Ta-Nehisi Coates Rules, The Thread

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http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/01/11/a-hammock-in-kentucky/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=1

This Krugman v Williamson in NRO article relates

curmudgeon, Thursday, 10 April 2014 22:00 (twelve years ago)

Just read conservative NY Times columnist Ross Douthat re Coates and Chait. What conservatives have learned from the debate, and from the Wiliamson NRO article on Appalachia, is to call all poor unemployed people getting food stamps, no matter their race or ethnic origin, lazy and lacking in morals and ethics.

curmudgeon, Friday, 11 April 2014 13:51 (twelve years ago)

lol otm. Being part of the shiftless poor is a class thing, not a race thing man.

ביטקוין‎ (Hurting 2), Friday, 11 April 2014 13:53 (twelve years ago)

one month passes...

Take your time. Read it all.

http://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2014/05/the-case-for-reparations/361631/

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 May 2014 01:25 (twelve years ago)

wow. really tremendous piece.

Mordy, Thursday, 22 May 2014 03:39 (twelve years ago)

co-sign. great read.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 22 May 2014 05:34 (twelve years ago)

yeah, thinking of sending this to a friend from abroad who's just moved to the states and seems a bit befuddled by race-in-america stuff.

display name changed. (amateurist), Thursday, 22 May 2014 05:40 (twelve years ago)

I hope this gets a lot of attention. It certainly deserves it.

Survivalist Compound Row (B.L.A.M.), Thursday, 22 May 2014 06:14 (twelve years ago)

I hope this gets a lot of attention. It certainly deserves it.

― Survivalist Compound Row (B.L.A.M.), Thursday, May 22, 2014 2:14 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

def blowing up on my twitter fwiw

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 May 2014 13:24 (twelve years ago)

Andrew Golis ‏@agolis 12s
The chartbeat data on Ta-Nehisi's reparations piece is giving me hope for humanity. Wow.

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 May 2014 13:45 (twelve years ago)

^atlantic managment

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 May 2014 13:46 (twelve years ago)

there's so much i like about the piece. the research is thorough, the original reporting is fantastic - i think Coates' case is really compelling. there was one argument in the middle of the piece that i couldn't totally get on board with (about patriotism a la carte), and i thought the piece could've used a more decisive conclusion (i was initially confused about where the rest of the article was - it ended so abruptly), but those are pretty minor quibbles and this is one of my favorite things i've ever read in the Atlantic. i had never heard this story either, so i was grateful that he included it:

Among the Jews of Israel, reparations provoked violent and venomous reactions ranging from denunciation to assassination plots. On January 7, 1952, as the Knesset—the Israeli parliament—convened to discuss the prospect of a reparations agreement with West Germany, Menachem Begin, the future prime minister of Israel, stood in front of a large crowd, inveighing against the country that had plundered the lives, labor, and property of his people. Begin claimed that all Germans were Nazis and guilty of murder. His condemnations then spread to his own young state. He urged the crowd to stop paying taxes and claimed that the nascent Israeli nation characterized the fight over whether or not to accept reparations as a “war to the death.” When alerted that the police watching the gathering were carrying tear gas, allegedly of German manufacture, Begin yelled, “The same gases that asphyxiated our parents!”

Mordy, Thursday, 22 May 2014 14:00 (twelve years ago)

is there an "anonymous coates reparations piece comments over stock photos" tumblr yet?

goole, Thursday, 22 May 2014 17:17 (twelve years ago)

is there anyone responding thoughtfully to the piece yet anywhere or are ppl pretty much still reading/digesting it?

Mordy, Thursday, 22 May 2014 17:21 (twelve years ago)

can't wait for NRO's Kevin Williamson's response.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 May 2014 17:33 (twelve years ago)

i like that coates attached his argument to an actual piece of passable legislation - Conyers’s HR40

Mordy, Thursday, 22 May 2014 17:35 (twelve years ago)

is there anyone responding thoughtfully to the piece yet anywhere or are ppl pretty much still reading/digesting it?

― Mordy, Thursday, May 22, 2014 1:21 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

its so good its like no one is worthy to respond

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 May 2014 17:39 (twelve years ago)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BoQchowCYAAEKuW.png

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 May 2014 17:39 (twelve years ago)

haven't read this yet but intrigued by the idea that something could be so forcefully argued that it can only be fitfully processed in the noise of political discourse.

ryan, Thursday, 22 May 2014 17:41 (twelve years ago)

it's both comprehensively argued and also asks for so little - the passage of a bill to study the issue

Mordy, Thursday, 22 May 2014 17:42 (twelve years ago)

can't wait for NRO's Kevin Williamson's response.

― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, May 22, 2014 12:33 PM

Maybe I'm not attentive enough, but it seems to me that NRO steers clear of Coates.

Deep brain stimulation leads patient to become huge Johnny Cash fan (WilliamC), Thursday, 22 May 2014 17:44 (twelve years ago)

don't think they'll be able to avoid this one

anonanon, Thursday, 22 May 2014 17:45 (twelve years ago)

I love the way the story of Clyde Ross is woven through this piece. It really becomes something much more than a 'thinkpiece' or an 'article'...I mean, part of me want this to blow up into a book deal. I'd love to read more.

I did feel a bit the same as Mordy w/r/t to the conclusion...I scrolled down looking for another page or something, it was an abrupt conclusion for something so well structured and thoughtful.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 22 May 2014 17:55 (twelve years ago)

otm its more than just an article, the thing that really sets coates apart imo is that while he can do the reporting and argumentation especially as good as anyone he really brings a true personal caring and humanity and humility to his work, an inspiration to us all

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 May 2014 18:12 (twelve years ago)

http://www.npr.org/blogs/codeswitch/2014/05/22/314881767/how-to-tell-if-someones-actually-read-ta-nehisi-coates-essay

Diddley Hollyberry (Phil D.), Thursday, 22 May 2014 18:28 (twelve years ago)

yeah but now u can just read that and adjust accoringly

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 May 2014 18:35 (twelve years ago)

imo coates blog used to be much better than his long form writing but its seems like now hes incorporated a lot of what makes the blog so great into his other pieces

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 May 2014 18:38 (twelve years ago)

any idea what these guys are talking about?

https://twitter.com/nealcarter/status/469475311868846080

relentlessly pecking at peace (President Keyes), Thursday, 22 May 2014 19:15 (twelve years ago)

I fucking hate when people throw shade with no link to whatever it is that caused them to throw shade

On-the-spot Dicespin (DJP), Thursday, 22 May 2014 19:30 (twelve years ago)

also fuck Tim Wise

On-the-spot Dicespin (DJP), Thursday, 22 May 2014 19:31 (twelve years ago)

this is apparently the piece he's talking about:

http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2013/04/fear-the-fro/275379/

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 22 May 2014 19:34 (twelve years ago)

lol that guy's twitter pic tho

k3vin k., Thursday, 22 May 2014 19:37 (twelve years ago)

Still not getting what the issue is here. Sounds like some echo chamber bs to me.

tsrobodo, Thursday, 22 May 2014 19:39 (twelve years ago)

hmm SOME PEOPLE itt dont like subtweets it seems

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 May 2014 20:04 (twelve years ago)

hahaha wait, so Ta-Nehisi Coates writes a short article about a woman's conflicted relationship with her natural hair and that is proof that he hates black women?

On-the-spot Dicespin (DJP), Thursday, 22 May 2014 20:28 (twelve years ago)

idgi

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 22 May 2014 20:32 (twelve years ago)

yeah mystified over here too

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 May 2014 20:52 (twelve years ago)

I think it might be another piece about Lupita Nyong'o being referred to? At least that's what it seemed like in that stream of tweets.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 May 2014 20:55 (twelve years ago)

But if they're talking about this, then I even MORE don't get it

http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2014/03/lupita-nyongos-radical-world-changing-style/284274/

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 May 2014 20:56 (twelve years ago)

Bah, that's not even by Ta-Nehisi.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 May 2014 20:56 (twelve years ago)

lol

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 May 2014 20:57 (twelve years ago)

TNC dissed Nel Carter?!

Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 May 2014 21:00 (twelve years ago)

ha it is that first one

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 May 2014 21:02 (twelve years ago)

they are outing TNC for wearing a hair piece and he won't own up to it

but it looks so natural!

nitro-burning funny car (Moodles), Thursday, 22 May 2014 21:10 (twelve years ago)

Well, Steve Harvey faked having the freshest line-up in America for damn near a decade. If not him, then who can we trust?

tsrobodo, Thursday, 22 May 2014 21:28 (twelve years ago)

omg dying at the "controversy" there.

wat is teh waht (s.clover), Thursday, 22 May 2014 21:50 (twelve years ago)

genuinely considering subscribing to the Atlantic for a year just to give props to that article.

Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Friday, 23 May 2014 02:04 (twelve years ago)


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