Star Trek: Classic or Dud?

That's a good, honest response. He obviously wanted to do more with Voyager, but rebooting BSG gave him a lot more freedom that he would have otherwise.

ya exactly

bsg makes a lot of sense if you keep voyager in mind then

voyager could have ended up at the galactic boundary to find ronald moore reading a newspaper.

The Year of Hell story arc in Voyager puts them in much more dire circumstances and the ship is all beat to hell for an extended amount of time. But then it's a whole timeline tampering episode and they fix everything by the end and Voyager is once again pristine.

I remember liking that one. Great premise, Kurtwood Smith, etc.

The alien convoy premise could have been such a fantastic show. Damn.

there's a very strange episode about historical revisionism where the doctor is activated after centuries by a culture that blames voyager for some political atrocity, but it curves back in on itself because there doesn't seem to be any way that this episode could have happened, because the doctor wasn't separated from voyager, and it isn't a parallel timeline or anything weird like that.

7 of 9 => 6
Holodoc => Balthar
Chakotay => Tigh
Neelix => Apollo in the fat suit

Chakotay => Tigh

"Pfff"

wait does => indicate parallel or superiority?

Parallel...ish.

Hey guys, I'm watching BSG for the first time at the moment, so it'd be nice if you didn't post any spoilers about it to the Star Trek thread. (General conversation/comparisons are okay, but I'd hate to accidentally catch some major plot point.)

Noted. I look forward to hearing what you think about BSG.

My advice: Don't let the haters get you done. And never read the BSG thread.

I'm in the middle of season 2, and I've been reading the season 1 and 2 threads, and they generally seem to be full of praise. When do the haters appear?

Rumblings begin in season 3. Out in full force by the end of season 3.

you will finally understand the mystery of carl agatha's display name

Jeff otm. If you really feel masochistic, read the thread after you're done with the whole series, but don't look until then

if you really feel masochistic, watch the whole series

Meanwhile in a random related Trek bit -- hadn't realized until I actually saw it that Brannon Braga directed the first episode of the new Cosmos and apparently is one of the producers or executive producers as well. Made a LOT of sense that there was a certain Trek feel to the space sequences as a result.

Was Ron Moore involved with 24, too?
Lot more trek cameos in 24.

Oh yeah at the beginning of cosmos I thought they were going to sing ITS BEEN A LONNNNNG ROAAAAAD

does cosmos go into the whole klingons thing

oh god the enterprise theme song

Cosmos actually had a Mass Effect feel to me.

v curious about Tuomas reaction to BSG's later seasons

my prob with later seasons of BSG was there was too much confusion, and I couldn't get no relief

spoiler

I honestly love the yacht-rocky Enterprise theme - certainly beats Voyager and DS9

Same!

The DS9 theme song (original version), is my favorite of the entire franchise.

lol I said to Mr Veg that the Cosmos theme sounded like a mashup of DS9 and Enterprise

with a little bit of theme song from Elf thrown in :)

omgggggggggg I love the DS9 theme. Or at least from seasons 1-3. They changed it in season 4 and I don't like that one as much.

i never much liked the spinoff themes but appreciated that they tried to embed some kind of continuity within the theme songs by putting a little snippet of another trek theme inside it.
i always found it weird how the paramount fanfare at the end sounded so close to the star wars theme though.

the enterprise theme song is one of the worst things foisted on the human race, ever

I sing it at my cat when he's been a shithead

i'm cooking dog foooooooood
cause you've been a real shitheaaaad

I love the Ron Jones-era music (they fired him in the fourth season I believe). It's totally John Carpenter-esque and weird and great. The music gets pretty boring after he left.

OTM, I really dig the Ron jones sound.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/Inuxx/vlcsnap-00001_zps19cdcf20.png

oh god it's the Next Generation episode where Data learns about "humour" from holodeck Joe Piscopo

he does have the good grace to admit that "jokes aren't my forte" at least

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/04/07/star-trek-actress-lends-her-gravitas-to-film-promoting-idea-that-sun-revolves-around-earth/

well okay.

About one in four Americans believe in geocentrism, which places the Earth at the center of the universe and the sun, planets, and stars revolving around it.

Oof. I'm hoping Mulgrew didn't know what she was in for.

Her brother is a colleague of mine at work, and the impression that I get is that she's a little cuckoo.

She's very pro-life, too.

:(

Is she herself geocentric?

Maybe get time in prison affected her more than we realized.