Firefox on Mac still loads too slow and has that annoying creeping memory bloat (better than FF2, but still a bit annoying), but my dozen+ extensions mean I'm pretty married to it until Chrome/Safari/Webkit gets a real plug-in system. I actually like the tabs on top of Safari 4 beta, though it definitely runs a little chunkier than 3 did.
― Nhex, Friday, 6 March 2009 05:09 (seventeen years ago)
am i mistaken in thinking that everything in safari 4 is basically stolen from chrome?
― moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 8 March 2009 05:32 (seventeen years ago)
also i don't get "tabs on top" vs "tabs on bottom"
if tabs are for fast switching between pages, and your mouse is generally somewhere in the lower half of the screen, it makes sense that the tabs would be on the bottom, right?
― moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 8 March 2009 05:34 (seventeen years ago)
tabs on top gives you a little more real estate
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Sunday, 8 March 2009 12:58 (seventeen years ago)
why would your mouse be in the lower half? All the other must-mouse stuff like the window buttons, the menus, the toolbar fields and buttons etc are at the top, so it makes sense to put the tabs next to all that.
― stet, Sunday, 8 March 2009 13:07 (seventeen years ago)
What pisses me off about it, is that it (understandably) has a difficulty in distinguishing between whether you want to click a tab, or whether you want to drag a window, so quite often it doesn't work, and then I click again and it registers a double click and minimises it. It's getting on my nerves. I really don't think it matters where they go.
― Keith, Sunday, 8 March 2009 13:22 (seventeen years ago)
I've closed a tab trying to bring a packed window to the front more than once, and there's no undo-close-tab, which is a pisser.
― stet, Sunday, 8 March 2009 13:24 (seventeen years ago)
click-through is a mess
― We are all from Northampton now (caek), Sunday, 8 March 2009 15:14 (seventeen years ago)
Arrrgh, why can I not put a reload button where it belongs to the left of the address bar, the fact that there is a non removable add bookmark where reload should be just adds insult to injury.
― Prince of Persia (Ed), Sunday, 8 March 2009 15:34 (seventeen years ago)
...and there's no undo-close-tab, which is a pisser.
Looks like the Glims kids have been pretty quick on getting it working for Safari 4.
― Alas, those pwns never came. (libcrypt), Sunday, 8 March 2009 16:46 (seventeen years ago)
#1 - clicking around in the browser window?!? "submit post" or navigating web pages, etc. if your mouse is up by the toolbar field most of the time how do you even use the internet?!?
#2 - this is embarrassing, but i actually "read" with the mouse ... i drag it along past whatever i'm reading like a finger on a page.
― moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 8 March 2009 18:44 (seventeen years ago)
i *love* the "top sites", btw, because 90% of my internet time is on six or so sites - the dashboard for my class blog, my web-based gradebook and attendance system, my webmail, my online banking and ILX.
― moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 8 March 2009 18:47 (seventeen years ago)
I bought an iPhone today. Now how the hell do I use it?
― Mr. Snrub, Sunday, 8 March 2009 19:11 (seventeen years ago)
#2 - this is embarrassing, but i actually "read" with the mouse ... i drag it along past whatever i'm reading like a finger on a page
Not embarrassing at all. I do that all the time when I'm editing stuff at work, certainly. It's become an automatic thing when I'm reading closely on a screen.
I'm trying to monitor where my mouse pointer spends most of its time. So far it's very much "in the bottom half of the screen". Still, I think the Safari 4 tabs rock bells, so hey.
― Atoms are "balls" (grimly fiendish), Sunday, 8 March 2009 19:20 (seventeen years ago)
Put yr finger in the hole with the first digit you need to dial, then turn it around like you were screwing on the top of a jar. Then do the same with the next digit, and so on until you ring up yr party. Put yr head next to the gadget and then talk!
― Alas, those pwns never came. (libcrypt), Sunday, 8 March 2009 19:21 (seventeen years ago)
Many a true word ...
― Atoms are "balls" (grimly fiendish), Sunday, 8 March 2009 19:23 (seventeen years ago)
yeah I like top sites because it confronts me with the reality of my time-wasting. Sometimes I actually look at all the little thumbnails and say "no, nothing valuable is going to happen here."
― lucked up (lukas), Sunday, 8 March 2009 19:25 (seventeen years ago)
iphone OS 3.0 will have cut, copy & paste!
