salon vs. slate vs. atlantic

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god all three of these are so bad now it's like a reverse sophie's choice.

ryan, Monday, 21 April 2014 20:28 (ten years ago) link

that's such an evidence-nerd slight, calling out questionable argumentation with the word 'fun'

j., Monday, 21 April 2014 21:08 (ten years ago) link

vox + 538 both make these 3 look good. well not salon. that's pretty much unredeemable atm.

Mordy , Monday, 21 April 2014 22:14 (ten years ago) link

pareene is far from the worst thing at salon but even he isn't doing any original reporting, just snark + salon in-house political style + sprinkle the word privilege liberally throughout

snarky sure but this is pretty good

http://www.salon.com/2014/04/22/blow_up_the_times_op_ed_page_and_start_again_why_friedman_brooks_and_dowd_must_go/

maybe ap will be the next one to jump up?

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 16:18 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

lol who on earth would want to pay $5/mo for slate plus

j., Wednesday, 4 June 2014 19:39 (nine years ago) link

It almost seems like a #slatepitch-- No one will pay for it, which is why it will make us millions

relentlessly pecking at peace (President Keyes), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 19:42 (nine years ago) link

who knows, maybe their internal numbers show ppl looooove to try to be smarter than dave weigel or whatever, gain troy patterson's insights, etc.

j., Wednesday, 4 June 2014 19:43 (nine years ago) link

what does the "plus" stand for?

ryan, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 19:44 (nine years ago) link

is there any online publication, or can one even be imagined, that is so good that its subscription only content (which somehow seems like second-tier content by way of its own exclusivity) would actually entice a person to pay for it?

ryan, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 19:46 (nine years ago) link

i dunno, the times invaahted me to sample its new paywalled recipe thing, it seems relatively decent, but i don't know why i wouldn't just buy a cookbook, or fuckin google recipes that are out there for the taking

j., Wednesday, 4 June 2014 19:55 (nine years ago) link

#2003ideas

₴HABΔZZ ¶IZZΔ (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 19:56 (nine years ago) link

seems like second-tier content by way of its own exclusivity
never thought of it like this before but totally otm

sktsh, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 19:57 (nine years ago) link

i am proud to say that i dont even hate read any of these three anymore.

ryan, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 20:00 (nine years ago) link

I feel like all three of these have really cheapened their brands over the years, and I no longer think of any of them as a place to go for Smart Writing On The Internet. Or maybe my standards have just been raised.

₴HABΔZZ ¶IZZΔ (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 20:04 (nine years ago) link

They all seem like victims of the clickbait arms race, though maybe not as much as huffpo.

₴HABΔZZ ¶IZZΔ (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 20:05 (nine years ago) link

slate is still managing to practice journalism, it's just that i have a hard time imagining wanting to go back to any of their stories except out of a specific interest, like if i wanted to look up opinions in-the-moment on some topic later. but rarely because i think like, damn, that one really said something.

salon, just garbage. repetitive too! how many ndgt-fights-creationist stories do they need? or sex abuse personal narratives, whatever.

the atlantic is grinding away at the bases of its dominance but at least it's still aiming for the top.

j., Wednesday, 4 June 2014 20:12 (nine years ago) link

feel like the true metric is which of these three has the best tv recappers now.

ryan, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 20:14 (nine years ago) link

huffpo has pretty much always been garbage

marcos, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 20:16 (nine years ago) link

I'm a Fred Kaplan stan, though I have to search for his articles since of course they'll never been most read or anything.

That's So (Eazy), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 20:17 (nine years ago) link

atlantic still has a few good writers to keep it at the top. salon and slate are worthless

marcos, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 20:17 (nine years ago) link

is there any online publication, or can one even be imagined, that is so good that its subscription only content (which somehow seems like second-tier content by way of its own exclusivity) would actually entice a person to pay for it?

new yorker is maybe the only thing i'd be willing to pay for. but i still don't.

nytimes pricewall can be avoided by reopening the link in a private browsing window

marcos, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 20:18 (nine years ago) link

New Yorker is worth paying for--but I don't think of that as an online publication

relentlessly pecking at peace (President Keyes), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 22:20 (nine years ago) link

I've recently even stopped following the rss feed for slate. It was never that great, but there used to occasionally be a story that would interest me. Lately even just glancing at the article titles has been too much for me.

I still like their sports podcast though.

silverfish, Thursday, 5 June 2014 00:59 (nine years ago) link

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/06/an-office-for-introverts/372130/

ouch


PunkRockOldLady • 9 hours ago

While the sound-proofing is a great idea, all that glass would make me feel like I was in an aquarium.

