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I had a second generation iPod, but a lot of the alternatives weren't half bad. The difference being that the iPod was better interface-wise and they bought one of the best desktop audio organizers that worked with devices and made it incompatible with all others.

tbh they bought the firmware off the shelf from yet another company

a strange man (mh), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 01:39 (twelve years ago)

that was all fine and pretty much best-of-breed at the beginning, but it was by far a design and marketing triumph over an actual from-the-roots product development success. probably someone is arguing that's the case for apple with post-return steve jobs, but it was more like a way to jump start their device sales outside the desktop

a strange man (mh), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 01:46 (twelve years ago)

they started working on it in 2001 and had it out by the fall

markers, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 02:02 (twelve years ago)

didn't they eventually acquire the pixo os?

markers, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 02:03 (twelve years ago)

yeah, I believe so

a strange man (mh), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 02:04 (twelve years ago)

but it was by far a design and marketing triumph over an actual from-the-roots product development success.

― a strange man (mh), Monday, April 14, 2014 9:46 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is such a terrible computer programmer thing to say u shd be ashamed

lag∞n, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 02:04 (twelve years ago)

haha thank you, you are right

a strange man (mh), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 02:05 (twelve years ago)

I am ashamed usually

a strange man (mh), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 02:05 (twelve years ago)

fadell literally said something like "we handed the internals to jony to skin"

markers, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 02:06 (twelve years ago)

so yeah it seems like it was rushed. or at least done much faster than the iphone, which took two and a half years.

markers, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 02:06 (twelve years ago)

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/30/magazine/30IPOD.html?pagewanted=all

markers, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 02:08 (twelve years ago)

iwatch leaked photos https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BlO0p9tCMAACL5C.jpg

lag∞n, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 03:15 (twelve years ago)

I bought a Basis B1 watch yesterday - it's kind of ugly but has all the usual Fitbit/Up features and a heart rate monitor. I guess we'll see how it goes.

If Apple could nail a fitness device that interacts with an iPhone (sans the dumber features of the Galaxy watch), it could be huge. Everyone wants to quantify their steps taken and blood sugar constantly etc etc.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 03:21 (twelve years ago)

i don't really see it, but I won't say it's impossible. as mentioned, the fitness calculators don't seem like a huge market to me (lol 'murica)

Nhex, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 03:30 (twelve years ago)

http://bytecollector.com/images/thumbs/hp-01_015_small.jpg

Lee626, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 08:11 (twelve years ago)

Everyone wants to quantify their steps taken and blood sugar constantly etc etc.

everyone but me, i guess?

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 12:55 (twelve years ago)

It's fun

Jeff, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 13:02 (twelve years ago)

I'm at the point in my life where I need a machine to tell me to walk more. Therefore I like the new wave of designery infographic fitness apps that use the motion processor in the iPhone 5s. Much of them seem to be developer tech demos/app portfolios, but at least they subscribe to that do one thing well developer philosophy. Punch in my height, carry my phone around with me for a week, and then quantify exactly how much I've been promoting Sloth.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 13:08 (twelve years ago)

Feels like Nike has been trying to blow this market up for years (iirc Apple hired a guy away from Nike) like they have that dongle you put in your shoe and it surfs the web or something

Maybe it just needs the Apple touch to make it really successful

But it also feels like maybe Apple was looking around and seeing what other people in SF were doing

And it was a bunch of nerdy young white instant millionaires doing Crossfit and getting bodyfat scales and obsessively punching in calories consumed per day into their iPhone apps

And making shakes that remove the need to eat

And I dunno if that can extrapolate onto General America

, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 13:22 (twelve years ago)

I don't understand the blood sugar thing. Does it have a needle on the bottom and prick your skin hourly?

dan selzer, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 14:06 (twelve years ago)

imo the metrics alone are a starting point and things are just finally getting to the point where the sensors work reliably and the devices are wearable without being dumb

actually doing useful things with the data is the big black hole. there are some neat apps now that try to pull things together, but I haven't seen any one that's awesome

blood sugar can be monitored with infrared detection, iirc, but I'm not sure how good it is right now
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_glucose_monitoring#Non-invasive_technologies

a strange man (mh), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 14:14 (twelve years ago)

