everyone itt needs to read this if they haven't already:
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2005/04/host/303812/
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Friday, 9 May 2014 02:15 (ten years ago) link
heh i'm in the middle of d.t. max's bio right now
― markers, Friday, 9 May 2014 02:51 (ten years ago) link
Why is he selling coffee?
― *tera, Friday, 9 May 2014 22:16 (ten years ago) link
radio jocks gotta sell something
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Friday, 9 May 2014 22:35 (ten years ago) link
it's his favorite coffee!
― dylannn, Friday, 9 May 2014 22:56 (ten years ago) link
his on-air pitches are great, especially when he's taking the products on the air, his iodine pills and male vitality pills (only half the dose for alex because it's too powerful), his lung cleanse.
― dylannn, Friday, 9 May 2014 22:58 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPZbfwTU93A
― dylannn, Friday, 9 May 2014 23:00 (ten years ago) link
my favorite discovery from the regular guests is jordan maxwell, who is on some next level shit.
his favorite moves:
* BREAKING DOWN THE MEANING OF EVERYDAY WORDS... "if you want to build a two story house, and you want to put a lot of weight on the top floor, you need to go down and look at the first floor... you need to stand under to understand." / "romans used to have a sewer called the SYSTEM... now, we have school systems" and fake etymology of greek and latin words (like drawing a line between corpse and corporation last night)
* OFF WORLD ENTITIES FEEDING US INTELLIGENCE
* MISQUOTED BIBLE VERSES
someone has gone to the trouble of debunking him in an hourlong youtube video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKBCEBfIdCw
― dylannn, Friday, 9 May 2014 23:11 (ten years ago) link
"so, you have luke skywalker... LUKE skywalker is lucius and he does battle with the prince of darkness, whose name in the egyptian was SET, S-E-T-- he was called set because they noticed it got dark at sunSET"
― dylannn, Friday, 9 May 2014 23:15 (ten years ago) link
98% of all judaism is worship of the planet saturn.
― dylannn, Friday, 9 May 2014 23:16 (ten years ago) link
lol JORDAN "RUSTY" MAXWELL | ESOTERIC SCHOLAR
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_a6nx61GQrr8/SovG18qXVjI/AAAAAAAAAsg/SxqI2pLnRfE/s1600-h/Jordan+Maxwell+-+15+Videos.jpg
― balls, Friday, 9 May 2014 23:21 (ten years ago) link
jordan maxwell and miller ...
so, you have luke skywalker... LUKE skywalker is lucius and he does battle with the prince of darkness, whose name in the egyptian was SET, S-E-T-- he was called set because they noticed it got dark at sunSET
Miller: A lot o' people don't realize what's really going on. They view life as a bunch o' unconnected incidents 'n things. They don't realize that there's this, like, lattice o' coincidence that lays on top o' everything. Give you an example; show you what I mean: suppose you're thinkin' about a plate o' shrimp. Suddenly someone'll say, like, plate, or shrimp, or plate o' shrimp out of the blue, no explanation. No point in lookin' for one, either. It's all part of a cosmic unconciousness.Otto: You eat a lot of acid, Miller, back in the hippie days?Miller: I'll give you another instance: you know how everybody's into weirdness right now?...
Otto: You eat a lot of acid, Miller, back in the hippie days?
Miller: I'll give you another instance: you know how everybody's into weirdness right now?...
... bff.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-KF-eMrHcgQU/UIGsT73Jd7I/AAAAAAAAJyo/EWIzQorP91A/s1600/bff-cupcakes.jpg
― Daniel, Esq 2, Friday, 9 May 2014 23:22 (ten years ago) link
"if you want to build a two story house, and you want to put a lot of weight on the top floor, you need to go down and look at the first floor... you need to stand under to understand."
dude is heavily biting the 5%ers here
― Now I Am Become Dracula (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 9 May 2014 23:31 (ten years ago) link
I remember him with a megaphone on "the drag" in the early 90's.
― *tera, Saturday, 10 May 2014 04:49 (ten years ago) link
what is the drag?
― dylannn, Saturday, 10 May 2014 05:28 (ten years ago) link
It's the main street by UT Austin
― nitro-burning funny car (Moodles), Saturday, 10 May 2014 05:30 (ten years ago) link
That's in Slacker.
― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 10 May 2014 06:28 (ten years ago) link
my favorite alex jones theory is that NASA is covering up thousands of dead astronauts and something about unmanned guillotines in space or something.
