grilled (proper grilled like)
Still trying to understand what equipment and method this involves east of the Atlantic. Is there any fat (butter/margarine/oil) applied to the outward facing side of the bread? If not, does the bread not scorch?
I remember when dubbed Iron Chef episodes came over here and they used "grilled" when they meant "baked." Fucking English language!
― I can't turn my heart into a nabkin dispender. (WilliamC), Tuesday, 4 March 2014 17:24 (ten years ago) link
WmC, grilling in UK & australia etc == cooking under heat ie broiling
a 'grill' for all intents and purposes is a broiler
even though I really hate even saying the word broil because it is super ridiculous
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 4 March 2014 17:33 (ten years ago) link
As darragh alluded to above, you guys use the word broil, a word nobody else has ever had need for. So, uh, a broiler? Which doesn't touch the surface of the bread.
― Andreass Twerckmeister (wins), Tuesday, 4 March 2014 17:33 (ten years ago) link
Xp!
― Andreass Twerckmeister (wins), Tuesday, 4 March 2014 17:34 (ten years ago) link
'grill' can still also refer to a charcoal or gas grill like a barbecue type situation, depending on the kind of food
but a "grilled cheese sandwich" would most commonly be broiled or made in a sandwich maker
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 4 March 2014 17:36 (ten years ago) link
fin
TY, VG -- another culture chasm bridged.
― I can't turn my heart into a nabkin dispender. (WilliamC), Tuesday, 4 March 2014 18:39 (ten years ago) link
welcome!
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 4 March 2014 19:01 (ten years ago) link
You guys are calling American grilled cheese "fried" when it's not - frying involves immersion in oil. If anything, they're sauteed.
I think.
― Je55e, Tuesday, 4 March 2014 22:36 (ten years ago) link
(just checked and apparently sauteeing is considered a kind of frying, but that seems wrong)
― Je55e, Tuesday, 4 March 2014 22:37 (ten years ago) link
we wd distinguish between "deep frying" (immersion) and "shallow frying" (like sauteeing basically) but if there's a pan and hot fat of some kind it's frying in our parlance
― I never did nothing to no curry (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 March 2014 22:40 (ten years ago) link
anyway i made grilled cheeses tonight and calling them fried cheeses wd feel wrong so
http://i.imgur.com/h7k6lou.jpg
― Andreass Twerckmeister (wins), Tuesday, 4 March 2014 22:41 (ten years ago) link
Have never had toast
Fuck that white people shit
― 龜, Tuesday, March 4, 2014 2:22 PM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milk_toast#Milk_toast_in_Asia
― Andreass Twerckmeister (wins), Tuesday, 4 March 2014 22:51 (ten years ago) link
Of course, bread and cheese under the broiler is called toasted cheese, just to make things more interesting.
― carl agatha, Tuesday, 4 March 2014 22:52 (ten years ago) link
here, if you fry bread it is called "fried bread" and is distinct from toast
― Andreass Twerckmeister (wins), Tuesday, 4 March 2014 22:56 (ten years ago) link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fried_bread
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 00:01 (ten years ago) link
Ugh white bread is so gross, just straight in my "not even food" category right away.
― Yth Esos Yn Breten; Kows Predennek! (Branwell Bell), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 09:05 (ten years ago) link
the answer is plugra butter on a fresh pullman loaf straight out of the oven.
― mary-kate and ashley's roachclip (get bent), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 09:17 (ten years ago) link
Cant get behind whiteshaming itt tbrr
― CSI BONO (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 09:29 (ten years ago) link
Why would you want to eat cold toast??
― inside out trousers (dog latin), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 09:56 (ten years ago) link
toast made with brown bread is superior.
― silverfish, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 14:48 (ten years ago) link
voted "french"
― frogbs, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 14:49 (ten years ago) link
The real question is whether we eat it with the butter-side up or butter-side down.
― set the trolls for the heart of the sun (how's life), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 14:51 (ten years ago) link
real butter, unsalted. Butter while hot obviously, the toast should absorb the butter, the butter should not just be on top. The bread should be toasted to whatever the brown equivalent of golden is.
― silverfish, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 14:53 (ten years ago) link
butter-side down
WAHT
― every time you sneer at "white boys with guitars" a Ramone dies (onimo), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 16:50 (ten years ago) link
P sure that was jokes
― Andreass Twerckmeister (wins), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 16:53 (ten years ago) link
yooks are not zooks, keep your butter-side up
― set the trolls for the heart of the sun (how's life), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 17:36 (ten years ago) link
I haven't had butter or white bread in my domicile in eons.
― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 17:38 (ten years ago) link
unsalted butter on bread sounds like kind of a bummer to me but I loooooooooooove salted melty butter
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 18:19 (ten years ago) link
I'm not a huge butter fan, but unsalted butter is awful. It just causes me to salt the food more than I already do, which quite a bit. Salt your butter people.
