generation limbo: 20-somethings today, debt, unemployment, the questionable value of a college education

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I mean it's fun to write in dystopian language that makes it sound like we'll all be slaves, but I don't really see how that sounds worse than what we have now (which, of course, is bad).

ביטקוין‎ (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 9 April 2014 04:09 (twelve years ago)

well, i think the implication is that the more of a role finance has in education funding, the more it will follow past examples in asserting more detailed specifications of the product upfront?

which in my experience would be disastrous in particular for students who get locked in but cannot find their way to succeeding/thriving in a course of study initially chosen (of whom there are loads, maybe even the majority?).

j., Wednesday, 9 April 2014 04:26 (twelve years ago)

http://i62.tinypic.com/28bftwn.png

fuck u salon + fuck u gen-x'rs, ffs

Mordy , Wednesday, 9 April 2014 19:28 (twelve years ago)

http://www.policymic.com/articles/48829/why-you-should-never-have-taken-that-prestigious-internship

sarah kendzior sayin strong stuff bout 'prestige economy'

j., Wednesday, 16 April 2014 01:59 (twelve years ago)

kendzior is the shit

smooth hymnal (m bison), Wednesday, 16 April 2014 02:04 (twelve years ago)

http://www.totalenter10.com/is-pearson-education-in-serious-financial-trouble/

v. v. detailed rundown of education vendor/octopus pearson education's current state of business

j., Saturday, 26 April 2014 00:10 (twelve years ago)

http://i60.tinypic.com/10z2ttd.png

Mordy, Thursday, 1 May 2014 19:50 (twelve years ago)

Alan Singer's article is mostly nonsense. The share price uncertainly is more a reflection of concern that the educational materials sector is never going to be as profitable in established markets as it was three or four years ago. It isn't linked to a belief that the company is "overextended" - something he doesn't really provide any evidence of. Some factual errors and lots of speculation too - particularly relating to the idea that the spread of online education (in which it is only one player of many) will lead to the closure of thousands of colleges. The idea that tests are actively being made harder to generate more money is an absurdity.

It's frustrating as there is definitely a good article waiting to be written about the company and the potential conflicts between service provision and active participation in policy making but I get the sense that nobody really has enough of an overview or enough expertise to write it without a hell of a lot more research and consideration than Singer. The attacks are coming from people with an axe to grind where a scalpal would be more effective.

Yuri Bashment (ShariVari), Thursday, 1 May 2014 20:12 (twelve years ago)

http://www.roughtype.com/?p=4464

Those millions aren’t enough, apparently, to pay translators to help the company extend its online courses, or MOOCs, into foreign markets. Instead, Coursera is taking the digital sharecropping route. It announced this week that it is recruiting skilled translators and asking them to donate their work to the company for free. What the volunteers receive, in lieu of income, is the satisfaction of being a member of Coursera’s “community.” Translation, says the company, is “much more than a means to an end. By joining the GTC [Global Translator Community], you’ll become a member of a tight-knit community of committed individuals and organizations.”

j., Thursday, 1 May 2014 22:56 (twelve years ago)

jesus did they pick that up at awesomeness fest

goole, Friday, 2 May 2014 03:05 (twelve years ago)

That's a bizarre use of the word "sharecropping." Also, no one's gonna fucking do that.

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Friday, 2 May 2014 03:07 (twelve years ago)

it is much more than a means to an end. to you. to us, it is a means to an end. the end of not paying you.

j., Friday, 2 May 2014 03:10 (twelve years ago)

http://www.pbs.org/marktwain/images/lmphoto_tom1.jpg

Mordy, Friday, 2 May 2014 03:10 (twelve years ago)

rage

j., Monday, 12 May 2014 23:59 (twelve years ago)

facebook actually did that 'hey can u guys translate this for us thanks' thing back in the day

iatee, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 00:02 (twelve years ago)

http://techcrunch.com/2009/08/26/facebook-files-for-patent-on-crowdsourced-translations/

iatee, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 00:07 (twelve years ago)

xxxp

That's a fucking bummer

building a desert (art), Tuesday, 13 May 2014 00:09 (twelve years ago)

arrrrrgh that coursera stuff makes me so fucking mad

espring (amateurist), Tuesday, 13 May 2014 00:15 (twelve years ago)

a milli a milli a milli

smooth hymnal (m bison), Tuesday, 13 May 2014 01:26 (twelve years ago)

*Typical Financial Profile
nah just playing there are literally only about 12 millenials like this

smooth hymnal (m bison), Tuesday, 13 May 2014 01:28 (twelve years ago)

one month passes...

http://chronicle.com/article/The-Miseducation-of-America/147227/

, Thursday, 19 June 2014 23:59 (eleven years ago)

More than that, they represent a much larger anxiety-provoking but also potentially thrilling economic evolution that is affecting all of us.

They must be firing editors.