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 20:12 (seventeen years ago)
I just destroyed my Mighty Mouse whilst trying to clean it. I do blame myself for this, because a) no one should make a mouse that you cannot properly clean without voiding the warranty, and b) no one should make a trackball that gets plugged up so badly that it's useless just from everyday handling. It's not like I've been using this mouse with sticky chocolate all over my hands. I wash my hands often. In fact, if there's one thing that the nd now that it's dead and I've Mighty Mouse is good for, it's making you wash your hands more often, for fear that you'll hamper its delicate and inaccessible inner workings. This is bullshit. And now that it's dead and replaced with my old reliable Microsoft IntelliMouse, I don't feel a bit sorry. I will not for a moment miss furiously fingering that tiny little trackball like the clit of a woman who's mad at me. Forget it.
― tits akimbo (kenan), Saturday, 25 April 2009 02:00 (seventeen years ago)
I do NOT blame myself for this
Messy post. That I do blame myself for.
― tits akimbo (kenan), Saturday, 25 April 2009 02:02 (seventeen years ago)
I think it was stet who recommended the cleaning method I use, and I've un-crapped my latest MM a half-dozen times: put a small puddle of clean water on a clean sheet of paper, turn the mouse upside down and scribble furiously through the water, like the mouseball is the tip of your pen. That water will get up there and dissolve whatever the problem is.
― WmC, Saturday, 25 April 2009 02:07 (seventeen years ago)
It's sad, because that scroll ball is totally awesome as long as it works, but it's very very annoying to clean. (And man that right click behavior was very annoying!) I had mine replaced under warranty, but switched to my old MS scroll wheel mouse.
― Nhex, Saturday, 25 April 2009 02:09 (seventeen years ago)
That water will get up there and dissolve whatever the problem is.
For a time. Unless the problem turns out to be two years worth of the kind of cat hair that floats through the air and you can barely see. Apparently, that builds up nasty-like.
― tits akimbo (kenan), Saturday, 25 April 2009 02:13 (seventeen years ago)
I've done the paper-water thing many, many times.
― tits akimbo (kenan), Saturday, 25 April 2009 02:14 (seventeen years ago)
Being able to program it so that primary and secondary sides are switched is so great. 20 years of single-button mousing had me pretty ingrained in clicking on the right side with my middle finger.
― WmC, Saturday, 25 April 2009 02:15 (seventeen years ago)
I just want it to not break, that's all I'm saying. It is great, when it works.
― tits akimbo (kenan), Saturday, 25 April 2009 02:18 (seventeen years ago)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/WilliamCrump63/arlo0417.jpg
you must have that kind of cat
― WmC, Saturday, 25 April 2009 02:26 (seventeen years ago)
HAHA yes. Yes indeed.
― tits akimbo (kenan), Saturday, 25 April 2009 02:29 (seventeen years ago)
I tried the MM for a few months. I thought I would get used to it. It was miserable the whole time. Welcome back logitech.
― Jeff, Saturday, 25 April 2009 03:59 (seventeen years ago)
Yeh it's the worst mouse they've made so far, including the puck, but it doesn't seem like they're for fixing it.
I'd much rather have a logitech revolution, but it's right-hand only. The only left-hand model they do is crap, apptly.
― stet, Saturday, 25 April 2009 09:40 (seventeen years ago)
any intel-based mac users have an installer for mysql 5 community edition? I've been unable to download this from mysql for three days and need it pronto.
― akm, Saturday, 25 April 2009 21:45 (seventeen years ago)
oh never mind, found a mirror somewhere.
― akm, Saturday, 25 April 2009 21:47 (seventeen years ago)
Right now I hate microsoft way more. OTH, I can dick around on the internet whilst excel is trundling away.
― Prince of Persia (Ed), Saturday, 25 April 2009 22:20 (seventeen years ago)
Microsoft C/D
Way off topic, but has anyone installed Windows 7 64-bit using Boot Camp? I'm thinking about redoing my gaming 32-bit XP partition in that when it gets a final release, but I'm worried about the drivers. OTOH it would be nice to actually use my full 4 gigs of ram and not deal with clunky XP (a great OS in its day for sure and still solid, but sad to go back and forth b/w that and Leopard).
― Nhex, Saturday, 25 April 2009 22:35 (seventeen years ago)
The drivers are a total nightmare under bootcamp apparently. You have to do them piece by piece and they're not the best after that.
