Malaysia Airlines MH370

I hadn't heard of this. There's an online crowdsourced campaign to tag satellite imagery of the area, though apparently the system is overloaded currently:

http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_25327037/tomnod-campaign-missing-malaysian-jet?source=inthenews

A new update but...who knows?

http://gawker.com/the-chinese-government-has-released-satellite-images-sh-1542506193

The Chinese government has released satellite images of three floating pieces of debris that are believed to be from the missing Malaysian Airlines flight. The photos, taken on March 9, show the suspected wreckage in the South China Sea, just southeast of where Flight 370's transponder turned off.

There was a similar crowdsourced search set up on Amazon's Mechanical Turk for Steve Fossett's small plane when he disappeared in the eastern Sierras.

there was also this, which I hadn't heard about until I saw someone mention it in the gawker comments

http://mashable.com/2014/03/12/malaysia-airlines-370-search-area/

ok, this is starting to make a lot more sense than "the plane flew for another hour over multiple air force bases and international airports in two different countries before crashing in a completely different body of water hundreds of miles of course".

there was also this, which I hadn't heard about until I saw someone mention it in the gawker comments

http://mashable.com/2014/03/12/malaysia-airlines-370-search-area/

― christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, March 12, 2014 2:36 PM (33 minutes ago)

it was posted in img form upthread about 10 hours ago.

*shrug*

*killfiled*

ahh i was looking on my iphone, didn't see it.

also sorry, i can't tell if you were killfiling me for that transgression or implying i had killfiled my homie 龜 who previously posted it. the latter isn't correct, he's my bro 4 life, i just wanted to assure him of that.

What, did I just hear something? Hmmm... strange.

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i feel like i just got the death penalty for jaywalking

Ugh so if the Chinese satellite's photos are correct, I (think) that would put the wreckage right at the border between the South China Sea and the Gulf of Thailand

That puts a cloud of geopolitics over the incident - right now China's involved in a geopolitical dispute with pretty much all the SE Asia countries over who has control of the South China Sea (google "China nine dash line" for more infos)

I don't know if anybody would go so far as to accuse the Chinese government of withholding information but at the same time... I think this could be an angle?

I guess an explanation that is just as possible is taking some time to figure out whether pieces of wreckage that big could have come from a 777, which the NTSB seems to believe is not possible

i overheard a couple of people talking today how they suspected north korea might have shot the plane down since "they were flying right over north korea."

:/

Haha that's insane and stupid

But not that far fetched if they had been a little bit farther north http://edition.cnn.com/2014/03/05/world/asia/north-korea-missiles/

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/search-for-missing-malaysian-airliner-latest-possible-lead-may-be-falling-through/

Search planes dispatched by Malaysia on Thursday to examine an area where Chinese satellite images show what might be debris from the missing Malaysia Airlines jetliner didn't spot any debris, CBS News has been told.

The planes had "nil sighting," the Malaysian air force director of operations said.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304914904579434653903086282

WSJ reporting that US officials believe the plane could have flown for 4 more hours after contact was lost

Aviation investigators and national security officials believe the plane flew for a total of five hours, based on data automatically downloaded and sent to the ground from the Boeing Co. 777's engines as part of a routine maintenance and monitoring program.

I can't tell from the story if this is a confirmed fact or another theory

you'd think that landing,crashing, or fuel exhaustion would be discernible from that data

that article says the engine data is transmitted every 30 minutes. so if they have that data they'd know when the plane stopped transmitting (within half an hour) right? the article is kinda vague there.

Raids on homes of crew denied

Hussien’s sixth point was deny reports of raids on the homes of crew members.

Reports suggesting that the Malaysian police searched the homes of the MH370 crew are not true. The Royal Malaysian police have issued a statement to that effect.

Not sure why they are so quick to deny that, I would have thought it was a legitimate line of enquiry in relation to possible suicide or malpractice by the crew.

They also denied the WSJ's report that the plane may have flown for a few hours after losing contact

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/14/world/asia/missing-malaysia-airlines-flight-370.html?hp&_r=0

SEPANG, Malaysia — After four days of reticence and evasive answers, the Malaysian military acknowledged on Wednesday that it had recorded, but initially ignored, radar signals that could have prompted a mission to intercept and track a missing jetliner — data that vastly expands the area where the plane might have traveled.