What Is It Like To Be A HOOS? (silby), Friday, 20 June 2014 16:20 (eleven years ago)

or hiring sixth graders to write thinkpieces

What Is It Like To Be A HOOS? (silby), Friday, 20 June 2014 16:21 (eleven years ago)

feel like it's one step away from: "no, you can't find security, but the opposite of security is risk, and risk has higher rewards, so this is an OPPORTUNITY FOR HIGH REWARDS DO U SEE?!"

Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Friday, 20 June 2014 16:25 (eleven years ago)

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/22/technology/workplace-surveillance-sees-good-and-bad.html?smid=tw-share

will any of these employers pay me to curl up in a ball on my bed and claw my way up from catatonia because i can do that real efficiently

j., Sunday, 22 June 2014 20:34 (eleven years ago)

i mean jesus

j., Sunday, 22 June 2014 20:42 (eleven years ago)

The rebuttal seems sound, although my grasp of stats and sampling is weak at best. But I appreciated the point in the first article about students who don't graduate and are STILL carrying debt--because students who don't graduate often don't graduate for family and financial reasons, so there's a high correlation with ppl who won't be able to pay back the loans they took out, esp without that degree.

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 14:44 (eleven years ago)

Right, there is that and also some other good substantive points in the times article, but the way they slice it up and present it winds up as "student debt is way overblown and nbd"

Hier Komme Die Warum Jetzt (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 14:45 (eleven years ago)

nice to see someone calling bullshit on that terrible brookings study

dude (Lamp), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 14:45 (eleven years ago)

Love the headshots http://i.imgur.com/NpnxD7i.png

, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 14:53 (eleven years ago)

matthew chingos more like matthew chingados, pinche cabron

it's not a fedora, it's a trill bae (m bison), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 15:50 (eleven years ago)

They look like smug fraternal twins doing a smug mind-meld.

Hier Komme Die Warum Jetzt (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 16:57 (eleven years ago)

two months pass...

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/08/17/fashion/the-millennials-are-generation-nice.html

Mordy, Sunday, 24 August 2014 23:21 (eleven years ago)

holy shit http://chronicle.com/blogs/letters/is-that-whining-adjunct-someone-we-want-teaching-our-young/

everybody loves lana del raymond (s.clover), Thursday, 28 August 2014 03:42 (eleven years ago)

I can only say that I have had full-time employment with benefits both inside and outside working in academia for over 30 years. I made choices.

I started out in a completely different era and everything worked out for me, so all you whining children who are starting out in today's world must not know shit about life. QED.

Aimless, Thursday, 28 August 2014 03:48 (eleven years ago)

As one of my friends might say, “Time to put on your big-girl panties!”

"As one of my friends might say, if I had friends"

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 28 August 2014 03:54 (eleven years ago)

Courses taught: Google Applications; Social Networking for Business, Office Supervision, Business Communications, MS Office applications 2010 (and earlier), Introduction to Management, Voice recognition, Office Orientation, Keyboarding, etc.

iatee, Thursday, 28 August 2014 03:56 (eleven years ago)

(and earlier) <---- how you know she's a true expert in her field

j., Thursday, 28 August 2014 04:01 (eleven years ago)

office orientation: shld u point yr desk THIS way or THIS WAY? an ethnomethodological approach

j., Thursday, 28 August 2014 04:02 (eleven years ago)

She's written "definately" multiple times in the comments section

een, Thursday, 28 August 2014 04:03 (eleven years ago)

http://morton.edu/OMT/

Today’s administrative professional handles a variety of duties and need skills in many facets of office procedures and technology including: Internet/Intranet communication, problem-solving, cloud computing, project management, Microsoft Office applications, mobile technology, social media, electronic record keeping, web conferencing, organization, and customer service.

iatee, Thursday, 28 August 2014 04:06 (eleven years ago)

four months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsT-_ITj8xE

celfie tucker 48 (s.clover), Monday, 5 January 2015 17:03 (eleven years ago)

I was researching the for-profit college industry today at work, and it occurred to me that the Obama admin actually has done quite a lot of cracking down on the scammy operators in that field, and have genuinely wounded the industry, possibly mortally. Something genuinely good the admin has don.

walid foster dulles (man alive), Saturday, 17 January 2015 03:09 (eleven years ago)

really? any good articles about that?

Nhex, Saturday, 17 January 2015 04:27 (eleven years ago)

It wasn't something I found in one place but I found a lot of different things that added up to that picture for me.

walid foster dulles (man alive), Saturday, 17 January 2015 04:29 (eleven years ago)

four months pass...

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/31/business/international/in-europe-fake-jobs-can-have-real-benefits.html

i promise you

you must read this

j., Friday, 29 May 2015 14:56 (eleven years ago)

Spooky.

How long till we finally admit that expecting there to be a job for everyone is ridiculous and just start giving people $40k a year or so for life by default?

jennifer islam (silby), Friday, 29 May 2015 19:46 (eleven years ago)


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