― stet, Sunday, 26 April 2009 00:17 (seventeen years ago)
Though I'm not sure how bootcamp can have an effect on that, once it's past the EFI booting stuff. Perhaps it's just coincidentally the drivers for whatever hardware Apple's using? There's definitely no all-in-one CD like there is for Vista and XP, tho.
― stet, Sunday, 26 April 2009 00:18 (seventeen years ago)
latest shenanigans:
wiping the screen down with iKlear and some of it somehow got between the screen and the backing. so fluid damage all over the LCD screen.
i take it to the genius bar. "well, obviously, you spilled something on it and that's water damage, not covered by apple care". and i'm like, heeeeey, not so fast buddy, i was using screen wipes and i didn't "spill" anything on it. and he's like "well maybe you did and maybe you didn't".
so next morning, fuming, i called up apple customer relations. explained that i've already shelled out for two macbook pros, two powerbooks, two iphones, three ipods, two airports and a time machine and i am pretty fucking pissed that the boy "genius" accused me of lying. and that i was pissed that apple sold me a product out of the apple store (iKlear wipes) that can fuck up their own products so badly.
well anyway apple customer relations bumped me up to the next level in the hierarchy ("customer care" or something like that) who agreed to cover the whole deal under apple care. i told them i'd be damned if i took it back to the same "geniuses" who accused me of lying so she gave me something called an "exception code" so that i could take it to an authorized repair shop in town and get the repair charge comped by apple. which i did and 48 hours later i have a brand new LCD screen.
anyway, i love/hate apple. but the fucking genius bar is the fucking worst shit ever. and applecare is a crock of shit. two weeks ago i washed a three year-old patagonia technical jacket according to their instructions in my washing machine and when it came out it was two different colors. i took it to the patagonia shop and 48 hours later i had a brand new mountaineering jacket of equal value to the one that was fucked up in the wash, no questions asked, no "oh are you lying to us". that's called customer service. the genius bar is a bunch of fucking clowns.
― moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 26 April 2009 04:50 (seventeen years ago)
glen kim >>> genius bar douche
― velko, Sunday, 26 April 2009 06:07 (seventeen years ago)
i am honestly a very quiet and polite person IRL, but something about bad customer service makes me hulk out in ways which are, in general, surprisingly effective.
― moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 26 April 2009 08:00 (seventeen years ago)
probably because i have years of experience in high-end retail and catering, where really good customer service is really, really important
working at the genius bar seems like an entry-level job for kids just out of high school around here
― akm, Sunday, 26 April 2009 14:26 (seventeen years ago)
really? lot of the genius bar ppl i've encountered seem like graphic designers fallen on hard times
― i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Sunday, 26 April 2009 15:24 (seventeen years ago)
'graphic designer fallen on hard times' seems like an entry level job for recent graduates around here
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Sunday, 26 April 2009 15:25 (seventeen years ago)
Probably depends on location round here they seem to be CMU CS and design majors working part time. Some of them may even be geniuses.
― Prince of Persia (Ed), Sunday, 26 April 2009 15:26 (seventeen years ago)
lol @ u max
― i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Sunday, 26 April 2009 15:27 (seventeen years ago)
Although probably not as I suspect that any real geniuses will be in the Apple/MS/Google/Intel offices on campus.
― Prince of Persia (Ed), Sunday, 26 April 2009 15:27 (seventeen years ago)
Now my MBP won't turn on at all but it makes a faint clicking noise when I hold down the power key ... How bad is that?
― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 05:06 (seventeen years ago)
Mac Pro that I need to sell to pay for 17" MBP has developed a problem since I finally updated the firmware - on sleep, it just shuts down. Which probably means the power supply is fucked in this one, just like it was in the G5 tower I sold to buy this three years ago. Thankfully I've still got Applecare on it, though I expect it's going to be a hassle to get them to deal with it. And that means i won't be able to sell it and get paid before I leave for NYC, which means I'm out $1400-1500 for another three weeks or a month.
I don't want to be a hater, but my Apple hardware kind of sucks in terms of quality. Every single tower has had something fuck up (power supply, hard drive failure), one Macbook Pro had such a high-pitched whine that I couldn't use the thing unless I ran a program making it run artificially hard, small ailments with other ones, both my iPhones have started to lose functionality with the top button (the sleep button I guess) after a few months. If I'm going to pay the Mac premium, I'd like them to at least pretend that it's put together by slightly more competent sweatshop labor than a $300 Asus netbook.
― too many misters not enough sisters (milo z), Wednesday, 13 May 2009 05:56 (seventeen years ago)