More informed speculation about what might cause a transponder to stop transmitting:

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/03/12/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-transponder/

a few more details on the Indian Ocean theory

http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=22894802&ref=http%3A%2F%2Ft.co%2FKB1J9l4sPE

U.S. officials have an "indication" the missing Malaysia Airlines jetliner may have crashed in the Indian Ocean and is moving the USS Kidd to the area to begin searching.

It will take another 24 hours to move the ship into position, a senior Pentagon official told ABC News.

"We have an indication the plane went down in the Indian Ocean," the senior official said.

The official said there were indications that the plane flew four or five hours after disappearing from radar and that they believe it went into the water.

Pentagon officials said that the USS Kidd was being moved at the request of Malaysia and is heading towards an area where the Indian Ocean and the Andaman Sea meet. It has helicopters aboard that can scour the area.

Ok, so now we're back to where we were 2 days ago with a hijacking/hypoxia scenarios?

Also noted: the three large chunks of debris spotted by Chinese satellites yesterday that was consistent with an aircraft disaster was confirmed as not-wreckage (floating islands of garbage?)

i'm just assuming the plane is in antarctica

Probably should check out nearby volcanic islands for secret SPECTRE rocket bases also.

WSJ has corrected their story:

"U.S. investigators suspect Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 flew for hours past the time it reached its last confirmed location, based on an analysis of signals sent through the plane's satellite-communication link designed to automatically transmit the status of onboard systems, according to people familiar with the matter. An earlier version of this article incorrectly said investigators based their suspicions on signals from monitoring systems embedded in the plane's Rolls-Royce PLC engines and described that process."

This would jibe with the "indications" that are leading US to shift search area to Indian Ocean.

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welp

So, to summarize, what we know one week later is that a plane is missing, and by golly, someone's got to find it.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-EuzXbndPNK0/UHmcXvjLJ7I/AAAAAAAAJm8/lbkyQsksTqw/s640/One+of+Our+Aircraft+Is+Missing+%5B1942.jpg

Btw, great place to nerd out on pilot jargon, technical lore and latest-breaking informed speculation:

http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/535538-malaysian-airlines-mh370-contact-lost-147.html

Great link!

does this help?

http://static3.businessinsider.com/image/5321ea30eab8ea0e51537934-909-682/unnamed-79.jpg

this is all so depressing b/c for all the heated debate about where the plane might have crashed, it seems a certainty that it did and that everyone on it has died.

yeah, I was holding out hope at least for the first day or so that maybe they survived and just had no cell phone access but their deaths seem a foregone conclusion now, sadly. a silver lining will at least be some closure for the families, but my guess is there are no survivors. still...who knows.

just saw my first FB friend say she thinks this is a gov't conspiracy/cover up, the humorous thing being that she thinks it happened before the crash, ie they were involved. O.....k. Though something has to be said for the way the Malaysian gov't and military have at times obfuscated details.

(though that points to ineptitude, not conspiracy)

Though something has to be said for the way the Malaysian gov't and military have at times obfuscated details.

They probably

1) haven't handled a crash of an internationally-bound passenger jet for a long time, if ever

2) probably aren't used to handling things with a lot of transparency

This is tacky and tasteless but may help diffuse the ridiculous frustration of losing a plane in the NSA/Big Brother age.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BiouXtOCAAEcPTI.jpg

^^^Caption: Malaysian Airlines Expands Investigation To Include General Scope Of Space, Time (c) The Onion

shouldn't the plane be inside the cones? because it looks like it's violated the space-time continuum.

It should also resemble a DeLorean more closely

DEVIL'S ADVOCATE TIME!:

Just because the engines were sending out pings, does that mean that the aircraft was in flight? Say the plane went down and the fuel lines and power were not damaged, the engines could still be running, yes?*

*source: LOST season 1 pilot episode.

And then I see this:
https://twitter.com/han_horan/status/444240397427306496

http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/for/4370884298.html

It seems to be that the only (admittedly implausible) theory with no contradictions is that the plane landed somewhere and they're hiding it in a hangar, or somewhere else. Why is no one seriously discussing this possibility?

...could be an abandoned airport?

cos there's no way that happened