Transport in London is shit

They're already not a group people feel warm towards

speak for yourself; the staff at Seven Sisters tube often have to deal with shitty commuters and have always done so, as far as I've witnessed, with patience and aplomb, and I don't think they deserve to lose their jobs. And I'm sympathetic to the blow-back from the strikes, but these people are striking not just to save their jobs, but to maintain the safety of the service they provide. They are being massively fucked over. It shouldn't be allowed. And you're right, it's likely that people are going to place their own inconvenience as being more important than the right and wrong in this case, but I don't really see what else they can do.

They could just stand aside and let Boris et al run rampant, see how that works out for London's vulnerable citizens

Open the doors on the wrong side
― imago, Thursday, 6 February 2014 17:46 (7 minutes ago) Permalink

ironically this has once led to a strike

They're already not a group people feel warm towards

... now if this had been referring to bus drivers I don't think there would be too many quibbles

yeah the tube provides an incredible service, wtf

'national' rail otoh

bus drivers actually had a difficult job though, unlike, a tube driver (aside from obviously having to take time to open the door on the correct side)

#blameboris all the way. Everyone should support ticket offices remaining open, there's no way their closure can be justified for so many reasons.

tell you what's not needed tho, bus drivers doing their "this bus terminates here" nonsense even more than usual

is it the driver who determines 'this bus terminates here'?

Bus drivers could simplify the difficult aspects of their jobs by not being combative and rude to passengers.

I cannot imagine Holborn station without a working ticket office. It would be chaos, with extra added gormless tourists.

I don't beef with bus drivers yeah coz it's pretty astoundingly difficult. The manoeuvres the 380 drivers must perform on the narrow backstreets of Charlton, especially if two meet each other in opposite directions, often have me in awe

i don't see why whoever decides about early terminations can't make an educated guess based on traffic and err on the side of caution when stating the destination in the first place. it's the surprise factor that's most rage-inducing

It's enraging to get on a bus using the last £1.50 on one's Oyster, only to have it terminate two miles before the indicator initially said it would.

> is it the driver who determines 'this bus terminates here'?

i think it's a shift thing, when they reach the end of their hours they can't carry passengers (but can drive back to the depot in the bus). i once had one driver who terminated the bus ONE STOP after i got on. why didn't he say anything?

Got to Vauxhall btw. Really shd have just gotten the train from CHX, this was a nice idea but slower than walking pace. If it was summer I would have walked home tbf

If buses terminate early u can request a transferable ticket, u do realise this right

Also that shift thing is str8 ludicrous. Finish the route you're on and request overtime pay, a child of 6 could work that out

If buses terminate early u can request a transferable ticket, u do realise this right

this works really well when you have a packed bus asking one driver for transferable tickets, everyone is in a rush and the next bus is packed as well

Bus drivers could simplify the difficult aspects of their jobs by not being combative and rude to passengers.
― baked beings on toast (suzy), Thursday, 6 February 2014 18:15 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

does the rude driver come first or the cunty passengers or both. most drivers whom i encounter are okay.

i think it's a shift thing, when they reach the end of their hours they can't carry passengers (but can drive back to the depot in the bus). i once had one driver who terminated the bus ONE STOP after i got on. why didn't he say anything?

so if they know their hours they must surely be able to make an educated guess as to whether they'll be able to complete their route and if not CHANGE THE INDICATOR so as not to mislead people

or what imago says

If buses terminate early u can request a transferable ticket, u do realise this right

I usually just walk on the bus and if the driver asks I say I paid on the last bus i'm not paying again, they don't usually say anything anyway

If buses terminate early u can request a transferable ticket, u do realise this right

no good if your bus is once every quarter of an hour and it's gale force wind outside (and you can't hop buses as presumably you don't have a travelcard hence the need for a transferable ticket)

xp Of course, but it's a massive PITA because inevitably there's either no bus for ages, or one just behind that's desperate to leave before anyone gets on from the first bus. Generally, I wind up walking home if I'm anywhere between Angel/Old Street/King's Cross/Oxford Circus.

I'm really polite to drivers but there's a culture of rudeness on the 7, so I try to avoid unless absolutely necessary.

