Another fucking spree shooting. Great.

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Is it wrong to suggest that if a mass shooting can take place on a military base, let alone the same military base, twice, where I assume the majority of people are if not trained in weapons use then at least familiar with guns, that maybe, contrary to the NRA and eager-beaver would-be citizen vigilantes, a well-trained and well-armed population may indeed have no bearing on preventing or otherwise thwarting mass shooters?

In the wake of the Navy Yard shooting, a lot of...shall we say Second Amendment zealots...pointed out that most of the people on that and other military installations are expressly forbidden to routinely carry firearms.

Are there gun-toters right now beating their chests, suggesting that if they were there on that base, packing, that this never would have happened?

Firearms advocates have said that, more or less, after every previous spree shooting, so I'm not going to go to the relevant forums to seek out exact quotes.

[That touches on what I thought was the least realistic part of Spring Breakers--during the restaurant robbery, shouldn't at least one of the patrons been carrying a real gun, and responded in what he or she thought was the right way?]

#TweetFromAnUnknownWoman (j.lu), Thursday, 3 April 2014 12:49 (twelve years ago)

Spoiler!

Just kidding. They were probably chickenshit.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 3 April 2014 13:56 (twelve years ago)

That movie looks awful anyway

Nhex, Thursday, 3 April 2014 13:57 (twelve years ago)

The NRA has so thoroughly brainwashed its members that no amount of real world facts will change the overarching narrative, which is that Obama is coming for your guns. True, he may be waiting until the end of his second term, but he's still coming for your guns, and every mass shooting is a false flag designed to facilitate this.

▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 3 April 2014 16:56 (twelve years ago)

school stabbing spree

business nerves (doo dah), Wednesday, 9 April 2014 19:33 (twelve years ago)

Ban school.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 20:45 (twelve years ago)

there was a spree-stabbing here in toronto too, in an office a friend of mine works at...
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/chuang-li-former-employee-charged-in-toronto-office-stabbings-1.2603977

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 10 April 2014 03:10 (twelve years ago)

Of course that happened at a human resources company.

take a piece of mr. baxter's hand (how's life), Thursday, 10 April 2014 10:33 (twelve years ago)

Kansas. Seems anti-Semitic in nature.

http://www.kctv5.com/story/25235053/shooting-reported-at-overland-park-jewish-community-center

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 13 April 2014 20:50 (twelve years ago)

Apparently this guy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTE0nM9lLcA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMVNmABrVq8

So despicable.

take a piece of mr. baxter's hand (how's life), Monday, 14 April 2014 13:09 (twelve years ago)

Coverage from SPLC contains this delightful tidbit:

Our research shows that racist killers are hiding among us in plain sight. A forthcoming two-year study by the SPLC will show that nearly 100 people in the last five years have been murdered by active users on another prominent racist website, Stormfront.org.

bi-polar uncle (its OK-he's dead) (Phil D.), Monday, 14 April 2014 13:39 (twelve years ago)

Did I hear correctly that two of the three people he killed were non-Jews? What a fucker.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 14 April 2014 14:14 (twelve years ago)

Yep:

Two of the victims who died were shot in a car at the community center, 5801 W. 115th St., Douglass said. One of them was William Lewis Corporon, a Johnson County doctor. The other, Reat Griffin Underwood, was Corporon’s 14-year-old grandson, who died later at Overland Park Regional Medical Center.
...
The teen and his grandfather both attended the United Methodist Church of the Resurrection in Leawood, said church spokeswoman Cathy Bien.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 14 April 2014 14:22 (twelve years ago)

Like, what put this asshole over the edge? After years and years of hating Jews and non-whites, he just wakes up one morning and says, fuck it, might as well shoot some people?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 14 April 2014 14:26 (twelve years ago)

Great question

waterbabies (waterface), Monday, 14 April 2014 14:32 (twelve years ago)

From the BBC site:

"Local TV stations broadcast footage of police arresting a suspect at the scene The man appeared to shout "Heil Hitler" from the back of a police car.

Police said the suspect was not from the area, and that he used a shotgun in the attacks. They are trying to establish whether he used other weapons in addition.

The attack took place just before the Jewish festival of Passover, but police have declined to say whether the incident is linked to anti-semitism."

Not jumping to easy conclusions is entirely laudable but...

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Monday, 14 April 2014 14:52 (twelve years ago)

It's probably for legal/procedural reasons, I think they already went as far as to say that they're investigating it as a hate crime; same reason they have to say "alleged suspect"

Nhex, Monday, 14 April 2014 15:02 (twelve years ago)

another stabbing spree

wtf.

business nerves (doo dah), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 23:22 (twelve years ago)

This is what happens when you take guns away from people. Way to go, Obama.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 23:31 (twelve years ago)

Wait this was in Canada? There's still got to be some way to blame this on Obama.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 23:32 (twelve years ago)

fuck. this is the first one in California in a loooooong time (I can't remember the last one. the 101 California shooting in the 90s maybe?)

