Meet 'bronies' -- grown men who are fans of My Little Pony

i was just saying if we are bringing in zizek/lacan, then from their pov it wouldn't make sense to criticize something because of its distance from "reality" because evading the real is the whole point of language and culture and thought.

no way sex is primordial essential real but i agree that to some extent pornography infringes always

I mean, it's difficult to talk about bronies because once we've exhausted the 'explicit bestiality and overtones of pedophilia' angle, all that's left is the reality/unreality, 'cartoons vs real people' angle. And that means getting philosophical, poss bringing in the aforementioned Lacan and Zizek.

But that feels fundamentally silly, bcoz we're talking about a subculture that registers as totally absurd + is actually very small, the number of ppl on 4chan and reddit and imgur talking abt bronies vastly outnumbering bronies themselves.

Dude fucking his cows on a farm has a certain ... aura that bronies lack.

But none the less sexual attraction to cartoon characters as a whole is pretty widespread and there's some good (perhaps vital) conversations to be had about that

i want to read some vital conversations about cartoon pornography

As a starting point, Google for 'Disney porn'

Treeship have you had intercourse with a real naked lady or man or pony whatever you're into and did you have a "mediator"

Please do not actually answer that query, just think about it when answering in the future

I don't think he meant 'mediate' in that sense, and nor is the sense in which he did mean it any sort of neologism

Anyway, I'm pretty sure that the basic idea of fantasy always being involved in real attraction to real people is correct. Haven't we all found someone attractive because they reminded us of someone else? And unless we happen to meet our partners at a nudist colony then probably something about the way they dressed (covered) chimed with an idea beyond that actual individual (they were, I dunno, 'a policeman' or 'a shop assistant' or something else in quote marks as well as being an actual policeman or shop assistant).

The controversy is over whether any specific theory is otm about the details of how this works and the extent to which it is a thing

sorry not vital yet, or particularly about cartoon pornography

Yeah well, you've made me rethink my use of 'vital' there Mordy and I suppose looking back, what I meant was more something like: 'It's worth analysing these sexual phenomena such as attraction to My Little Pony because they seem to have something to do with like ... how we live now, like the internet being everywhere and people being alienated irl and yet connected online, and are going to be increasingly apparent as the 21st century progresses, man'

Difficulty is the aforementioned ridiculousness of Bronies and also that when it comes to psychoanalysis I'm typing from the comfort of my armchair.

Treeship have you had intercourse with a real naked lady or man or pony whatever you're into and did you have a "mediator"

Please do not actually answer that query, just think about it when answering in the future

― have a nice blood (mh), Wednesday, February 12, 2014 10:58 PM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I don't think he meant 'mediate' in that sense, and nor is the sense in which he did mean it any sort of neologism

― cardamon, Wednesday, February 12, 2014 11:00 PM (27 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

cardamon otm but to answer your question mh i have always made use of mediators, yes.

thread officially more pathetic than MLP porn

i vote for this to just be the new zizek thread.

Treeship and cardamon killing it ITT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAfJhJTiIAA

through the eye of the needle here people

but still think there's mileage in asking if things generally held up as 'sexy', and acceptably so, in our culture are not closer to 'cartoons' than they or us would tend to admit, and you know, maybe these guys who find 'cartoons' 'sexy' are more of a mirror than a door

― cardamon, Wednesday, February 12, 2014 6:38 PM (Yesterday)

anyway, "brony" says more abt the internet's collective desire to ostracize than anything else

who do you wish to exclude? what are their values and hats? how sad are they, how not like you and in what way?

everyone itt forgetting that the word/subculture "brony" was created and made A Thing like a week after they all discovered it and no one gave a shit about them, they were the ones who thought they needed a special name because they enjoyed a tv show intended for little girls

acting like they found their collective inner brony strength after being marched into the gulags jfc it's just the same endless nerd victimization shit with a different name

I haven't done a study, but I get the impression that, outside a few diehards, brony mostly exists as a joke. i mean, i'm sure there are some desperately sad adult male MLP superfans out there somewhere, i suspect they're vastly outnumbered by people goofing on the meme (which has become quite tired, imo).

