. they killed the 17" macbook pro, which was an outlier, and i kinda feel like this would be an outlier too

i cant figure out how it would be "pro"

lets be honest here, the ipad is never going to be a "professional" machine.

apple bloggers like to crow about dudes finger-painting new yorker covers on them but it's never gonna be a dedicated work machine for an actual creative professional.

hahaha.

i cant figure out how it would be "pro"

― socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, May 14, 2014 10:22 AM

the size? a better processor? idk!

i've just heard they're working on it

maybe people can look at blueprints and shit on it and a bigger screen is better than that

who knows

would def have to be bigger

the only new hardware products it's obvious they're working on and will probably release that immediately come to mind are the iwatch and some sort of new apple tv box and/or set or whatever