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Possible-gunman-at-Daly-City-medical-building-5425445.php

How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 22:57 (twelve years ago)

oikos university shooting in oakland only two years ago.

wmlynch, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 23:18 (twelve years ago)

fuck. this is the first one in California in a loooooong time (I can't remember the last one. the 101 California shooting in the 90s maybe?)

Uh, dude?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oikos_University_shooting

, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 23:25 (twelve years ago)

Whoops wmlynch on the track

, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 23:27 (twelve years ago)

if we're talking california, there was the salon shooting in seal beach a couple years ago too.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 23:30 (twelve years ago)

Kennesaw, Georgia

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fedex-facility-shooting-prompts-massive-police-response-n92186

Alvarius B. Goode (WilliamC), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 12:39 (twelve years ago)

7:55 a.m.: Michael Hogland, a ground driver at the FedEx facility at McCollum Field, said, “(My boss) called me about 6 o’clock this morning saying there was a guy inside. Shot a security guard. He had a gun pointed at (my boss) and said, ‘Don’t worry about getting here on time.’ “

from: http://www.ajc.com/news/news/cobb-police-investigating-shooting-at-fedex-facili/nfkNR/

Alvarius B. Goode (WilliamC), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 12:44 (twelve years ago)

Unconfirmed reports of at least 3 or 4 people shot dead at James Blake's house.

http://deadspin.com/at-least-three-bodies-found-in-fire-at-james-blakes-hou-1572881786

Yuri Bashment (ShariVari), Wednesday, 7 May 2014 14:36 (twelve years ago)

less "spree" and more "assassination" based on that report

chillin' on an "awesome pretzel" hoagie (DJP), Wednesday, 7 May 2014 14:38 (twelve years ago)

jfc at the comments, already!

djenter the dragon? (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 7 May 2014 14:47 (twelve years ago)

i hope the arthur ashe commenter gets a firework strapped to his head. what is wrong with people

lex pretend, Wednesday, 7 May 2014 15:01 (twelve years ago)

Indeed

What type of firework, out of interest

james lipton and his francs (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 May 2014 20:05 (twelve years ago)

not really a 'spree' but grim enough for the thread

http://www.startribune.com/local/east/258322291.html

goole, Wednesday, 7 May 2014 20:23 (twelve years ago)

Jesus.

how's life, Wednesday, 7 May 2014 20:46 (twelve years ago)

two weeks pass...

This guy appears to have just killed seven people in Isla Vista.

http://youtu.be/sbv5Vpa-B-0

Yuri Bashment (ShariVari), Saturday, 24 May 2014 13:23 (twelve years ago)

what a sad fucking POS

christmas candy bar (al leong), Saturday, 24 May 2014 13:26 (twelve years ago)

ugh. couldn't make it through that. so sad about the lives lost.

how's life, Saturday, 24 May 2014 13:32 (twelve years ago)

http://puahate.com/showthread.php?t=139474

Don't know anything about this site but seems like he was in deep w some real creeps

christmas candy bar (al leong), Saturday, 24 May 2014 13:38 (twelve years ago)

Jimmy Chang, a reporter for the UCSB newspaper and senior at the school, said he spoke with a female student who said the gunman opened fire on her as she was walking on an Isla Vista street.

"He actually drove across street to meet her," Chang said, repeating the witness' account. "The guy stuck his head out and says, 'Hey, what are you doing,' She ignored him, thinking he was just the 'typical, Isla Vista douche bag.' The guy pulled out a gun and shot at her. The bullet missed her head. She said she thought it was a BB gun, and she just kept walking faster."

jfc

een, Saturday, 24 May 2014 13:58 (twelve years ago)

this is the banner moment for the fedora red pill brigade finally realising they're human shit

verhzleyavbtreleambreb (imago), Saturday, 24 May 2014 14:02 (twelve years ago)

possibly

verhzleyavbtreleambreb (imago), Saturday, 24 May 2014 14:02 (twelve years ago)

doubtful tbh

Reading that thread I linked to is like going into a dimension of self delusion and misogyny and reading thoughts from people who are never challenged on their creepiness bc they just talk to others who encourage it.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Saturday, 24 May 2014 14:09 (twelve years ago)

christ, couldn't watch that video for more than a few seconds.

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 24 May 2014 14:19 (twelve years ago)

entitlement is a very dangerous thing.

building a desert (art), Saturday, 24 May 2014 14:28 (twelve years ago)

Yeah, seriously. I made it a bit over halfway, but the guy is literally saying "not fucking me is a crime for which you will pay with your life". FFS.

emil.y, Saturday, 24 May 2014 14:46 (twelve years ago)

What the fucking fuck

the glimmer man (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 24 May 2014 14:47 (twelve years ago)

those posted YT videos look like a satire, his laugh is pure drama club overacting villain

nauru, Saturday, 24 May 2014 14:59 (twelve years ago)

Ucsb is a horrible place right now. Recent headlines include meningitis, rape and murder.

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Saturday, 24 May 2014 15:47 (twelve years ago)

'isla vista' is not the same thing as 'ucsb'

the glimmer man (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 24 May 2014 15:57 (twelve years ago)

but yes, isla vista has many problems

the glimmer man (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 24 May 2014 16:01 (twelve years ago)


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