This sucker is pretty cool, but I couldn't be bothered to input every time I have caffeine, which probably says a lot about my caffeine consumption and less about their application:
https://jawbone.com/up/coffee

I haven't used it for a few months but the feature on the jawbone band that'd wake you around the designated time when you're already in a lighter phase of sleep worked pretty well.

a strange man (mh), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 14:18 (twelve years ago)

i was just spending way too much time on a long post about this, but i nuked it. rip.

markers, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 14:26 (twelve years ago)

come to my town and i'll tell you what's gonna happen

markers, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 14:26 (twelve years ago)

and watch that fucking tim cook video i posted before you talk about this

markers, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 14:26 (twelve years ago)

wear or own one of these bands for a few weeks and get back at me

a strange man (mh), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 14:27 (twelve years ago)

if you know apple in the abstract, know and understand their history, and have been following the leaks surrounding this product, a lot of what they end up revealing shouldn't be a surprise

markers, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 14:29 (twelve years ago)

dan, people have developed tech that does all of that through the skin. or some of that. but apparently it might still be a little fucked up and not ready for market.

markers, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 14:30 (twelve years ago)

know apple in the abstract

I barely know myself, how can I be expected to know a company of thousands?

a strange man (mh), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 14:52 (twelve years ago)

you know what i mean! i waste a lot of time on this shit. too much!

markers, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 14:52 (twelve years ago)

look, i don't have many things i can claim any sort of expertise on, but this is one of them

markers, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 14:53 (twelve years ago)

i don't know anything about music compared to most of the people here. i know more about apple than almost anyone.

markers, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 14:53 (twelve years ago)

if you want to be really cool in life, say "i know more about apple than almost anyone"

markers, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 14:54 (twelve years ago)

it gets you a lot of friends and members of whatever sex(es) you're into

markers, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 14:54 (twelve years ago)

markers, reading a ton of online speculation isn't expertise, it's fandom. I've been there for a few things.

a strange man (mh), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 14:54 (twelve years ago)

"i wasted precious hours of my life reading gil amelio's memoir and have chrisann brennan's on my desk, partially completed"

markers, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 14:55 (twelve years ago)

markers, reading a ton of online speculation isn't expertise, it's fandom. I've been there for a few things.

― a strange man (mh), Tuesday, April 15, 2014 10:54 AM

it's not "online speculation"! that's a small part of it!

markers, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 14:55 (twelve years ago)

time doing something you enjoy isn't wasted

a strange man (mh), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 14:55 (twelve years ago)

well, all i'm saying is that i've spent a lot of time studying them

markers, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 14:56 (twelve years ago)

what is your opinion on dieter rams

a strange man (mh), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 14:57 (twelve years ago)

i don't know anything about goon music. i don't know anything about american politics. i know a lot. a lot. about apple. i could be on the talk show.

markers, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 14:57 (twelve years ago)

what a cool claim, btw

markers, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 14:57 (twelve years ago)

"i could be on the talk show". be my friend!

markers, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 14:57 (twelve years ago)

what is your opinion on dieter rams

― a strange man (mh), Tuesday, April 15, 2014 10:57 AM

i wonder how much his adjustable bookshelf system costs because my bookshelf was $60 at ikea

markers, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 14:58 (twelve years ago)

also apple's old iphone calculator app looked a hell of a lot like his calculator

markers, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 14:58 (twelve years ago)

none of my irl friends are into this shit. hell, most of my online friends aren't into this shit either. it's a lonely life, watching steve jobs doing shit ad nauseum on youtube.

markers, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 15:00 (twelve years ago)

I got a hot keynote yt waiting in my bed so I'll say this

stet, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 15:15 (twelve years ago)

haha

markers, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 15:24 (twelve years ago)

http://cdn.cultofmac.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/ipod-braun.jpg

Lee626, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 16:57 (twelve years ago)

http://www.designsojourn.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/rams-ive.jpg

markers, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 16:59 (twelve years ago)


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