-- 2 american 4 u (n...), November 20th, 2006.
I'm gonna go ahead and disagree there. Although I think it was a combo of writing and the entire cast that made the show so successful, I think the Kramer character was near or at the top for ability to make people laugh. Being typecast because you played a certain character so well doesn't mean you are an 'unfunny' comedian.
Asshole racist? Evidently. Not funny outside of that hateful context? No.
― shorty (shorty), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:28 (seventeen years ago) link
no, this is obviously the work of H.E. Pennypacker
― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:28 (seventeen years ago) link
― deej.. (deej..), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:29 (seventeen years ago) link
― 2 american 4 u (blueski), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:29 (seventeen years ago) link
― The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:31 (seventeen years ago) link
Or maybe I just don't like the idea of branding people with a capital R. = Or maybe I just don't like the idea of branding people with a capital N.
― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:32 (seventeen years ago) link
WTF to that logic?
― jonviachicago (jonviachicago), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:32 (seventeen years ago) link
― mahalo 4 ur kokua (grady), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:32 (seventeen years ago) link
― 2 american 4 u (blueski), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:32 (seventeen years ago) link
― anticon jemima (ooo), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― Bobby Ganush (Uri Frendimein), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:33 (seventeen years ago) link
KKKramer!!!!
― mahalo 4 ur kokua (grady), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:33 (seventeen years ago) link
xpost
― ^@^ (map), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:33 (seventeen years ago) link
i was tempted to do a lame zing abotu Richards having appeared in the movie Coneheads
― 2 american 4 u (blueski), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:34 (seventeen years ago) link
― geoff (gcannon), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― Bobby Ganush (Uri Frendimein), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:36 (seventeen years ago) link
― Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:36 (seventeen years ago) link
not true! he had 8 episodes shot of The Michael Richards Show in 2000. he also had bit parts in Coneheads and Airheads so therefore that heckler jerk is just downright wrong.
― ath (ath), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:37 (seventeen years ago) link
― stoked for the madness (nickalicious), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:38 (seventeen years ago) link
― the car, the hole, and the peekskill meteorite (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:39 (seventeen years ago) link
― deej.. (deej..), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:40 (seventeen years ago) link
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:40 (seventeen years ago) link
― The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:40 (seventeen years ago) link
― The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:41 (seventeen years ago) link
"Just because he murdered someone doesn't mean he's necessarily a murderer."
This is different. A murderer is defined as someone who has murdered, and that's a fact that's easily proven most of the time on account of the victim being dead.
A racist is someone who discriminates against those of another race, or merely believes in the inferiority of another race. But we can't always prove someone's belief unless the person totally owns up to it, and we can always argue about what counts as discrimination, and/or how much of it is sufficient to definitively incriminate someone.
― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:42 (seventeen years ago) link
― The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:43 (seventeen years ago) link
― jonviachicago (jonviachicago), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:45 (seventeen years ago) link
― geoff (gcannon), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:46 (seventeen years ago) link
― deej.. (deej..), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:46 (seventeen years ago) link
― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:47 (seventeen years ago) link
― Bobby Ganush (Uri Frendimein), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:49 (seventeen years ago) link
― deej.. (deej..), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:49 (seventeen years ago) link
― anticon jemima (ooo), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:51 (seventeen years ago) link
The tape started when he started his attack, so we don't get to hear the heckler's attack, which could either mitigate or damn Richards. We don't know what was said, but if the heckler was being racist, there is a point to be made: less than 50 years ago, black people were being hunted down in the US because of racists and racism, and now this guy's being casually racist? Here, what if he calls you a nigger? Does that make you realise what's you're doing?
On my first watching of it, that's what I interpreted it as, at least, because that was all that really made sense. All the other alternatives do damn him as a racist, but doing that on an out-of-context 2 minute clip is a bit much.
― stet (stet), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:51 (seventeen years ago) link
― The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:52 (seventeen years ago) link
― Bobby Ganush (Uri Frendimein), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:52 (seventeen years ago) link
O-T-M
― deej.. (deej..), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:52 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:53 (seventeen years ago) link
― stet (stet), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:54 (seventeen years ago) link
― The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:55 (seventeen years ago) link
Dan, this is exactly my point. What he did was horrible, but people here seemed overly interested in now being able to call him a RACIST.
― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:55 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:56 (seventeen years ago) link
― Allyzay Eisenschefter (allyzay), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:56 (seventeen years ago) link
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:56 (seventeen years ago) link
― Noilly Prat (kenan), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:56 (seventeen years ago) link
― deej.. (deej..), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:57 (seventeen years ago) link
― stet (stet), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:57 (seventeen years ago) link
― elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:58 (seventeen years ago) link
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:58 (seventeen years ago) link
i know no one knew what racism was in 2006 or whatever but fucking hell
Is your experience so limited that you've never seen non-racist people behave this way? I know a guy from Texas...he will say some of the most racial shit you ever heard right to a black man's face...He's a blues musician...that doesn't stop him from making chicken jokes...
― new display name (Left), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 23:07 (three years ago) link
yeah, that was called out in 2006 and isn't really in the spirit of the revive
― microsloth fig stimulator (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 8 April 2021 04:11 (three years ago) link