I demand ilx's james franco explain this state of affairs
― have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Thursday, 3 April 2014 13:48 (twelve years ago)
found the IG post in question, the comments are reliably toxic
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Thursday, 3 April 2014 13:49 (twelve years ago)
I kind of appreciate the wavering in tone between being a creepy old man who knows he shouldn't do this alternating with continued proof that it is him
"But, I'm james franco... I could do this, right?"
― have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Thursday, 3 April 2014 13:50 (twelve years ago)
it's probably a new movie project of his
― waterbabies (waterface), Thursday, 3 April 2014 13:50 (twelve years ago)
his life is the project
― have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Thursday, 3 April 2014 13:51 (twelve years ago)
http://cheeseandquackers.tumblr.com/post/81567862160/trillaryclinton-tarynel-thethuglifeishard
http://i.imgur.com/I83AXvO.jpg
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Thursday, 3 April 2014 14:59 (twelve years ago)
http://i.imgur.com/0A90vBj.gif
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― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Thursday, 3 April 2014 15:00 (twelve years ago)
You sound so dodgy / ByeSend a picture / *immediate picture sending*
― have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Thursday, 3 April 2014 15:04 (twelve years ago)
hey, if it's good enough for you...
― kinder, Thursday, 3 April 2014 15:05 (twelve years ago)
Doing a play 8 performances a week can make anyone slip.
― That's So (Eazy), Thursday, 3 April 2014 15:18 (twelve years ago)
James Franco and his SLIPS!!!
― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 3 April 2014 15:21 (twelve years ago)
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/06/26/chris_hansen.jpg
Why don't you have a seat...
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 3 April 2014 15:22 (twelve years ago)
when i first starting reading this i got terrified that it was this chick who used to message the fake franco fb page i used to operate
― 1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Thursday, 3 April 2014 18:03 (twelve years ago)
that would be something
― have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Thursday, 3 April 2014 18:07 (twelve years ago)
"my Scottish friends" stuck out to me as an odd turn of phrase
― From Tha Crouuuch To Da Palacios (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 3 April 2014 18:39 (twelve years ago)
DON: It's a new ballgame out there for celebrities today. Things like Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter bring us closer than to more of our fans than ever with all the disadvantages that implies. Mr. Franco is learning a painful lesson in this right now.
GLENN: There has to be standards! I think that the public should hold back passing judgement on James until we find out if the girl in question o.d'd at his mansion and received medical care only after he ordered another chick from Instagram to bone down in her place.
DON: Well, yeah.
― How About A Kiss For Your Cousin Doogie (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 3 April 2014 19:02 (twelve years ago)
Definitely shifts the conversation away from "Is he gay?".
― That's So (Eazy), Thursday, 3 April 2014 19:16 (twelve years ago)
shifts it to "is he bi"
― 1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Thursday, 3 April 2014 20:44 (twelve years ago)
guilty lol
this is so O_O
― coops all on coops tbh (crüt), Thursday, 3 April 2014 20:49 (twelve years ago)
age of consent in NY is 17
― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 3 April 2014 20:53 (twelve years ago)
oh its cool then, nm
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:02 (twelve years ago)
morbs he stole your bit!
― forum enthusiast (wins), Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:04 (twelve years ago)
bye
― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Monday, January 21, 2013 4:14 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
no. bye.
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, November 26, 2013 4:47 PM (4 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
maybe we can get you to bring back ... naaaaah
― playwright Greg Marlowe, secretly in love with Mary (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, July 2, 2013 7:41 PM (9 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
so we're just listing every debut perf ever now
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, November 12, 2013 5:15 PM (4 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― forum enthusiast (wins), Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:11 (twelve years ago)
holy shit, lol
I can also picture Franco hearing the NY age of consent and thinking "I should have said.. wait no, it was a bad... but then again... hmmm"
― have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:16 (twelve years ago)
btw he was holding a bong while thinking that
http://news.artnet.com/art-world/is-james-francos-art-career-a-joke-a-critical-appraisal-11107?utm_campaign=artnetnews&utm_source=042214daily&utm_medium=email
sounds about right
― Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 17:20 (twelve years ago)
If you think it's bad, then you don't get it.
If you think it's not funny, then you don't get it.
If you think it's funny, then you really don't get it.
If you take it seriously, then the joke's on you.
If you like it, then the joke's on you, too.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 17:24 (twelve years ago)
i'm sympathetic to that write-up, but the phrase 'middlebrow sort of satisfaction' set off my BS detector. what is 'middlebrow' about having a bit of fun trying to pair up the franco photos with the sherman originals? is 'middlebrow' just being used here as 'beneath me' or possibly 'against my better judgement'?
