The Wolf of Wall Street (new Scorsese)

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I wonder who Coach will play in the monk movie

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 14:22 (ten years ago) link

if it's the art monk movie, he should play "coach"

christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 16:21 (ten years ago) link

Coach was wonderful in The Spectacular Now.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 16:25 (ten years ago) link

otm

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 16:36 (ten years ago) link

I lasted about 4 minutes with The Spewctacular Now

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 16:37 (ten years ago) link

the spewtacular not now

christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 16:39 (ten years ago) link

u_u

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 16:44 (ten years ago) link

Those are probably the worst four minutes of that film, fwiw.

Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 16:55 (ten years ago) link

Coach's scenes? gtfo

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 17:26 (ten years ago) link

No, the opening sequence.

Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 17:36 (ten years ago) link

well, yeah

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 18:15 (ten years ago) link

the unspectacular then

espring (amateurist), Thursday, 24 April 2014 07:33 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

Genuinely shocked at how enjoyable this was

Οὖτις, Saturday, 24 May 2014 20:33 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

Genuinely shocked at how terrible this was

resulting post (rogermexico.), Saturday, 12 July 2014 06:19 (ten years ago) link

yeah, it was ultimately kinda boring.

but loud boring

resulting post (rogermexico.), Saturday, 12 July 2014 06:44 (ten years ago) link

i'm more shocked at the number of smart ppl who can't recognize its badness.

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 12 July 2014 09:11 (ten years ago) link

I'm just genuinely shocked

cpt navajo (darraghmac), Saturday, 12 July 2014 11:46 (ten years ago) link

I'm just shockingly genuine.

Cronk's Not Cronk (Eric H.), Saturday, 12 July 2014 15:47 (ten years ago) link

i think everybody recognises this film's 'badness' - it is a brash film almost fully dedicated to cataloguing badness - & thinks it employs it meaningfully

schlump, Saturday, 12 July 2014 17:16 (ten years ago) link

More meaningfully than in Goodfellas at any rate.

Cronk's Not Cronk (Eric H.), Saturday, 12 July 2014 17:29 (ten years ago) link

& thinks it employs it meaningfully

Not everybody, schlump.

clemenza, Sunday, 13 July 2014 01:58 (ten years ago) link

This is a great movie & u r all insane

rap steve gadd (D-40), Sunday, 13 July 2014 03:52 (ten years ago) link

Martin Scorsese made a bonafide "polarizing" movie that's three hours long and did big box office. In 2013.

da croupier, Sunday, 13 July 2014 14:37 (ten years ago) link

d-40 otm

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Sunday, 13 July 2014 17:02 (ten years ago) link

omar little otm

socki (s1ocki), Monday, 14 July 2014 01:37 (ten years ago) link

so long as "Road House" falls into the great movie category, i'm a-ok with this

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Monday, 14 July 2014 02:12 (ten years ago) link

Obviously. I mean, there's "didn't like Wolf of Wall Street" crazy and "not a normal human being" crazy.

Cronk's Not Cronk (Eric H.), Monday, 14 July 2014 03:03 (ten years ago) link

wwbf otm

balls, Monday, 14 July 2014 03:20 (ten years ago) link

A small point, I suppose, but was anybody bothered by the cerebral palsy joke?

― clemenza, Monday, December 30, 2013 10:06 PM (6 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

LOLs @ crips seem to be Marty's thing lately (see also: Hugo)

You know something? He *did* say "well, yeah" a lot. (cryptosicko), Saturday, 19 July 2014 19:24 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

liked this movie in general although i'm not sure what it contributes to the depiction of the finance industry in american cinema. want to add that the cerebral palsy joke was bad, but also bad was the scene where they were discussing little people who they planned to exploit for entertainment in the office (throwing them at targets, stuff like that). donny puts forth a bunch of painful stereotypes that he believes about them. this is clearly meant to show donny as an idiot but, for the audience, this is played for lols and i don't think the movie really registers that fact that what he is saying is not only ignorant but hurtful.

Treeship, Saturday, 23 August 2014 06:23 (ten years ago) link

i guess this is all part of the risk of "glamorization". by telling the stories of these people from their perspective, more or less, you wind up reproducing their shitty attitudes. the misogyny in this film was unbelievable, and i know it was formally all in the name of criticizing it, but still, i'm not sure how strong of a critique the movie offered to the culture. like, treating women as depersonalized status objects is shown to be "empty" like other forms of consumerism, but is this really a feminist critique? the reason you're not supposed to think and act like that is because it is oppressive, not because it impoverishes your own experience as a man.

but then, maybe that's the point of the film. even in hindsight, jordan doesn't really think about any of his victims. the massive fraud scheme he perpetrated winds up being bad because it lands him in prison, not because it financially devastates a bunch of naive investors. maybe scorsese's brave. he's sticking with his narrator and his perspective, no matter how it looks.

