https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-Md3sFW4AM
― 龜, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 02:47 (ten years ago) link
def. fewer bikini models in the real thing.
also the scene with coach taylor is definitely the best movie convo of the year
who is coach taylor?
― espring (amateurist), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 04:08 (ten years ago) link
friday night lights
cmon mayne
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 04:09 (ten years ago) link
never seen it
― espring (amateurist), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 05:20 (ten years ago) link
but oh yeah, that was the best scene for sure. where they meet on belfort's yacht?
ya
― socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 13:55 (ten years ago) link
you should watch FNL ams
― socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 13:56 (ten years ago) link
That scene is some script judo, just flipping it.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 14:14 (ten years ago) link
its all about coach's eyes in that scene
― socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 14:21 (ten years ago) link
I wonder who Coach will play in the monk movie
― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 14:22 (ten years ago) link
if it's the art monk movie, he should play "coach"
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 16:21 (ten years ago) link
Coach was wonderful in The Spectacular Now.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 16:25 (ten years ago) link
otm
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 16:36 (ten years ago) link
I lasted about 4 minutes with The Spewctacular Now
― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 16:37 (ten years ago) link
the spewtacular not now
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 16:39 (ten years ago) link
u_u
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 16:44 (ten years ago) link
Those are probably the worst four minutes of that film, fwiw.
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 16:55 (ten years ago) link
Coach's scenes? gtfo
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 17:26 (ten years ago) link
No, the opening sequence.
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 17:36 (ten years ago) link
well, yeah
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 18:15 (ten years ago) link
the unspectacular then
― espring (amateurist), Thursday, 24 April 2014 07:33 (ten years ago) link
Genuinely shocked at how enjoyable this was
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 24 May 2014 20:33 (ten years ago) link
Genuinely shocked at how terrible this was
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Saturday, 12 July 2014 06:19 (ten years ago) link
yeah, it was ultimately kinda boring.
― Look at this joke I've recognised, do you recognise it as well? (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 12 July 2014 06:37 (ten years ago) link
but loud boring
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Saturday, 12 July 2014 06:44 (ten years ago) link
i'm more shocked at the number of smart ppl who can't recognize its badness.
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 12 July 2014 09:11 (ten years ago) link
I'm just genuinely shocked
― cpt navajo (darraghmac), Saturday, 12 July 2014 11:46 (ten years ago) link
I'm just shockingly genuine.
― Cronk's Not Cronk (Eric H.), Saturday, 12 July 2014 15:47 (ten years ago) link
i think everybody recognises this film's 'badness' - it is a brash film almost fully dedicated to cataloguing badness - & thinks it employs it meaningfully
― schlump, Saturday, 12 July 2014 17:16 (ten years ago) link
More meaningfully than in Goodfellas at any rate.
― Cronk's Not Cronk (Eric H.), Saturday, 12 July 2014 17:29 (ten years ago) link
& thinks it employs it meaningfully
Not everybody, schlump.
― clemenza, Sunday, 13 July 2014 01:58 (ten years ago) link
This is a great movie & u r all insane
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Sunday, 13 July 2014 03:52 (ten years ago) link
Martin Scorsese made a bonafide "polarizing" movie that's three hours long and did big box office. In 2013.
― da croupier, Sunday, 13 July 2014 14:37 (ten years ago) link
d-40 otm
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Sunday, 13 July 2014 17:02 (ten years ago) link
omar little otm
― socki (s1ocki), Monday, 14 July 2014 01:37 (ten years ago) link
so long as "Road House" falls into the great movie category, i'm a-ok with this
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Monday, 14 July 2014 02:12 (ten years ago) link
Obviously. I mean, there's "didn't like Wolf of Wall Street" crazy and "not a normal human being" crazy.
― Cronk's Not Cronk (Eric H.), Monday, 14 July 2014 03:03 (ten years ago) link
wwbf otm
― balls, Monday, 14 July 2014 03:20 (ten years ago) link
A small point, I suppose, but was anybody bothered by the cerebral palsy joke?
― clemenza, Monday, December 30, 2013 10:06 PM (6 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
LOLs @ crips seem to be Marty's thing lately (see also: Hugo)
― You know something? He *did* say "well, yeah" a lot. (cryptosicko), Saturday, 19 July 2014 19:24 (ten years ago) link
liked this movie in general although i'm not sure what it contributes to the depiction of the finance industry in american cinema. want to add that the cerebral palsy joke was bad, but also bad was the scene where they were discussing little people who they planned to exploit for entertainment in the office (throwing them at targets, stuff like that). donny puts forth a bunch of painful stereotypes that he believes about them. this is clearly meant to show donny as an idiot but, for the audience, this is played for lols and i don't think the movie really registers that fact that what he is saying is not only ignorant but hurtful.
