Larry Charles to direct Borat movie

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finally the al/nate rumble that will destroy us all

1) No, I concede whatever might have been at stake here.
2) "Finally"?

― nate p. (natepatrin), Friday, 10 November 2006 21:23 (nineteen years ago)

omg balls in the face! hahahahahaha. no.

No, that was pretty hilarious

― deej.. (deej..), Friday, 10 November 2006 21:25 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, the entire audience was in hysterics during that entire scene.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 10 November 2006 21:28 (nineteen years ago)

Even if the balls in the face wasn't hilarious (and it was) the fight continuing through the hotel, onto the elevator and into the real estate conference was.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 10 November 2006 21:28 (nineteen years ago)

because they're balls, right! and plus the guy was fat! high five!
(was anybody else cringing at the eddie murphy trailer aka let's laugh at the fatties?)

― Chesty Joe Morgan (Chesty Joe Morgan), Friday, 10 November 2006 21:29 (nineteen years ago)

This is the first movie ever that got positive reviews to have "AUDIENCE REACTIONS" shots in a trailer, right?

― dommy p is alright WHICH IS A LOT MORE THAN I CAN SAY ABOUT A LOT OF PEOPLE (Dom, Friday, 10 November 2006 21:29 (nineteen years ago)

(UK TV trailer, at least)

― dommy p is alright WHICH IS A LOT MORE THAN I CAN SAY ABOUT A LOT OF PEOPLE (Dom, Friday, 10 November 2006 21:30 (nineteen years ago)

Crucially, the awkward pause in the elevator

xp The first Jackass movie had plenty of those in the TV trailers.

― nate p. (natepatrin), Friday, 10 November 2006 21:30 (nineteen years ago)

"how's that jaw-dropping? it's awful, sure, and sad, but that's pretty much what like half of america thinks!"

Half of America makes my jaw-drop then with its awfulness.

-- Alex in SF (clobberthesauru...), November 10th, 2006.

fair enough!

just, where i live, i'm surrounded by this kind of thinking, so it's not shocking at all to me, just depressing...

― latebloomer and his 'Cyborg Companion', Hacker (latebloomer), Friday, 10 November 2006 21:33 (nineteen years ago)

Norbit = Eddie pretending to be fat and stealing jokes from the "Homer needs to lose weight (and Marge paints Mr. Burns naked)" episode
Borat = real actual fat dude deciding to use his fatness as some sort of self-deprecating/self-aware comedy vehicle

― nate p. (natepatrin), Friday, 10 November 2006 21:35 (nineteen years ago)

Plus two straight guys straddling eachother like that is always funny. See NFL, etc.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 10 November 2006 21:36 (nineteen years ago)

Another crucial point is that the producer's weight is never explicitly mentioned or focused on, at least as far as I can remember. We see Borat naked as much as we do the producer, but for some reason his producer's obesity is a fat joke simply because it exists.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 10 November 2006 21:50 (nineteen years ago)

ok what about the bear though? was the bear in on the borat character, or was he duped too? there was an awful lot of bear footage, so you'd think it would be hard to keep up the act? but he seemed to be acting pretty genuine and not staged too, so...

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 10 November 2006 22:03 (nineteen years ago)

Was he really eaten??!

― nate p. (natepatrin), Friday, 10 November 2006 22:04 (nineteen years ago)

maybe that's why the couldn't find him to interview for the article?

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 10 November 2006 22:04 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, you know, I don't usually laugh at stuff like that, but the Borat/Azamat wrestling scene was HILARIOUS, mostly just because of how far they went with it (in terms of how graphic the nudity was and also how they extended the scene into the rest of the hotel).

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 10 November 2006 22:12 (nineteen years ago)

wrestling naked in front of a meeting of mortgage brokers=FUNNY
30 second closeup of dude's nuts on another dude's chin=not so much.