Treeship, Saturday, 23 August 2014 06:37 (ten years ago) link

donny puts forth a bunch of painful stereotypes that he believes about them. this is clearly meant to show donny as an idiot but, for the audience, this is played for lols and i don't think the movie really registers that fact that what he is saying is not only ignorant but hurtful.

in this scene they are legalistically hammering out the terms by which they may brutalize+exploit these people: literal little people. it's all right, they explain to each other, because these people were made for this role; they enjoy fulfilling it, just as the people in the conference room enjoy fulfilling theirs. there is no power differential; there is only a Deal. the total absence of any kind of standard or metric or way-of-seeing beyond capital is made even clearer when rob reiner, voice of parental authority, bursts into the room apoplectically shouting because leo&co have done a terrible thing: they have wasted money. this is all played for uncomfortable un-pc lols yes but it also rly clear where these people's values come from. there might be some unnecessary donny lines i've forgotten about but the scene itself is pretty central i thought, even if i found it rly unpleasant too.

agree that the movie's not much for feminist critique. i thought it was brave in that it remained imo a polemic Against this stuff but also thoroughly understood+communicated its power -- not just superficial attractions like hookers and blow but the power to lie your way to a new self, to conjure up yr desires with words that you read off paper like spells. that last shot of the expectant, yearning faces, the congregation. no one knows how to love+hate a church like a catholic.

difficult listening hour, Saturday, 23 August 2014 08:58 (ten years ago) link

idk if it needed to be eight hours long or whatever, not submitting an opinion on that.

difficult listening hour, Saturday, 23 August 2014 09:02 (ten years ago) link

movie was great entertainment idk if the views expressed therein were salutary warnings or str8 lols if I get a chance to ask scorsese I will check 4u but caveat emptor he may lie or not know himself or be fooling himself or have tried for one thing but have gotten it wrong and even then any of the actors might have taken his instructions and intentionally or in error misconstrued and have performed their parts ironically or unironically against Marty's will in short this movie was great entertainment don't use it as a primer you should make it thru lyfe ok

nakh is the wintour of our diss content (darraghmac), Saturday, 23 August 2014 09:06 (ten years ago) link

I don't necessarily believe that Scorsese is anti-feminist, although his recent depictions of disabilities is irresponsible and frequently mean, but with its non-stop scenes of debauchery and minuscule attention paid to consequences, I do wonder about the film's potential to serve as a training manual for Future Douchebags of America.

MaudAddam (cryptosicko), Saturday, 23 August 2014 15:58 (ten years ago) link

Like real life NJ mafia using Goodfellas as a guide

, Saturday, 23 August 2014 16:01 (ten years ago) link

or john hinckley and taxi driver

da croupier, Saturday, 23 August 2014 16:18 (ten years ago) link

thought it was brave in that it remained imo a polemic Against this stuff but also thoroughly understood+communicated its power -- not just superficial attractions like hookers and blow but the power to lie your way to a new self, to conjure up yr desires with words that you read off paper like spells. that last shot of the expectant, yearning faces, the congregation. no one knows how to love+hate a church like a catholic.

otm. terry southern supposedly told kubrick that eyes wide shut would play better as a farce and kubrick freaked out. i'm glad marty doesn't have to be told.

da croupier, Saturday, 23 August 2014 16:23 (ten years ago) link

it's just funny that martin scorsese has been making comedies about psychopathic american behavior for forty years, all full of uncomfortable improvisation, and the same concerns and grievances come up each time like he's suddenly gone sour

da croupier, Saturday, 23 August 2014 16:34 (ten years ago) link

this is a guy who had robert deniro harassing liza minnelli over and over and over for minutes at the beginning of his homage to studio musicals

da croupier, Saturday, 23 August 2014 16:36 (ten years ago) link

Now THAT was funny!

It's Autumn Sunrise (Eric H.), Saturday, 23 August 2014 16:39 (ten years ago) link

it was! uncomfortable sure, but i guarantee scorsese was laughing, seeing how long they could keep the scene going

da croupier, Saturday, 23 August 2014 16:42 (ten years ago) link

saw the quualade scene again, never noticed before how the number of stairs keeps changing

da croupier, Saturday, 23 August 2014 16:49 (ten years ago) link

sorry i mean qualudde

da croupier, Saturday, 23 August 2014 16:49 (ten years ago) link

I do wonder about the film's potential to serve as a training manual for Future Douchebags of America.

Don't forget Douchebags from Overseas coming to NYC assuming this is how they're gonna live.

the one where, as balls alludes (Eazy), Saturday, 23 August 2014 17:11 (ten years ago) link

There's a great Paul Haggis / Iñárritu comedy-drama to be made about some UAE bros who divide into ISIS soldiers and Wolf of Wall Street disciples.

the one where, as balls alludes (Eazy), Saturday, 23 August 2014 17:13 (ten years ago) link

btw the moment i finally decided to see this movie was vgrrl's post

one of my favorite scenes/moments that has been stuck in my head for the last few days is when Leo's first wife finds him in the limo with the duchess chick, when they're standing on the sidewalk in front of the hotel/casino and there's that repeated shot of them from across the street where it's just this huge wall of reflective brass and windows and lights and him looking defeated and her with her hands on her hips

I love it

― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, April 16, 2014 2:53 PM (4 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

but i had to rewatch it to notice it's trump tower

difficult listening hour, Saturday, 23 August 2014 19:45 (ten years ago) link

There's a great Paul Haggis / Iñárritu comedy-drama to be made about some UAE bros who divide into ISIS soldiers and Wolf of Wall Street disciples.

― the one where, as balls alludes (Eazy)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKcAYMb5uk4

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 23 August 2014 19:55 (ten years ago) link

i think everybody recognises this film's 'badness' - it is a brash film almost fully dedicated to cataloguing badness

yeah very obv not what i fucking meant

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 23 August 2014 23:40 (ten years ago) link


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