learn to enjoy the setup the same way you enjoy the rollercoaster creeping up to the top of the hill
― socki (s1ocki), Monday, 28 April 2014 16:20 (ten years ago) link
yeah i know but still
― lag∞n, Monday, 28 April 2014 16:21 (ten years ago) link
life can't all be payoffs, youd stop enjoying them
― socki (s1ocki), Monday, 28 April 2014 16:22 (ten years ago) link
No reason to have an entire episode of setup for every story, followed by a peak for every story, then setups, on and on. It's plagued the series since the beginning; give a payoff to one or two of the many story lines each week while setting up the others. It's really not hard.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 28 April 2014 16:27 (ten years ago) link
This may be extremely petty, but:
- Did this white walker feed the baby and keep it warm during their trek to the white walker lair? OR...- is the white walker lair extremely close for them to be able to slowly stroll there without the baby starving or sooner freezing to death? ALSO- Wasn't that the EXACT white walker that Sam murdered? I assume they aren't all clones.- Which is also the EXACT(?) white walker that we saw for the first time when Sam was hiding behind the rock- That being said, by the end of THAT scene he was totally surrounded by the undead army/white walkers. How the hell did he slip away again?
― Evan, Monday, 28 April 2014 16:32 (ten years ago) link
I can't think of anything worse than being trapped on a ship with creepy Long John Littlefinger
guh
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 28 April 2014 16:32 (ten years ago) link
yeah, writing one of the most popular and critically acclaimed shows on tv that also happens to be an adaptation of a massively involved fantasy series is definitely not that hard
― socki (s1ocki), Monday, 28 April 2014 16:33 (ten years ago) link
― socki (s1ocki), Monday, April 28, 2014 12:22 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
gosh i said i know
― lag∞n, Monday, 28 April 2014 16:35 (ten years ago) link
― Evan, Monday, April 28, 2014 12:32 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
it was magical prob
― lag∞n, Monday, 28 April 2014 16:36 (ten years ago) link
― sitting on a claud all day gotta make your butt numb (forksclovetofu), Monday, 28 April 2014 16:36 (ten years ago) link
I'll take it
xp
― Evan, Monday, 28 April 2014 16:43 (ten years ago) link
I am really being worn down by this show's insistence on shorthanding evil via sexual violence. Also I may never be able to watch season two of Torchwood again.
― chillin' on an "awesome pretzel" hoagie (DJP), Monday, 28 April 2014 16:46 (ten years ago) link
yeah, given all the attention for the cersei/jaime scene last week, it's surprising that few people on the interview seem to have taken issue with last night's episode, especially the part where women are being raped and the really creepy guy is talking about them being raped until they die.
― Karl Malone, Monday, 28 April 2014 16:51 (ten years ago) link
Well, that is largely because the dude doing the raping is supposed to be a mustache-twirling unambiguous Bad Guy and therefore rape is to be expected from him.
― chillin' on an "awesome pretzel" hoagie (DJP), Monday, 28 April 2014 16:55 (ten years ago) link
Yes but the rapists were not characters the audience wanted to like so its all good
― How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 April 2014 16:56 (ten years ago) link
Xp
Jaime, OTOH, was going through a redemption of sorts due to the revelation of extra information about the circumstances behind his murder of Aerys and his journey with Brienne; anti-heroes and reformed scoundrels aren't supposed to rape their sisters, that's a fundamental violation of American storytelling rules.
― chillin' on an "awesome pretzel" hoagie (DJP), Monday, 28 April 2014 16:58 (ten years ago) link
Most of that outcry was a "how dare you make me like this rapist" reaction IMO as opposed to people actually objecting to the seeming escalation of the depiction of rape on this show.
― chillin' on an "awesome pretzel" hoagie (DJP), Monday, 28 April 2014 16:59 (ten years ago) link
I super-disagree with that, maybe it's just the (tumblr) circles I travel in but the reaction I saw were "this is the worst of an increasingly disturbing number of decisions to depict gratuitous violence against women."
― reddening, Monday, 28 April 2014 17:07 (ten years ago) link
I am talking more about my perception of the mainstream reaction to that scene than anything else.
― chillin' on an "awesome pretzel" hoagie (DJP), Monday, 28 April 2014 17:20 (ten years ago) link
i was pretty taken aback by the white walker ritual stuff i guess from the books i never would have assumed they had a culture/society/religion or anything, basically i read them as high functioning zombies basically
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 28 April 2014 18:08 (ten years ago) link
It's fairly well-established in the books that while the wights are the (high-functioning) zombies, the actual Others/WWs themselves are culturally distinct (think of the circle of innards they make in the prologue -- don't remember if that happened in the books or the show only).
