Why I hate the Daily Mail, as distilled into one edition

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I wondered why all of my Pavement records went so speedily to MVE a while back! (Momus xpost)

I blame the abolition of Old Labour.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 22 September 2005 07:53 (twenty years ago)

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Malkmus made snidey comments about "leftists" on "Embassy Row" years back. He's probably worried they'd make him get his haircut and stop mumbling.

― I'm a Problem for Anthony Blair (noodle vague), Thursday, 22 September 2005 07:54 (twenty years ago)

On page seven there's a bit about how Labour has failed our schools, which cites as evidence a new report saying too few state school pupils are getting into top universities. Last week they ran a piece complaining about socialist do-gooders forcing clever private school pupils out of top universities by giving their places to the great unwashed.

Damned if you do, etc etc.

― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Thursday, 22 September 2005 07:54 (twenty years ago)

Steve Malkmus is the preppiest musician I have ever met.

― suzy (suzy), Thursday, 22 September 2005 07:55 (twenty years ago)

I thought he gave up trying to be Mark E. Smith years ago? Apparently not. (xpost)

Last week they ran a piece complaining about socialist do-gooders forcing clever private school pupils out of top universities by giving their places to the great unwashed.

And the week before that and the week before that and the week before that and the week before that and the week before that and the week before that and the week before that and the week before that and the week before that and the week before that and the week before that and the week before that and the week before that and the week before that and the week before that

― Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 22 September 2005 07:56 (twenty years ago)

x-post But don't ridiculous leftists exist? I know some.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 22 September 2005 07:56 (twenty years ago)

x-post But don't ridiculous leftists exist? I know some.

THERE MIGHT BE ONE IN OUR MIDST, DR C.

HI MOMUS.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 22 September 2005 07:57 (twenty years ago)

Mail headline in about a month's time: "SEND FERAL YOUTH BACK UP THE CHIMNEYS!" Simon Heffer-Heffer writes.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 22 September 2005 07:57 (twenty years ago)

er, except the two things don't contradict each other? obviously they need to end private education and level the field, unless we're to 'enjoy' the same kind of horrible 'affirmative action' debate (on class as much as race lines) here as they had in the states (obv this probably isn't the mail's view...)

― N_RQ, Thursday, 22 September 2005 07:58 (twenty years ago)

The first person I remember using the phrase "feral youth" was Jonathan Miller - go figure, as the Merkins have it

― Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:01 (twenty years ago)

p49: "Ruthless, career-minded women. An underclass of weak, emasculated men." - Readers' sexual fantasies revealed.

― I'm a Problem for Anthony Blair (noodle vague), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:01 (twenty years ago)

Amanda Platell writes (and hopefully does quite a lot of other things...).

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:02 (twenty years ago)

p49: "Ruthless, career-minded woman. An underclass of weak, emasculated men." - Shurely Margaret Thatcher's entire career as PM in a nutshell ("nutcase more like")

― Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:05 (twenty years ago)

I never quite understood what Alan Clark saw in her.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:06 (twenty years ago)

His nanny, surely?

― suzy (suzy), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:07 (twenty years ago)

Well yes I understand the maternal thing (boy do I understand it), but...Thatcher sexy? Surely the oxymoron to end all political oxymorons?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:08 (twenty years ago)

Ha ha, I was just remembering the kind of slavering and slobbering all those perverse old Tories used to do over her. Repulsive. You could almost see the drool escaping out of the corners of their mouths.

― Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:09 (twenty years ago)

Where's Wilhelm Reich when you need him? Writing for the Daily Sport probably.

― Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:10 (twenty years ago)

I don't think Reich could explain this one. De Sade, possibly.

― I'm a Problem for Anthony Blair (noodle vague), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:13 (twenty years ago)

De Sade could describe it but I don't think he couild explain it

― Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:14 (twenty years ago)

Kate, re big bang, both, but largely the former than the latter, admittedly. Things have started getting v.interesting in cosmology over the last couple of years. Dark energy, the return of the cosmological constant, stuff like that. Big bang still orthodoxy, but by no means universally accepted.

Thatcher = ewwww obv, but A.Hollinghurst's stuff about her in The Line Of Beauty does a good job of making you see her through the eyes of all those slavering Tory MPs.

― RickyT (RickyT), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:22 (twenty years ago)

On the cover of the Sunday Times Magazine a couple of years ago there was Edwina Currie, perched on a motorbike dressed head to toe in leather.

I didn't think it was possible for any woman dressed head to toe in leather to appear utterly unsexy, but Ms Currie proved me wrong. Put me right off my breakfast, I can tell you.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:28 (twenty years ago)

I bet it put Norma Major off her breakfast too.

I'm amazed the council tax story isn't front page.

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:31 (twenty years ago)

I bet it put Norma Major off her breakfast too.

But I'll bet John had something extra white and creamy on his Weetabix that morning..... urgggggggghhh, did I just say that??!??!

― Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:33 (twenty years ago)

Gawd, Norma Major, there's another ravishing beauty. Didn't Thatcher's successor as PM have such delectable taste in ladies?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:34 (twenty years ago)

Take one look at the man, and ask yourself if you think he could've done any better.

― I'm a Problem for Anthony Blair (noodle vague), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:42 (twenty years ago)

People, this I keep reiterating: there is a direct correlation between 'newspapers currently sticking the boot into Kate Moss' and 'newspapers which have had to apologise/pay damages to Kate Moss for calling her a druggie in the past'. They must have had to pay up a LOT of money.

I have been made to feel VERY uncool by certain fashion-industry colleagues for my refusal to snort this shit; when I told my former boss I wasn't keen on putting stuff up my nose generally she said 'just rub it on your gums instead' as if it was not the drug itself I was objecting to.

― suzy (suzy), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:50 (twenty years ago)

This is why I'm just so pleased by the whole thing. (I kept trying to tell AMP and Anna this last night when they were all "why are they making such a big deal out of it?")

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:52 (twenty years ago)

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It's the Philip Larkin syndrome again - you think, blimey, he looked like that and yet he had three women on the go!

Then you look at the women and realise they all looked like him.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:52 (twenty years ago)

What, they all looked like Eric Morecambe?

― Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:54 (twenty years ago)

many believe the big bang theory is wrong

many Daily Mail readers. not actual scientists or anything.

So why did Radio 5 wake me up with the words "...which may change the way we look at the creation of the universe via the Big Bang" yesterday morning? (I can't answer this question as I immediately clicked the snooze button, but I'd be surprised if they're giving too much airspace to creationism).

RickyT, if you have any links to recent cosmological updates, do post them!

― Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:54 (twenty years ago)

I'd say Larkin looked more like Phil Silvers than Morecambe.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:55 (twenty years ago)

I have revived a physics thread so we can keep the non-media chatter off this thread:

anyone know anything about astrophysics? i have a question about the universe

(Even if scientists manage to completely disprove the Big Bang, that doesn't make Creationism any more likely or even possible.)

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:57 (twenty years ago)

I'd say Larkin looked more like Phil Silvers than Morecambe.

Ruggish!

― Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:58 (twenty years ago)

Morecambe, though, had better taste in jazz than Larkin. He had that Derek Bailey in his backing band once, you know.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:59 (twenty years ago)

He was a much better novelist too

― Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 22 September 2005 09:00 (twenty years ago)

http://www.trashfiction.co.uk/mr_lonely.jpg

― Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 22 September 2005 09:01 (twenty years ago)

"when I told my former boss I wasn't keen on putting stuff up my nose generally she said 'just rub it on your gums instead'"

You owe me a new keyboard. I sneezed coffee all over my current one when I read this...

― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Thursday, 22 September 2005 09:02 (twenty years ago)

Some advice - don't drink coffee while using a computer, rub it on your gums instead

― Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 22 September 2005 09:04 (twenty years ago)

Hands up, anyone who has actually snorted instant coffee crystals...

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 22 September 2005 09:05 (twenty years ago)

How are you able to type with one hand Kate?

― Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 22 September 2005 09:09 (twenty years ago)

Grafitti in the toilets at Hull University's library frequently referred to him as Phil "Silvers" Larkin. I love the man almost as much as Eric, though.

― I'm a Problem for Anthony Blair (noodle vague), Thursday, 22 September 2005 09:11 (twenty years ago)

I have never snorted instant coffee! I've only ever rubbed it on my gums!

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 22 September 2005 09:12 (twenty years ago)

Even if Larkin did resemble Bilko, according to all reliable evidence, he was, shall we say, very well equipped...

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 22 September 2005 09:16 (twenty years ago)

i remember a colleague snorting vodka at a Melody Maker All Star Xmas Cocktails competition years ago. it made him weep, and sarah cracknell laughed at him.

― foxy boxer (stevie), Thursday, 22 September 2005 11:50 (twenty years ago)

I have snorted instant coffee. And I would gladly do it again.

― tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Thursday, 22 September 2005 12:04 (twenty years ago)

another heartwarming thread about a british newspaper. i love you all

― j/k, Thursday, 22 September 2005 12:32 (twenty years ago)

anyone who turns down free cocaine is not fit to be a parent

― Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:58 (twenty years ago)

p46-47: the "disturbing truth" about the white British women who have sex with black men in the Gambia.

What is the disturbing truth then?

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:18 (twenty years ago)

BLACK MEN HAVE ENORMOUS PENISES

― Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:25 (twenty years ago)

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I didn't know the Mail was about to go after the Lawrence family (not exactly surprising).

― xyzzzz__, Friday, 7 October 2022 09:23 (three years ago)

I knew about the Dacre connection but imagined they were just ignoring the story, rather than planning a hit-piece

― politics is about vibes and the vibes are off (stevie), Friday, 7 October 2022 10:38 (three years ago)

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