I'm still back on TK Maxx, I mean waht

This might be wrong but I always assumed that it's because lots of European countries (Russia, Italy, etc) don't have the letter J and the rest (Spain, Sweden, France, etc) all pronounce it differently. The UK is their European hub.

that's a much better explanation than mine

The TJ Hughes explanation is the one given on Wikipedia and fwiw TJ Hughes still exists - there is one near me in Glasgow. Weird place.

I haven't done a study, but I get the impression that, outside a few diehards, brony mostly exists as a joke. i mean, i'm sure there are some desperately sad adult male MLP superfans out there somewhere, i suspect they're vastly outnumbered by people goofing on the meme (which has become quite tired, imo).

you can walk in to the hot topic at your nearest mall right now and buy a brony t-shirt, lanyard, or hoodie

I usually wait a few months and buy them cheap at TK Maxxx

We sell MLP pop(!) at my store and I have sold a few to teenage boys

excelsior, 龜

there's a section for mlp and brony stuff in the central london forbidden planet now :-(

http://www.brony.com/

vaguely tempted to buy and use this just to fuck with people
http://www.brony.com/product/my-little-pony-rainbow-dash-friendship-cannon-black-bi-fold-wallet/

How would you fuck with people using a wallet?

A buddy and I once went to Louisville for the Derby and stayed with his cousin. Cousin had a roommate who eyed us carefully while we sat down after our trip and took a load off. Cousin took a phone call and the three of us left were sitting there in the living room when the roommate hops up and says he'll be right back. Buddy and I just look at each other.

Roommate comes back wearing a blue Kentucky Wildcats hat and has this rictus grin on his face. We're watching tv and the roommate finally says, "I bet this is really pissing you off, right?" Because we were from a different state, he was using his blue cap to fuck with us, you see.

Kentucky fans or bronies, now there'd be a hard choice to make. Duke/Bronies easy enough since they're about the same thing.

just make a show of pulling that wallet out after business meetings to cover the check

Sounds like some New Yorker cartoon: "Sorry, was running late this morning and grabbed my daughter's wallet by mistake."

anyway, "brony" says more abt the internet's collective desire to ostracize than anything else

― CANONICAL artists, etc., etc. (contenderizer), Thursday, February 13, 2014 3:38 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

who do you wish to exclude? what are their values and hats? how sad are they, how not like you and in what way?

― CANONICAL artists, etc., etc. (contenderizer), Thursday, February 13, 2014 3:39 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

excellent posts imo

except that "brony" was coined by the fans themselves

And the outsider hat was proudly paraded around by those fans.

Lots of fans are just fans of course. No one's business but their own. But many of the more vocal bronies _want_ to be seen as people of different, rebel ideals just because they chose to band around this cartoon.

Doesn't help that many of these also mix in a little right wing libertarianism in their rants. I think you can forgive having a reaction to that.

http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/158/e/4/rainbow_dash_salutes_ron_paul_by_blamethe1st-d3ib0xt.png

Bronies are associated with libertarianism?

i'm all for ppl letting their freak flag fly but gleeful co-opting of something meant for girls is tired patriarchal bullshit

i need to think this thru but i feel like my contempt for bronies is indistinguishable from my feminism

there is so much about the flavor of bronyism I like to mock that reminds me of the "gutterpunk" kids in Harvard Square who would lounge around in nearly-identical ripped denim/leather and clothespin earrings and nearly-identical mowhawks in similar shades of blue, green and pink who would beg for change during the day and sneer at all of the conformists around them, completely oblivious to the fact that they were creating their own conformity

i don't think that says very much about yr feminism xp

it's not my experience that entertainment for females, esp for young girls, is regularly 'co-opted' by men - but rather stigmatized + discounted

ok then its fresh and new patriarchal bullshit

I pretty much agree with gr8080 with an important caveat:

i'm all for ppl letting their freak flag fly but gleeful co-opting of something meant for girls so that you can fuck it is tired patriarchal bullshit

the world needs fewer self-disappearing unproductive men. escape into a subculture built around a hasbro product doesn't read to me as difference or multiplicity of desire or subversion of established roles, it reads like plain cowardice.

i did read a defense of the show once (linked here maybe?) along the line that the show is an extended demonstration of/meditation on the value of friendship, which is always an undervalued and under-explained quality. and just as hard as romance, in a way, and just as important to life, especially to kids obviously

but discussion tends to devolve down to guys who what to fuck something so