― Chesty Joe Morgan (Chesty Joe Morgan), Friday, 10 November 2006 22:18 (nineteen years ago)

Haha even you describing it sounds funny.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 10 November 2006 22:19 (nineteen years ago)

Nuts are funny.

― Fleischhutliebe! like a warm, furry meatloaf (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Friday, 10 November 2006 22:19 (nineteen years ago)

of course they are.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 10 November 2006 22:57 (nineteen years ago)

i like when he threw his bag down and there was a muffled chicken squawk

― am0n (am0n), Saturday, 11 November 2006 02:08 (nineteen years ago)

i just saw this. i need to bathe my eyes in corrosive acid for the next twenty years. also, i may require someone to help me get my jaw up off the floor.

wow. that was like stroszek meets the jerk.

― diane airbus (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 11 November 2006 02:20 (nineteen years ago)

Does that mean we can get Paul Banks to try and hang himself while watching this only to have him magically invent a new kind of eyeglasses?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 11 November 2006 02:25 (nineteen years ago)

For Bay Area ilx0rs, Sasha Baron Cohen is going to make an appearance tomorrow night at the Camera 7 in San Jose. I am going -- any others?

― c('°c) (Leee), Saturday, 11 November 2006 02:43 (nineteen years ago)

what is the 'camera 7'? a cineplex?

― something less threatening (heywood), Saturday, 11 November 2006 04:53 (nineteen years ago)

A small, possibly art-house theater, I think.

― c('°c) (Leee), Saturday, 11 November 2006 05:16 (nineteen years ago)

can anyone recommend some good movies like borat but about black people? you know, white people acting out their favorite black stereotypes. that would be great, thanks.

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Saturday, 11 November 2006 07:08 (nineteen years ago)

That was his previous film.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Saturday, 11 November 2006 13:16 (nineteen years ago)

at least two staged scenes: borat kidnapping pamela and borat busting into the mortgage brokes association. there are stunt coordinators listed for each in the credits. i am willing to believe that just about nobody but pamela and the security guards knew what to expect in those scenes, though. i mean, put an audience full of extras together and tell them you're filming an infomercial, then have hell break loose. that'll get candid reactions, even if the people are "actors".

everything else seemed real enough to me.

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Saturday, 11 November 2006 22:32 (nineteen years ago)

Two of the frat boys are suing. My employer has a piece about the suit here:

http://www.onpointnews.com/

I did think the scene seemed a little over-the-top, not like they weren't real, but like they'd been kind of encouraged to say certain sorts of things before the camera started rolling - the way the one dude asks him right off "SO WHAT ABOUT THE BABES MAN!"

― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Monday, 13 November 2006 01:00 (nineteen years ago)

BTW, I didn't like most of the movie, but if you're in NYC and you can't get tix, I recommend taking the PATH to the first stop on the other side of the Hudson and seeing it at the Newport Centre cinema. Waltzed right in at showtime and got good seats.

― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Monday, 13 November 2006 01:05 (nineteen years ago)

I just saw this a few hours ago, and I'm STILL roffling at the retarded brother breaking out of his cage to get the vagina. I think it was his face as he told the story.

― aesthetically pleasing, in other words 'fly' (kenan), Monday, 13 November 2006 03:25 (nineteen years ago)

like they'd been kind of encouraged to say certain sorts of things before the camera started rolling

I think it's equally likely that they were just drunk and there was suddenly a camera in the room.

― aesthetically pleasing, in other words 'fly' (kenan), Monday, 13 November 2006 03:27 (nineteen years ago)

I loved it OMG BOB BARR'S FACE

― J (Jay), Monday, 13 November 2006 03:33 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, this is kind of an instant classic, innit?

