Malaysia Airlines MH370

ah ok... i wonder why the reprogramming went unknown until now then.

i mean, the status of the acars has been known for days.

Strange twist: political-family ties connect pilot Zaharie to Malaysia oppostion leader Anwar Ibrihim.

Zaharie attended Ibrihim's sodomy trial hours before MH370 took off.

Ibrihim has denied knowing Zaharie previously, but today admitted that he is related to his son-in-law and they've met on several occasions, underwater.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/flight-mh370-pilot-anwar-ibrahims-sodomy-trial-hours-before-take-off-1440736

LOL

Mordy you are high. Finding stuff in the fucking ocean will never not be extremely, extremely hard. Even airplanes.

no shit i mean we've had a few thousand years to work with and we still haven't identified all of the species that live in the ocean

Has this Wired piece been discussed/debunked yet? I'd like so very much for the conspiracy nonsense to be just that.

pilots: one startlingly simple trick to make your passenger plane vanish

Tin-hatty, but there is a chance, if there is a suspected or confirmed hijacking and the plane is safe somewhere, or even not safe, that authorities might be letting on less than they know as they track down people behind it. But it seems pretty unlikely they would keep everyone, including the families, in the dark for so long.

It does seems significant that the pilot was more closely involved in the political opposition than previously known and that he had attended the sentencing of its leader just hours before the flight. It does give a possible motive for trying to make the plane "disappear" - ie., in order to cause maximum embarrassment for the government.

On the last two posts, no on both counts. I've covered the transport minister a lot and can usually tell when he's trying to hide something. Either he's had better coaching lately, or he genuinely does not know that much more than he's let on.

Also the Msian government is not above character assassination (see exhibit a: Anwar Ibrahim) and you can be sure that if there was any evidence at all that the pilot was more than your average opposition supporter, the govt-aligned news orgs (including the one I work for) would be going all out on that front.

Family members of some of the Chinese passengers caused a small riot before the press conference today... Crying and wailing and accusing the govt of wasting time and withholding info. Felt really terrible for them but I genuinely think there's not much we can do unless other countries involved are willing to share vital military radar and satellite data, which most of them are not giving up right now.

They were obvs rattled by it, the pc was cut short... Only 20 mins compared to the usual 40. It's a pretty shitty situation for everyone involved. :(

The Wired piece wasn't debunked but was dismissed as unlikely because the plane made multiple turns after it passed the landing strip that piece speculates they were heading towards. Why wouldn't it land then? Why did it zig-zag to 2 different way points? Like the nutty conspiracies, that Wired piece ignores many facts.

Here's Slate debunking Wired: http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2014/03/18/mh370_disappearance_chris_goodfellow_s_theory_about_a_fire_and_langkawi.html

thx bld

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/19/world/asia/experts-see-robust-radar-along-missing-jets-potential-path.html

Investigators say that automated signals from the jet, a Boeing 777, that were picked up by a satellite more than seven hours after the plane took off indicate that by then it must have been somewhere near one of two broad arcs on the map. One arc stretches from northern Thailand and Laos through China to Kazakhstan in Central Asia; the other extends from western Indonesia into the Indian Ocean west of Australia.

The northern arc crosses some of the most closely defended borders in the world. Experts on the radar systems in use in the area say that a Boeing 777, which has a large radar profile, would more likely than not have been detected by Chinese and Indian air defense forces and by American forces in Afghanistan.

China, the original destination for the flight, is guarded by military radar systems at high elevations in its border areas and even in its interior, where the People’s Liberation Army controls most of the country’s airspace. The border between India and Pakistan is highly militarized, and radar experts and Indian military officials discounted the possibility that a jetliner could pass through the area undetected. Farther northwest, the United States Air Force has its own radar installations in Afghanistan to protect air bases there from intruders.

Quite liked this one: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/03/18/mh370_airliner_mystery_the_iel_regi_pubdinnerparty_guide/

you can be sure that if there was any evidence at all that the pilot was more than your average opposition supporter, the govt-aligned news orgs (including the one I work for) would be going all out on that front

I'm not saying they're withholding damning evidence - most likely they don't have any conclusive evidence yet. I'm just saying that based on the evidence we do have, the pilot so far is the only one with possible motive (embarrass the government) and means (flight simulator which would allow him to practice unusual sequences of operations).

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/newsgraphics/2014/03/18/malaysia-flight-promo/37bd51c35dac7197eab121fbdbbcb7880a0e4584/australia-artboard_1.png

^^^weird the text must be on a different layer.

Basically: Australian authorities identified 2 radar tracks that may have belonged to MH370 and believe the plane may have crashed off the coast of Perth and have set up a search plot in the white area.

pretty loose application of "off the coast of perth," but...yeah. why does the red arc become dotted there?

i take it that is the time extrapolation from the last satellite ping?

The plane probably ran out of ink. xpost

better scan for runways when they do a flyover

lol

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-26659951

Two objects have been seen that could possibly relate to the missing Malaysia Airlines plane, Australian PM Tony Abbott has announced.

also, that goodfellow theory has been debunked: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-echochambers-26640114

Press conference re: Abbott's announcement happening now

lol. i wouldn't be too bothered, it's a deflection ploy

Abbott's still a cunt, whether or not his military find the thing.

Well, yeah, that goes without saying

http://1.standaardcdn.be/Assets/Images_Upload/2014/03/20/wrakstukken.jpg.h380.jpg

Inclement weather was an issue on the search and retrieval, low clouds and rain impaired visibility and ocean conditions were rough.

https://twitter.com/AMSA_News/status/446583054002171904

Maybe they should have looked underwater?

what part of the plane that is that BIG could float for so long? is the fuselage foam injected carbon fiber or somthing?

could float for so long

bodies?

they said the images were possibly from four days ago. Malaysian authorities here couldn't confirm when they were taken, but probably the Aussies will clear it up tomorrow. xpost

pretty convinced at this point that malaysian authorities can't confirm jack shit, though nobody is actually tearing it up on confirmation front.

maybe it's type to enlist the services of Lorax

psh, and you guys said i was high:

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnns-don-lemon-is-it-preposterous-to-think-a-black-hole-caused-flight-370-to-go-missing/

Does anyone know the ocean's approximate depth in the region that they're looking?

Yes, underwater. That is 100% correct.

Was thinking, seems like it could be some James Cameron-type deep water.

13k ft ocean depths in the Indian Ocean but there are large ridges.

I bet Abbott has a massive chub over being able to say WE DID THIS, the little shit.

IOW lol. i wouldn't be too bothered, it's a deflection ploy

OTM.

I bet Abbott has a massive chub over being able to say WE DID THIS, the little shit.

cross post with too much time on ilx thread (not knowing, I assume, Australian politics?)

y

yeah I was really confused for a minute there

OMG yes sorry I meant Tones Abbott not our beloved Abb!

cross post with too much time on ilx thread

lol same here