Star Trek: Classic or Dud?

"Counsellor Troi = WHY? She even sits on the bridge next to the Captain!! the message is in the 25th Century a bloody social worker is one of the most important jobs on a space ship."

Funniest thing ever. 12 years ago or something but never forget etc.

Also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWq56gcbOi8

ok this is apropos of nothing but Mr Veg just told me the coolest stories

- in 1975 Leonard Nimoy did a signing in a model home, part of a promotion for a brand new housing development right up the road from Mr Veg's childhood home in Antioch CA. He was 10 years old and he went and he got an 8 x 10 glossy signed by Nimoy, 'Live Long & Prosper' etc. Mr Veg remembers thinking it was weird how Nimoy had big sideburns and longer hair than his tv counterpart

- in 1982 Scotty was doing a signing at an appliance repair store near where Mr Veg now lived, in a big suburban sprawl just outside of Sac. The appliance repair store had branched into selling videos so apparently that was somehow something to do with how Scotty came to be there. idk. Mr Veg was about 17 by then, and he got Scotty to sign the program he had of Star Trek: The Movie. Mr Veg asked him if he wanted to keep making more movies. Scotty said no, he wanted to go back to doing episodes. He didn't see how they could string the movies together without them getting dumb. <3

lol @ those low-rent gigs

lol but mostly sad

scotty otm, there is and has always been something aberrant about star trek in movie form, idgaf how fun wrath of khan was.

20 years since "All Good Things..." was first broadcast:

https://tv.yahoo.com/blogs/tv-news/star-trek-the-next-generation-series-finale-all-good-things-20-years-later-ronald-d-moore-brannon-braga-223132059.html

One thing I do like about TOS is that they weren't afraid to get weird, whether it's involving Greek Gods or Clint Howard as a dubbed alien god child or just lots and lots of Abe Lincoln. Something feels very 60's New Wave of Science Fiction short-stories with it, which makes sense as that's the pool they drew writers from.

I was thinking today about Star Trek III. They're pretty cavalier about transferring Spock's katra into the resurrected Spock. That's essentially a new person, right? Doesn't he have some claim to self-realization? They say that he's "Spock's body", which I guess means that he doesn't have a katra of his own, but he's still an intelligent being. Even if he cooperates in the ceremony, is he really in a position to consent? He's barely a day old. He doesn't even have language yet.

Was not ready to Frakes with white in his beard. T_T

Oh wait is that RDM?

I am always ready to Frakes, he seems cool.

*trombone solo*

xxxpost re going weird, same with the music. The stuff Fried, Courage, and Fielding did for TOS episodes was profoundly weird in a way that Star Trek music would never ever be allowed to approach again.

also along those lines, in this thread or one of the other ones someone compares tos episode titles w tng ones and it's p damning imo. THE GAMESTERS OF TRISKELION and DEVIL IN THE DARK and THE SQUIRE OF GOTHOS and FOR THE WORLD IS HOLLOW AND I HAVE TOUCHED THE SKY vs a show whose best titles are puns on the letter q.

(damning not in itself, i mean, but as synecdoche.)

i liked the title 'silicon avatar' because first you think, oh the silicon avatar is that crystalline entity thing but, no, it's really DATA CHANNELING HER DEAD SON.

http://www.pixeltrek.com/play

almost as boring as the actual show

am I supposed to be doing something besides aimlessly walking around?

idk you could catch the second half of the russia - south korea game maybe?

(but no, I think that's it)

i've never played star trek: online, but this is probably better than star trek:online.

I wonder what those people are looking at on those computers

http://imgur.com/a/0IkGI

lol

I will never be able to look upon o'brien again without shedding a tear for his ennui.

Don't worry. After he transfers to DS9 he gets to do all sorts of fun things.

Let's not forget he married Keiko.

lol

He gets to wear an eyepatch at one point

The DS9 writers seemed to take some perverse pleasure in making O'Brien suffer.

omg

https://secure.checksinthemail.com/product.aspx?productid=6160#.VAhnqWSwKCC

And somewhere, Yeoman Rand is all "Who the fuck writes checks anymore?"

Haha I know. Our daycare only takes checks or cash, so we write one check/week so I'm totally getting a box of these, I don't even care. I might get the address labels, too, even though who the fuck sends mail anymore.

I'm confused what is that supposed to be a link to?

google "women of star trek checks"

Ron Moore: "By the time I joined TNG, Gene had decreed that money most emphatically did NOT exist in the Federation, nor did 'credits' and that was that. Personally, I've always felt this was a bunch of hooey, but it was one of the rules and that's that."

Impressed they remembered B'lanna Torres. lol @ no Enterprise showing

Oh snap, I didn't even notice that. Sorry Hoshi. :(

http://io9.com/the-top-100-star-trek-episodes-of-all-time-1641565699

Not bad, except for all those TOS episodes.

Yet you don't complain about the animated series?

I haven't seen it!!

Shatner rumored to have a role in the next film. Sad.

there's a cool animated series episode where all the men aboard get sirened and uhura has to take command of the enterprise, it's just cool to see uhura doin something. anyway this list obv not bad except for all the episodes from shows that are not TOS. same #1 as me actually last time i thought about this.

(also darmok rules)

i love that episode of the animated series. but then again, i love all the episodes of the animated series.

fuck is picard noseflute bullshit "the inner light" doing at #8

That's one of the best ST episodes, and a perfect encapsulation of the Star Trek ethos! I.e. it isn't about violent conflict, rather than learning from other races and cultures.

Personally I wouldn't rate "The Best of Both Worlds" so high, though... The buildup in the first episode is tremendous, and the cliffhanger is probably the best in ST history, but the way they resolve the conflict in the second part is kinda corny and anti-climactic.

And I wouldn't say "The Visitor" is the best DS9 episode either... It's a nice concept, but unlike with "The Inner Light", they stretch it a bit too far, it doesn't really work on a metaphor level anymore. IMO "Duet" is the best DS9 episode in general, the allegory works better in it, and it's just an incredible showcase for the two main actors.

And as far as concept episodes go, "Far Beyond the Stars" is the best, the concept in it feels relevant in ways "The Visitor" never does. Only thing that stops it from being the perfect ST episode is the pointless framing device, plus Avery Brooks' overacting in the climax. (Otherwise he's very good in his "Elseworlds" role, as is everyone else - Worf as a suave ladies' man and Quark as a left-wing idealist are a joy to watch.)

Totally agree about Duet. It was the first DS9 ep that made me really love the series.

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