― espring (amateurist), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 17:30 (twelve years ago)
it's not high art or low art, it's just a dumb concept played for cheapness
― a strange man (mh), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 18:00 (twelve years ago)
I mean, the wiki definition includes "a forced and ineffective attempt at cultural and intellectual achievement" which is kind of this to a t?
― a strange man (mh), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 18:01 (twelve years ago)
but he's not referring to the whole exercise (the whole project) as being middlebrow, he's referring specifically to the task of matching up franco's photos to sherman's.
― espring (amateurist), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 18:07 (twelve years ago)
i think you could say that the matching game is middlebrow in that, like franco's photos, it references a "high art" source without engaging w/ its content or meaning
― 1staethyr, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 18:24 (twelve years ago)
don't you see, it's a direct rumination on sherman's work. no matter how she appeared, it was cindy sherman. he's surfaced this by being obviously james franco
this doesn't actually make u think
― a strange man (mh), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 18:27 (twelve years ago)
i think you could say that the matching game is middlebrow in that, like franco's photos, it references a "high art" source without engaging w/ its content or meaning― 1staethyr, Tuesday, April 22, 2014 1:24 PM (39 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― 1staethyr, Tuesday, April 22, 2014 1:24 PM (39 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
but even if franco's work added fascinating new subtexts to sherman's work blah blah blah, there would still be the basic task of matching photo to photo.
― espring (amateurist), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 19:08 (twelve years ago)
I WILL NOT BACK DOWN
― espring (amateurist), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 19:11 (twelve years ago)
I get it but it smarts a bit because I was one of those teens and twentysomethings that just held Cindy Sherman in extremely high esteem, sacred. Now that I am older in a world of selfies and self-timers are no big deal (all I wanted was a camera with a self-timer when I was a kid)...I don't know to some extent it is almost cute in that his "homage seems to also point to a discovery of Cindy Sherman and it's always cool to see what an artist inspires in those who just discover their work. But I agree, it isn't exactly edifying. Something about it all points more towards a Vanity Fair spread than art. Had it been a Vanity Fair photo shoot I would have thought the photographer was being slightly witty.
― *tera, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 19:18 (twelve years ago)
Who are we, as viewers, to separate a fascinating subtext from a trivial one? And if your answer is the relativist one -- no one, it's subjective -- then where does that leave "judgment"? Nowhere, of course, but then what is art if not crude cultural positioning? What is high culture if not a brand? Only shitty art can answer these quesfions.
― james franco, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 19:19 (twelve years ago)
you forgot shitty posting
― frogbs, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 19:21 (twelve years ago)
this is elitist, for sure, but: for a guy in his late thirties, franco seems to be running through inspirations/influences that most smartypants folks encounter in their teens and early twenties. that doesn't mean they are invalid, just that i wonder what franco has been up to for the past 20 years. has he never encountered anything but the literary/art-world/cinematic equivalent of megastars?
― espring (amateurist), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 19:21 (twelve years ago)
xpost
i really, really wish that was actually james franco
hi james franco
― waterbabies (waterface), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 19:22 (twelve years ago)
actually never mind. james franco, you stay away.
― espring (amateurist), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 19:25 (twelve years ago)
Pretend you're 16.
― Cronk's Not Cronk (Eric H.), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 19:26 (twelve years ago)
lol yeah james franco is making the kind of work that would've gotten a lukewarm reception in an undergrad crit and it gets shown at pace gallery
― 1staethyr, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 19:31 (twelve years ago)
http://www.middlebrow-network.com
― ogmor, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 19:35 (twelve years ago)
Who are we, as viewers, to separate a fascinating subtext from a trivial one?
hi, I'm mh, I post on ilx
― a strange man (mh), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 19:35 (twelve years ago)
That's what makes it meta. He is a grown man commenting on the work of younger artists who imitate/pay homage to their inspirations via less than inspiring works. It's like a mirror reflecting a mirror reflecting a mirror reflecting James Franco, and if you say his name three times in the dark, he'll appear (in drag) and give you a big smooch.
It is, by the way, a two-way mirror, and he will be filming the encounter for a future installation, titled "Who's the Fairest of Them All?" In it he will appear in blackface.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 19:37 (twelve years ago)
I nominate JiC as the next franco
― a strange man (mh), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 19:37 (twelve years ago)
I mean, when treeship finally gets tired of his shtick
― a strange man (mh), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 19:38 (twelve years ago)