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Saturday, 10 May 2014 06:37 (ten years ago) link
alex just used the phrase "bizarre satanic judo move"
― dylannn, Saturday, 10 May 2014 06:47 (ten years ago) link
Oh my god, I need to find this.
― Slumdog Baseballionaire (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 10 May 2014 07:18 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLUFm2HtTok
― dylannn, Saturday, 10 May 2014 07:29 (ten years ago) link
imagine buying nutritional supplements from Alex Jones. Being at that stage in your life.
― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 10 May 2014 07:34 (ten years ago) link
Thanks dylannn!
HIGH. LEVEL. KEY. MEN.
― Slumdog Baseballionaire (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 10 May 2014 07:36 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, this is what I meant. There's something in the weird hyper-obsession over words and sounding them out to get at a hidden gnosis or some shit that makes me wonder how much of this is manifested schizoid-ish behaviour.
― Stephen King's Threaderstarter (kingfish), Saturday, 10 May 2014 08:10 (ten years ago) link
his arms are so fat. they're like the most succulent sausages of all my dreams.
― it definitely wasn't designed to be a pants pocket player (stevie), Saturday, 10 May 2014 09:02 (ten years ago) link
he's also 98, 99% bullshit. i'm not going to get into it. i grew up in texas, folks. i grew up with people involved in bullshit programs when they were kids.
― it definitely wasn't designed to be a pants pocket player (stevie), Saturday, 10 May 2014 09:03 (ten years ago) link
Heh
― Slumdog Baseballionaire (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 10 May 2014 09:42 (ten years ago) link
Noticed the piles of Infowars magazines piled next to the Austin Chronicle in many of the stores in Austin.
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 10 May 2014 10:42 (ten years ago) link
earlier tonight, a middle aged white guy, snapbutton western shirt tucked into navy sweatpants, was in front of wal-mart handing out fliers about fluoridation of water. i tried to catch his eye on my way in. part of me thought hey, i wonder what new world order theory crew he's with, let's have a long chat about reptilians. but i reconsidered while buying my plastic tub of baby chard and on the way out i was going to breeze past him but he was already involved in a conversation with a suntanned couple pushing an aerodynamic baby stroller (probably antivacciners).
― dylannn, Saturday, 10 May 2014 10:59 (ten years ago) link
alex jones interviews a barrett 50 cal and immortal technique.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hUPdkxsOV8
― dylannn, Saturday, 10 May 2014 11:23 (ten years ago) link
Immortal Technique is a far better spokesperson for the hardcore antiestablishment wing, often worth a listen, even if he truths about more than is sometimes appropriate, haha
― verhzleyavbtreleambreb (imago), Saturday, 10 May 2014 11:36 (ten years ago) link
unmanned guillotines in space or something.
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Saturday, May 10, 2014 2:37 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark
Beautiful, beautiful image
― 龜, Saturday, 10 May 2014 12:51 (ten years ago) link
Immortal Technique was pretty cool... back when I was in junior high!!!
the Andrew Neil 'gnat swat' approach to Jones from 2013 is still classic
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/jun/09/andrew-neil-alex-jones-sunday-politics
― getting strange ass all around the globe (Neanderthal), Saturday, 10 May 2014 15:40 (ten years ago) link
― Slumdog Baseballionaire (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 10 May 2014 18:33 (ten years ago) link
“That is why today, when you get married, you get married before God. And the symbol of that God is the ring that is put on each other's fingers. The ring of Saturn. In the marriage phrases, one also begins to see what that has to do with Saturn. So when you get married, you get married with a ring and the symbol of that God is the ring, the ring of Saturn. You're wearing God's ring. And the yarmulke was the round ring that you wear on your head, for Saturn your God. Even in the middle ages, in the temples, Catholic monks would shave their heads in a round circle, and the Hebrews, instead of doing that, would wear the yarmulke. But it all had to do with the round rings of Saturn.”Jordan Maxwell, “Matrix of Power”
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/atlantean_conspiracy/atlantean_conspiracy37.htm
― dylannn, Monday, 12 May 2014 07:46 (ten years ago) link
The gods of ELohim are angELs, the messengers of god. When witches cast a speEL, they put the “Hex” (6) on someone, and when chefs deep fry something, they “Deep 6” it. It is the ELites who run the world today. Elite comes from the “IsraElites” which came from the Egyptian worship of the Moon (Isis), the Sun, (Ra), and Saturn (Elohim), hence IsRaEl. Jews and Muslims alike worship a huge black cube/box called Kabba at Mecca. Their god YHWH is known as the “Tetragramaton” meaning their 4 letter (4 sided?) God. The “Kabballah” of Jewish mysticism/Masonry comes from KabbaAllah or “CubeGod” around which people gather and ceremonially walk in circles. Thus it can be said they are “circling the square.” Masons are also constantly referring to “circling the square” and “squaring the circle.” For instance, this is why a “boxing” match is fought for “rounds” in the “ring” but it is actually a 4 sided square arena with corners.