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Steelcase PunkRockOldLady • 7 hours ago

Thanks for joining the conversation around this important issue! We created these conceptual renderings with clear glass for demonstration of the spaces within the walls only. https://twitter.com/Steelcase/... shows a different version of the rendering with a mostly opaque film applied to the glass. Hope that helps!
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Lee Viola Steelcase • 5 hours ago

Is this an ad? Is it ethical for you to respond to readers' comments and do a sales job? Is the author receiving commissions for running this piece?

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Steelcase Lee Viola • 5 hours ago

We are just responding to confusion around the pictures, which we provided for the article. Not an ad.
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Lee Viola Steelcase • 41 minutes ago

Why are you responding and not the author of the article? This is unethical. You ARE advertising. I hope journalism reviews catch onto this scam. The editors of the Atlantic should be ashamed.

j., Thursday, 5 June 2014 01:41 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

http://i61.tinypic.com/2s8iref.png

Mordy, Friday, 20 June 2014 10:57 (nine years ago) link

I despise Slate magazine at this stage. the latest World Cup articles are wretched stuff.

everyday sheeple (Michael B), Friday, 20 June 2014 11:34 (nine years ago) link

salon VS slate on twitter = tawdry clickbait death match. just by reading the headlines I've learned a LOT about my penis

zombie formalist (m coleman), Friday, 20 June 2014 12:17 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

oh what the hell

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 15:42 (nine years ago) link

?

Now you're messing with a (President Keyes), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 15:54 (nine years ago) link

five months pass...

jesus fuck

https://twitter.com/blippoblappo/status/562283289986486273

goole, Monday, 2 February 2015 23:28 (nine years ago) link

looks like any old day at Slate tbh

ancient texts, things that can't be pre-dated (President Keyes), Tuesday, 3 February 2015 02:07 (nine years ago) link

haven't read her piece but Dana Stevens is pretty good

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 February 2015 02:10 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

http://www.theatlantic.com/

goddammit

this fuckin mobile design era

j., Wednesday, 22 April 2015 18:07 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

i dont know where to put this, but here'll do

In 2011, when Isaac Lee, president of news for Univision, set out to persuade his company and Disney to back Fusion, a digital news service and cable channel he wanted to start, he promised nothing less than the holy grail: young viewers for the older media conglomerates.

He played a slide show in which a middle-aged white man transformed into a young brown woman. The executives present were dazzled.

just sayin, Monday, 25 May 2015 23:04 (nine years ago) link

irl lol

sktsh, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 10:21 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

is it just my browser/computer or did slate change the fonts (to something terribly ugly)?

Mordy, Monday, 27 July 2015 15:40 (eight years ago) link

http://gawker.com/how-progressive-are-the-media-liberals-1721339149

on salon not recognizing their writers' unionization acceptance yet

would be hilarious if they dropped them all

not hilarious for humanity of course

but still

j., Friday, 31 July 2015 19:18 (eight years ago) link

wow did salon management not consider how hypocritical this was going to look considering that their primary beat is left-wing outrage?

Mordy, Friday, 31 July 2015 19:59 (eight years ago) link

is it normal for unions to form instantly after voting? (genuine question, wondering if there is some intermediary negotiation phase between vote and actually having union)

flopson, Friday, 31 July 2015 20:07 (eight years ago) link

the story notes several quick acknowledgments etc

j., Friday, 31 July 2015 20:10 (eight years ago) link

they have to register w/ the larger union they're joining (in this case Writers Guild East) but it doesn't sound like that is what is holding it up

Mordy, Friday, 31 July 2015 20:11 (eight years ago) link

the story notes several quick acknowledgments etc

― j., Friday, July 31, 2015 4:10 PM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it only mentioned that the guardian's was instantaneous but didn't say how long it took for gawker's to be acknowledged. just wondering if this is actually an unusual amount of time to wait

flopson, Friday, 31 July 2015 20:37 (eight years ago) link

unfortunately probably not

Mordy, Friday, 31 July 2015 20:38 (eight years ago) link

can confirm this is mgmt stonewalling plain and simple, like if they stick their fingers in their ears it will just go away--they may be preparing to force an NLRB certified election, where they'd have the opportunity to undermine WGE.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 31 July 2015 20:39 (eight years ago) link

The Huffington Post is a progressive news site. It is only a matter of time before some of their employees ask to unionize. Will Arianna Huffington, a good liberal, support their request?

Buzzfeed has publicly stated its commitment to a variety of progressive ideals. It is only a matter of time before some of its employees ask to unionize. Will Ben Smith and Jonah Peretti support their request?

aaaaah you fuckin guy

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 31 July 2015 20:44 (eight years ago) link

WGE and my org are jockeying for the same places, and hamno just gave their organizing committees a big WGE wink and a nudge

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 31 July 2015 20:48 (eight years ago) link

ha, crazy

flopson, Friday, 31 July 2015 20:55 (eight years ago) link


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