― Treeship, Saturday, 23 August 2014 06:23 (ten years ago) link
i guess this is all part of the risk of "glamorization". by telling the stories of these people from their perspective, more or less, you wind up reproducing their shitty attitudes. the misogyny in this film was unbelievable, and i know it was formally all in the name of criticizing it, but still, i'm not sure how strong of a critique the movie offered to the culture. like, treating women as depersonalized status objects is shown to be "empty" like other forms of consumerism, but is this really a feminist critique? the reason you're not supposed to think and act like that is because it is oppressive, not because it impoverishes your own experience as a man.
but then, maybe that's the point of the film. even in hindsight, jordan doesn't really think about any of his victims. the massive fraud scheme he perpetrated winds up being bad because it lands him in prison, not because it financially devastates a bunch of naive investors. maybe scorsese's brave. he's sticking with his narrator and his perspective, no matter how it looks.
― Treeship, Saturday, 23 August 2014 06:37 (ten years ago) link
donny puts forth a bunch of painful stereotypes that he believes about them. this is clearly meant to show donny as an idiot but, for the audience, this is played for lols and i don't think the movie really registers that fact that what he is saying is not only ignorant but hurtful.
in this scene they are legalistically hammering out the terms by which they may brutalize+exploit these people: literal little people. it's all right, they explain to each other, because these people were made for this role; they enjoy fulfilling it, just as the people in the conference room enjoy fulfilling theirs. there is no power differential; there is only a Deal. the total absence of any kind of standard or metric or way-of-seeing beyond capital is made even clearer when rob reiner, voice of parental authority, bursts into the room apoplectically shouting because leo&co have done a terrible thing: they have wasted money. this is all played for uncomfortable un-pc lols yes but it also rly clear where these people's values come from. there might be some unnecessary donny lines i've forgotten about but the scene itself is pretty central i thought, even if i found it rly unpleasant too.
agree that the movie's not much for feminist critique. i thought it was brave in that it remained imo a polemic Against this stuff but also thoroughly understood+communicated its power -- not just superficial attractions like hookers and blow but the power to lie your way to a new self, to conjure up yr desires with words that you read off paper like spells. that last shot of the expectant, yearning faces, the congregation. no one knows how to love+hate a church like a catholic.
― difficult listening hour, Saturday, 23 August 2014 08:58 (ten years ago) link
idk if it needed to be eight hours long or whatever, not submitting an opinion on that.
― difficult listening hour, Saturday, 23 August 2014 09:02 (ten years ago) link
movie was great entertainment idk if the views expressed therein were salutary warnings or str8 lols if I get a chance to ask scorsese I will check 4u but caveat emptor he may lie or not know himself or be fooling himself or have tried for one thing but have gotten it wrong and even then any of the actors might have taken his instructions and intentionally or in error misconstrued and have performed their parts ironically or unironically against Marty's will in short this movie was great entertainment don't use it as a primer you should make it thru lyfe ok
― nakh is the wintour of our diss content (darraghmac), Saturday, 23 August 2014 09:06 (ten years ago) link
I don't necessarily believe that Scorsese is anti-feminist, although his recent depictions of disabilities is irresponsible and frequently mean, but with its non-stop scenes of debauchery and minuscule attention paid to consequences, I do wonder about the film's potential to serve as a training manual for Future Douchebags of America.
― MaudAddam (cryptosicko), Saturday, 23 August 2014 15:58 (ten years ago) link
Like real life NJ mafia using Goodfellas as a guide
― 龜, Saturday, 23 August 2014 16:01 (ten years ago) link
or john hinckley and taxi driver
― da croupier, Saturday, 23 August 2014 16:18 (ten years ago) link
thought it was brave in that it remained imo a polemic Against this stuff but also thoroughly understood+communicated its power -- not just superficial attractions like hookers and blow but the power to lie your way to a new self, to conjure up yr desires with words that you read off paper like spells. that last shot of the expectant, yearning faces, the congregation. no one knows how to love+hate a church like a catholic.
otm. terry southern supposedly told kubrick that eyes wide shut would play better as a farce and kubrick freaked out. i'm glad marty doesn't have to be told.
― da croupier, Saturday, 23 August 2014 16:23 (ten years ago) link
it's just funny that martin scorsese has been making comedies about psychopathic american behavior for forty years, all full of uncomfortable improvisation, and the same concerns and grievances come up each time like he's suddenly gone sour
― da croupier, Saturday, 23 August 2014 16:34 (ten years ago) link
this is a guy who had robert deniro harassing liza minnelli over and over and over for minutes at the beginning of his homage to studio musicals
― da croupier, Saturday, 23 August 2014 16:36 (ten years ago) link