Jews and Muslims alike worship a huge black cube/box called Kabba at Mecca. Their god YHWH is known as the “Tetragramaton” meaning their 4 letter (4 sided?) God. The “Kabballah” of Jewish mysticism/Masonry comes from KabbaAllah or “CubeGod” around which people gather and ceremonially walk in circles. Thus it can be said they are “circling the square.” Masons are also constantly referring to “circling the square” and “squaring the circle.” For instance, this is why a “boxing” match is fought for “rounds” in the “ring” but it is actually a 4 sided square arena with corners.
― dylannn, Monday, 12 May 2014 07:47 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, I remember reading something about this a while back. It's like some folks have an Aspergers-like condition where they need explicit D&D rulesets for real-life, and will create them themselves if they don't find any.
It's an chronic inability to handle any ambiguity, any uncertainty, any mystery, any possible discrepancy, so there's got to be a place for everything and everything in its place, with explicit, externally reinforced rules and purposes for everything.
― Stephen King's Threaderstarter (kingfish), Monday, 12 May 2014 15:20 (ten years ago) link
On a related note, the sovereign citizen movement
― Stephen King's Threaderstarter (kingfish), Monday, 12 May 2014 18:21 (ten years ago) link
It happens in lots of mental illnesses - mania, psychotic episodes, schizophrenia etc. There's a sense in which everything is significant, everything is linked together (even if it's as simple as having 2 letters in common in a word). It's surprisingly overwhelming. I speak of my own experience with psychotic episodes and mania - but mine are mostly autonomously generated, personal - I don't know what I would be like with a resource like online conspiracy theorists to direct the delusions.
― Try Leuchars More! (dowd), Monday, 12 May 2014 19:31 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYmIn1upo1c
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Monday, 12 May 2014 20:07 (ten years ago) link
Black is both Saturn’s color and Satan’s color. The black holy bible tells us Satan is 666. Saturn is the 6th planet, its symbol is a 6pointed star, it supposedly has hexagon weather formations, and Saturnday the 6th day, is Ozzy Osbourne’s “Black Sabbath.” Also highlighting this theme, the Rolling “Stones” sang Paint it Black, Paint it Blue, Blue Turns to Grey, Black Angel, XXX and Sympathy for the Devil. A bruise is black and blue; bruise like the He“brews” whose longstanding secret societies are orchestrating this blue/black agenda. The 6th chakra, the pineal gland, the 3rd eye (all the same thing) is usually represented with the color blue, but they seem intent on Painting it Black. The Stones’ lyrics go,“I see a red door and I want it painted black, no colors anymore I want them to turn black. No more will my green sea go turn a deeper blue … I want them to turn black.”When you’re hit you get a black eye (supposedly, though the bruise is usually other colors), but the real “black eye” is your 3rd eye; The chakra which should be colored blue, but they have changed to black. This most important organ has in recent centuries shrunk in size from about the size of a quarter, to the size of a pea. The Black Eyed Peas ironically sing a song called Third Eye with lyrics like,“I got three eyes, one look from the left side, the other from the right side, got one eye on the inside, and I can see you outside, plottin’ to come in.”Also in the same song,“If Bush is Pinocchio, who the hell is Gepetto? Beware of Gepetto. I could point out their behavior to keep y’immune from the poisonous flavor, but once you’re caught I can’t save ya, they’ll manipulate your mind so you enjoy danger.”The band Third Eye Blind has a song called Eye Conqueror.