― aesthetically pleasing, in other words 'fly' (kenan), Monday, 13 November 2006 03:38 (nineteen years ago)

My main problems were these:

1) If you've already seen lots of Ali G episodes, some of the schtick felt too well-worn. Jagshemash, eetsa nice, etc. - it was like an SNL movie

2) Too much Jackass-level grossout humor (although Jackass is ok when that's what you're in the mood for)

3) Too much straight-up meanness

4) Most of the better scenes, i.e. the rodeo, were spoiled in advance by reviews (not the movie's fault, of course)

5) All of the good parts would have been just fine as bits in the show. The attempts to hold this together as a movie (the 'plot', the producer character, all scenes involing only actors) fell flat.

― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Monday, 13 November 2006 03:44 (nineteen years ago)

'Then one day he broke his cage and got this' - best joke of the movie

― milo z (mlp), Monday, 13 November 2006 03:45 (nineteen years ago)

I and the three people I saw it with all had basically the same reaction - we laughed very hard at times but generally felt like Jody did (wanting to wash our eyes with corrosive acid, etc.)

― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Monday, 13 November 2006 03:47 (nineteen years ago)

xpost I KNOW. Some kind of untouchable comedy formula at work there. Maybe the way he revealed the "getting it" and the fact that he was in a cage in the same breath. I nearly peed.

― aesthetically pleasing, in other words 'fly' (kenan), Monday, 13 November 2006 03:48 (nineteen years ago)

And better yet, the "comedy" instructor laughed, too, right before telling him that it's not funny.

― aesthetically pleasing, in other words 'fly' (kenan), Monday, 13 November 2006 03:56 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Movies/11/12/box.office.ap/index.html?eref=yahoo

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 13 November 2006 05:12 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.popmatters.com/pm/blogs/shortends_post/7613/the-front-page-whorat

Yawn.

― StanM (StanM), Monday, 13 November 2006 09:29 (nineteen years ago)

"Would the Anthem scene work if you knew that... the collapsing horse was merely a happy accident, not the result of Cohen’s performance?"

WAHT? THE HORSE WAS NOT UPSET BY HIS DESECRATION OF THE NATIONAL ANTHEM?

― ledge (ledge), Monday, 13 November 2006 09:54 (nineteen years ago)

white people acting out their favorite black stereotypes

Robert Downey Sr's Putney Swope?

The per-screen average falling by 2/3 essentially shows that ppl who thought the studio goofed by opening it in "only" 800 theaters are likely fulla shit.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 13 November 2006 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

I find it strange that anyone thought the prostitute was real - of course it was a fucking actress. Does anyone actually think a real prostitute would get all starry-eyed for a john that took her home?

― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Monday, 13 November 2006 14:33 (nineteen years ago)

i thought she was real (on first viewing) - no, not for the john, for the chunk of production budget. play your cards right that could add up to a pretty lucrative night's work without having to even get naked.

but no, i saw an interview later - she was in some other movie.

fooled again.

― beeble (beeble), Monday, 13 November 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

hahaha

Even more intriguing are hints that scripted elements were used, along with professional camerawork, all in an effort to make sure the scene went off perfectly.

PROFESSIONAL camerwork, you say?!

jeez, we can add these guys to teh douchebags list.

― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 13 November 2006 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

She was way too into Borat to be real.

― Beth S. (Ex Leon), Monday, 13 November 2006 15:27 (nineteen years ago)

Its hilarious to me how confused everyone seems to be about the 'real/fake' issue.

The plot itself is obviously 'not real' - its merely a framework on which to hang the improvised scenes. The prostitute's involvement in the plot wasn't "real" but there was some question as to whether her initial appearance was. As it turned out, she was an actress but I don't think anyone was confused as to her falling in love with Borat being fictional.

Nonetheless the scenes of them 'out on the town' appeared as if they were filmed 'in reality'

― deej.. (deej..), Monday, 13 November 2006 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

The horse falling over was obviously a reaction to the crowd's raucous behavior.

You've clearly never known any frat boys.

― deej.. (deej..), Monday, 13 November 2006 16:13 (nineteen years ago)

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