Well yeah, point obviously taken lex/ken

O, we just went on a diversion and are out of traffic. Well done driver, maybe

i don't think i have to interact with bus drivers enough to even gauge how polite/rude they are.

the other day the driver opened the front entrance door for me to leave though so he got a++++ will ride again.

it's been a while since the last rude driver/cunt passenger stand off involving SWITCHING OFF THE ENGINE MANOEUVRE

The worst are the disabled cunts who make the driver *lower that fucking ramp* to let them on board. Utter planks

the early terminations are a pain but i quite like that some bus drivers are going rogue and letting passengers off anywhere. or at least i will like it until i myself am terminated by a motorbike winding through traffic.

free tube tomorrow is gonna be the best, i'm gonna ride it even though i've nowhere to go.

i must be biased as the driver is just rude whereas passengers were cunts

omg is it freetube tomorrow??????????? but i already have a travelcard :((((((((

follow follow follow
because ken chu is going to heathrow

Free tube? Evening Standard can still recycle those Commuter Misery headlines as 5000 passengers try to cram into carriages built for 50

it is freetube but it's only between 9.30am and 11.30am and then 6.30pm and 8.30pm.

free overground as well?

i can't find information about this on tfl? need to plan my zone 6 trip

Can we have some corresponding 'COMMUTER JOY' headlines for the freetube?

http://londonist.com/2014/02/tube-revenue-strikes-friday-and-next-week.php

Just reaching Lewisham now, btw :D

That wasn't so bad! 20 minute wait for the 59 but I did get the last seat even if at one point the driver had to tell ppl to get off the bus. Home now, all fine.

imago, do you mind though, please clarify that post you made up there about wheelchair users asking the driver to use the ramp? I don't feel like that is something I can let pass.

I think the early terminations are to regulate the service so you don't have all the buses bunched up together and then none for an hour coming in the other direction. It tends to be when a couple of buses in a row have been delayed / caught in traffic.

Branwell, I was parodying the attitude espoused in this thread of calling people out as cunts or rude or so forth, when really commuting is shit and we're all sincerely attempting to get from A to B and rly if you're gonna hate, hate the game, unless someone's really gone out of their way to be a jerk

Shdnt have to spell it out but there you go

Amazing sociological scenes on the 380 just now - bus just came from central Lewisham, 8 people on board, all black, all sitting at back. Lewisham station, 6 people get on, all white, all presumably commuted from CBD, all (except uh me) go to front, some even stand to avoid sitting towards rear. Then all but me + one other get off in leafy Blackheath :D

No, I was not able to catch a context of "jokes, bruv" from the surrounding posts. Yes, you did have to spell it out, and if you have to spell out a joke, it isn't one.

You really think I'd say that with a straight face? Really?

Yeah, actually I do. And it doesn't matter what "face" you said it with, because it's still a shitty ableist thing to say and how many times do we have to go through the idea that "OMG I WAS JOKING" does not excuse saying inexcusable things?

fucking hell, well how's about this for some ableism

you are such a retard

― dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Saturday, July 7, 2012 1:34 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

enjoy Interpol

OMG, are you really seriously pulling the "Nakh did it too, that makes me not so bad" fucking bullshit here?

no, I'm telling it to your face. you're being a retard, a ridiculous, awful retard, and I'm frankly offended. I've been frankly offended by how you've addressed me on here for a while, and your domineering, bullying posting-style. accusing me of straight-faced bigotry when I'm making an obviously facetious point about the complaints-culture of entitlement commuters in London seem to fall back on in times of strife, allied to my facetious tone right throughout this thread (you could have read it?) plus the fact I'm not a fucking moron should have given you the hint, but no, you had to pile in with your absolute fucking bullshit again. fuck off and leave me alone.

Okay no.

Wow.

imago's post had nothing to do w "joeks bruv" bants culture though? it was pretty straight pisstaking?

aaaanyway

tell you what's not needed tho, bus drivers doing their "this bus terminates here" nonsense even more than usual

had an interesting morning of that, feeling smug on my half-full 55, which i DILIGENTLY CHECKED said oxford circus on the front. it took about, oh, 1 1/2 hrs to get to old street. then bang, everyone chucked out at clerkenwell. so i walked, along with most of the rest of my bus.

louis, you're an often unfunny turd who flips from embarassing dork to vile spite-ridden sprite in a trice, can you please fucking cut it out or grow up or get some help or something?

i mean you contribute a lot to this board but i'll gladly do without all of it to not have you screaming "you are a retard!" at bb because you're a spoilt brat who thinks it will impress the zing crew you should have long grown out of.