― Call the Doctorb, the B is for Brownstein (Leee), Monday, 28 April 2014 18:10 (ten years ago) link
felt like whole baby sequence was trolling
― How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 April 2014 18:28 (ten years ago) link
especially at the very end when the babys eyse went blue and it turned toward the camera like LOL OWNED
― lag∞n, Monday, 28 April 2014 18:31 (ten years ago) link
I guess maybe the idea is that we were expecting the white walkers to be motivated by kind of ghostly evil compulsions, rather than just some sort of evil race with a culture/home.
― Evan, Monday, 28 April 2014 18:31 (ten years ago) link
Wasn't that the EXACT white walker
Presumably all the younger ones are Craster's sons. There might be a family resemblance.
― Congratulations! And my condolences. (Sanpaku), Monday, 28 April 2014 19:02 (ten years ago) link
motivated by kind of ghostly evil compulsions
no other motivation really makes sense imo
― How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 April 2014 19:15 (ten years ago) link
can we get some kind of arnold-as-mr. freeze/white walker mash up somehow?
― ian, Monday, 28 April 2014 19:19 (ten years ago) link
the white walkers turn out to be actually the good guys?
― lag∞n, Monday, 28 April 2014 19:19 (ten years ago) link
They understand the threat that climate change poses to the planet.
― Call the Doctorb, the B is for Brownstein (Leee), Monday, 28 April 2014 19:21 (ten years ago) link
i am ze vite valker ... remember ze name for it iz ze chillink sount of your dooooooom
― sitting on a claud all day gotta make your butt numb (forksclovetofu), Monday, 28 April 2014 19:29 (ten years ago) link
+1 for getting sick of all the gratuitous rapeyness. We get it. Move it to off-camera.
― schwantz, Monday, 28 April 2014 19:32 (ten years ago) link
― How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, April 28, 2014 6:28 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
think the trailer for Damon Lindelof's new show before the episode was key to the direction GoT wants to go with this mythology shit
― Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Monday, 28 April 2014 20:04 (ten years ago) link
sure fuckin hope not, that thing looks ridiculous
― sitting on a claud all day gotta make your butt numb (forksclovetofu), Monday, 28 April 2014 20:08 (ten years ago) link
So is the baby gonna stay a baby or is it gonna grow
If white walkers can grow then why don't the horses just grow a new face
― 龜, Monday, 28 April 2014 23:36 (ten years ago) link
Wizard (named Sam).
― Call the Doctorb, the B is for Brownstein (Leee), Monday, 28 April 2014 23:37 (ten years ago) link
Er... Because the horses are not white walkers. Xpost
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Monday, 28 April 2014 23:38 (ten years ago) link
Yah... they're white gallopers!!
― 龜, Monday, 28 April 2014 23:38 (ten years ago) link
the horses choose not to?
― lag∞n, Monday, 28 April 2014 23:39 (ten years ago) link
The horses are wights. They died and the white walkers are able to bring them back. I think.
― mizzell, Monday, 28 April 2014 23:43 (ten years ago) link
― Call the Doctorb, the B is for Brownstein (Leee), Tuesday, April 29, 2014 2:10 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark
I think I totally missed this part in the books
― 龜, Monday, 28 April 2014 23:45 (ten years ago) link
It's entirely possible I'm mixing up the show and the books, tbh.
― Call the Doctorb, the B is for Brownstein (Leee), Monday, 28 April 2014 23:55 (ten years ago) link
― EZ Snappin, Monday, April 28, 2014 12:27 PM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ugh, it's like an accepted thing now esp in Critically Acclaimed Hour-long Dramas that an episode is either allowed to be setup or payoff. like 80% of the episode reviews on the avclub include the line "this was a transitional episode, but..."
part of it is lazy viewership most of it is these shows/media/promotional material training us to only give a shit about different-colored weddings
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 01:56 (ten years ago) link
i think there was an entire season worth of breaking bad episodes that were described as "transitional"
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 01:57 (ten years ago) link
are there gonna be more different colored weddings tho
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 02:05 (ten years ago) link
brown wedding
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 02:12 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAZQaYKZMTI
― 龜, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 02:13 (ten years ago) link
https://p.gr-assets.com/75x/scale/books/1348793736/5994288.jpg
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 03:00 (ten years ago) link
Man, the Tyrrells are good. When it comes to scheming and machinations everyone else in this is an amateur by comparison, no one even suspects them of anything. Maybe the Spider does, but he's slipping.
I don't understand/can't remember the motivations of anyone who mutinied beyond the wall or what they're intending to gain from this. Doesn't help that I glaze over the snow scenes when there aren't White Walkers around, because the only main characters are involved are John Snow and Sam and they are both terrible and boring.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 11:22 (ten years ago) link
Oh yeah when did Ghost get caught
― 龜, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 11:23 (ten years ago) link