― Jeff, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 18:24 (ten years ago) link
Plugra butter is so fantastic, even unsalted is great on toast. If the bread is good, it should bring enough salt.
― I can't turn my heart into a nabkin dispender. (WilliamC), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 18:28 (ten years ago) link
option 2, non butter users i am so sad for u
― Corpsepaint Counterpaint (jjjusten), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 18:34 (ten years ago) link
don't typically use butter, and i try to have really fresh bread that doesn't need toasting. what is toasting if not an attempt to revive shit bread? if toasting is required, golden brown plz.
― blot it out (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 18:38 (ten years ago) link
Jeff OTM. Even plugra needs salt.
I was at a fancy steakhouse last week where bread came w/ unsalted butter topped with ground salt. That was the best.
― Je55e, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 18:38 (ten years ago) link
Hunter not OTM. Toast is its own thing, not a requirement.
― Je55e, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 18:40 (ten years ago) link
Yea fresh bread makes better toast but toast is better than bread
― CSI BONO (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 18:45 (ten years ago) link
I just had to make claws at Kenny the visiting dog to prevent him getting too close to my freshly buttered golden-toasted organic baguette.
Grilled cheese sandwiches - 'grilled' might be a US corruption of 'griddled' BTW - do not involve buttering the bread before laying the butter side down in a big pan. The butter is melted in the pan/on a diner-style grill or griddle while you prepare the two slices of bread which will form your sandwich. I prepare the 'cheese side' by spreading a thin layer of Dijon mustard on the bread to help the shredded cheddar adhere to the surface. When the butter in the pan is bubbling, place the slices in the pan (cheese side up, if you're a moron that needs it spelling out) for 60-90 seconds. Flip one slice over onto the other after the cheese has melted, then lift the whole thing out of the pan and onto a cutting board where you can slice it on the diagonal, and then... bon appetit.
Here endeth the lesson.
― baked beings on toast (suzy), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 18:51 (ten years ago) link
buttering the bread before laying the butter side down in a big pan
what kind of savagery is this?
― set the trolls for the heart of the sun (how's life), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 18:55 (ten years ago) link
Someone mentioned the possibility upthread and my entire being just went ¡NO PASARAN!
― baked beings on toast (suzy), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 18:57 (ten years ago) link
Buttering the bread rather than the pan was a huge revelation for me b/c it meant the butter is distributed more evenly on the bread (no pooling/dry spots) and you can control the amount of butter. What's the advantage of melting the butter in the pan method?
― Je55e, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 19:01 (ten years ago) link
I would say that the butter is distributed more evenly on the bread...
― set the trolls for the heart of the sun (how's life), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 19:02 (ten years ago) link
gtfo toast thread
― CSI BONO (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 19:04 (ten years ago) link
Buttering bread pre-griddle is very effective and yummy.
― blot it out (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 19:13 (ten years ago) link
Hunt3r finds his way back to the money.
― Je55e, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 19:17 (ten years ago) link
wtf this thread. I have never ever made a grilled cheese sandwich by melting the butter in the pan, only by spreading it directly onto my slices of bread -- everyone I know does it this way?!
also white bread, WHY??? you might as well just eat a sponge.
toast made with brown bread is superior. real butter, unsalted. Butter while hot obviously, the toast should absorb the butter, the butter should not just be on top. The bread should be toasted to whatever the brown equivalent of golden is.
― silverfish, Wednesday, March 5, 2014 2:53 PM (7 hours ago)
silverfish is my kind of toast man/woman.
― salsa shark, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 22:16 (ten years ago) link
i would totally eat a sponge if it were made out of white bread and then toasted
― CSI BONO (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 22:40 (ten years ago) link
i mean to address the rhetorical question
because, right, when you toast white bread the texture (particularly on the outside) becomes this wondrous sawdust crunch martian crust landscape varying from the merest golden blush to a deep and woody bark the biting into of which returns a deeply satisfying crunch which then yields (depending on thickness of slice but just for sheer ya-im-fucking-owning-this let's assume the dirtiest most basic white sliced pan you can get here because like here's the thing fuck snobbery over toast if you're snobby over toast you are missing the basic point of toast which is that it is a slice of 5p stuff that goes in a fucking toaster for a short length of time and emerges as a hans christian andersen cartridge of awesome) into a central core of lesser crunch- ranging to chewy but hey what's not to like there- and get this, right, YOU GET TO PUT BUTTER ON IT TOO
that's why white bread why. have another type of bread if you like, but don't white bread why me like this is a deniable thing because no
― CSI BONO (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 22:45 (ten years ago) link
i mean i even gave you ingrates a vote but there's just no stopping yis whinging
― CSI BONO (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 22:46 (ten years ago) link