― the portentous pepper (govern yourself accordingly), Monday, 12 May 2014 20:11 (ten years ago) link
Feel like a lot of the popularity of crazy conspiracy stuff these days is due to aging baby boomers who at one time were probably hippies or at least anti-authoritarian in some respects, who grew up in the 80s and had kids and started getting conservative, then eventually the kids leave the home around 2000s, 9/11 happens providing a whole new jolt for the conspiracy industry (biggest since JFK, possibly even bigger), hey here's a chance at your second adolescence, you're already gossiping and stuff w your friends on Facebook like you haven't done since you were in high school, also you are starting to slowly loose your mind as you get older, plus industry taking advantage of these people, who knows what they put in prescription drugs, the water supply, confusion about emerging technologies (boomers not growing up w computers the way millenial did), general distrust/rebellion, some latent embedded generational racism, mix it all up and wha-la. Senior Rebellion Phase.
Also in a funny way maybe this is also some kind of throwback to 70's occult explosion, pop culture nostalgia/historical revisionism has eaten up nearly everything previously derided as uncool in pop culture now we are quickly gnawing our way through unpop culture. Not culture but Cult. So esoteric stuff gets dug up and thrown together. Now if you read primary texts of this cult stuff they always warn about fooling with powers you don't understand and maybe the danger isn't that you will accidentally do a magic spell that turns your head into a tree but the misuse of symbols and subsequent commercialization of occult knowledge is creating a flood of misinformation, making it harder to tell what is true or not, flooding the world with things that sound more and more IMPORTANT and LIFE CHANGING and paradoxically making everything actually sound less and less like they make any sense or have anything to do with reality at all.
― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 12 May 2014 20:53 (ten years ago) link
It's certainly interesting that these people talk about their 'eye-opening' moments in pseudo-religious terms.
― Try Leuchars More! (dowd), Monday, 12 May 2014 22:40 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXHY8CZYJJw
second amendment hero + enemy of the illuminatiprodigy
― dylannn, Friday, 16 May 2014 11:51 (ten years ago) link
"you were going with the bling and uh... some of the nomenclature but... it was to attract them to the real message?"
― dylannn, Friday, 16 May 2014 11:54 (ten years ago) link
fuck this guy with a ton of bricks
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/05/guns-bullying-open-carry-women-moms-texas
the whole thing is worth reading (though it will make you angry); alex jones bit begins about 1/3 of the way through.
― display name changed. (amateurist), Monday, 19 May 2014 08:55 (ten years ago) link
it's impossible to listen for very long or hang out on the infowars site for very long and not realize that jones and his crew are racist evil hateful people. there's the dead astronauts silliness and the almost lefty anti-banks material but the whole outlook is still based on hatred.
i think the insane conspiracies about a race of supermen blasting off into space, pulling all the strings from a reptilian command center make it less likely, even less likely than other right wing radio guys, right wing fringe guys to be able to connect with moderate or rational but concerned people on the left or even the right. once you go down the conspiracy rabbit hole, there's no need to justify or explain theories because they all go back to a grand unified theory of globalist domination and there's no opportunity to talk about shared whatever...
― dylannn, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 13:36 (ten years ago) link
i think the description of above of some jones listeners as older failed anti-everything 50something 60somethings is accurate but i get the feeling that most listeners are more likely to be 18-35 types, and unlike those described boomers really internet savvy i guess in the opposite way not unsure how to filter various texts and sources or whatever but rather completely distrusting of everything. and if you're 18-35 you grew up in a world without a like... centralized? media voice, or a trust in the media... everything is fake! what's the real truth behind this?????? and the alex jones program, which is mostly recycling stuff... 1950s anticommunist pamphlets stormfront readings of turner diaries and protocols of the elders of zion aging white male panic endoftheworld panic evangelic radio preaching adbusters antibanks... and it all gets recycled into this incoherent but new to you mix of bullshit that appeals to disaffected young men that lived through the shock of sept 11 over a decade of war propaganda and lies being exposed. so that's why you even get people running through alex jones' program and getting to "hey, if all this is true, ALEX HIMSELF MIGHT BE A REPTILIAN/mossad agent/cia operative" and they go further and further down.
― dylannn, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 13:44 (ten years ago) link
True.
So much of conspiracist inclinations exhibited online or elsewhere strikes me not so much as "these people are stupid" as the kneejerk dismissal goes, but rather that "these people are victims" of either trauma or a destroyed culture or some authoritarian or marketer naturally taking advantage of them.
And this happens across the board with anybody of any subculture or political leaning.
This is balanced of course by the people who believe this stuff to justify their asshole inclinations/ideologies, but you get the idea.
― Stephen King's Threaderstarter (kingfish), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 16:20 (ten years ago) link