GIRLS talk (the Lena Dunham thread)

nobody in history was ever mature

maturity is just this thing older people made up to pretend they have their shit together so their kids will listen to them

hahaha otm

Just remembered I meant to comment on this:

Some odd moments where continuity was sacrificed for throw-away gags in this. Like Shoshanna's rocking chair taking up most of the room on the back seat, I was wondering where Jessa was going to sit coming back. Lo and behold, the rocking chair was nowhere to be seen on the return journey. Unless I missed something?

The scene before they pull up at the motel has Hannah in the back seat, and the mystical powers of being in the back seat make her automatically act more infantilised than when she was sitting in the front. She then gets her head stuck between the bars of the seat. The next time we see her is in the diner, sans chair. They obviously have to dismantle it to get her free, which is why we don't see it again.

Is it OK to identify with Adam in this show? In that you don't really want to hang out with any of them, but you end up drawn into their circle and having a fun time despite yourself? I really didn't care for S2 much at all, except maybe for the episodes at Jessa's, and I don't like the people - whiny, self-obsessed, First World Problems trustafarians to a one - but I'm glad I stuck with it because S3 has been hilarious. The funniest bit for me was probably Marnie still going through with the song at the party despite it being clearly flagged to her that it was an atrocious idea by Hannah herself. Between this and the video she reminds me of a friend of the ex, who I used to characterise as "Don't look at me, why is everybody looking at me (LOOK AT ME PLEASE)".

it feels too perfectly above actual language

hmmm, this used to be called "comedy," but it's been so acarce in the culture the last 20 years I understand if it's unfamiliar.

*scarce, dammit

i would prefer not to identify with adam, personally

i find the show is increasingly shown from his perspective, like when he was dreading hannah's friends coming over and then they came over and all the conversations were so awful

also ep3 kind of like making the point that he's the only one with a conscience

eh not really. Ray and his sister and pretty much everyone else were incredulous at Hannah's callousness.

yeah the more the show appears to make him "the voice of reason" the more uncomfortable it makes me

er I meant Adam's sister

max u just don't like him cause he doesn't like gawker

ray is such an ilxor-dude i think, he should be the voice of reason(able opinions about sitcoms)

lol

hes kind of a psycho is all. plus i dont like the idea of a show called "girls" thats (supposed to be?) a semi-feminist real-life thing where the creepy aggressive boyfriend is the reasonable guy

ya i agree. also why do they have a spare room in their apt?

it's a two bedroom

So every show created and written by women has to be a feminist thing--such a fucking lame narrow view of the world

Maybe she's trying to write an interesting show and not make it be the feminist answer to anything

maybe you were trying to write an interesting post and not make it the troll answer to anything

good one, asshat

more femiNAZI garbage from ilxor.com. when will you cover mens rights?

I just watched the first 4 eps and now I feel bad that Adam is really the only character that doesn't annoy the hell out of me in some way.

But not really. They're all just so far gone and obnoxious to varying degrees but I find him (and Ray) the least obnoxious and easiest to identify with. That said, I can't stop watching.

u watching the new seaz or just staring the series now?

No, I've seen whole thing up until now I just hadn't watched any of this season until today.

beer in the office fridge at gq

kevin's a regular firecracker

did anyone watch this? i didn't like the scenes with marnie and ray. their interactions seem to have been better written in the past.

{spoiler alert}

What happened to Adam's sister?!

How do you end the previous episode on a cliffhanger of her getting kicked out and Adam racing out to look for her in a panic, and the follow-up episode makes no mention of her and everything is hunky-dory in the place?

This is truly the surrealist-absurdist/thumbing-nose-at-notions-of-continuity "Louie Season 3" of Girls.

I liked this episode! The GQ crew are all good characters

shoshona's sex scene was lol

This season started off quite poorly, but this episode was great.

I kind of have a love/hate thing for Shosh.

Brief but innaresting article abt the typeface in the titles

http://www.printmag.com/imprint/type-casting-the-deco-inspired-typography-of-lena-dunhams-girls/

I always just assumed it was Neutraface

Oh! Here is more insight about why it is not Neutraface:

http://pureefantastico.wordpress.com/2012/06/29/girls-and-neutraface/

http://pureefantastico.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/jne_girlsneutracomparison.png

idgi, why was it necessary to tweak it that subtly?

the Shoshi Games

i'm in love

I really hate this show now, take back whatever I said on this thread

go on?

I don't know, maybe it's very subjective. I work with people just a little younger than this age now and watching the show kinda makes me feel creepy like I'm eavesdropping on a part in a dorm or something. I'm sure I have old-guy stuff I should rather be doing. But the recent episodes I've seen have just been airless and bad. I feel life passing me by as I watch it.

a party

I also no longer think Lena Dunham is smart or fun. Well, I definitely don't think she's fun and if she's smart, she's not being generous with that gift at present.

i would be happy to outsource some of the blame for what this show is like now to a kind of Apatowization, & a misread of its original value, but yeah it is frustrating to see it vaguely resemble & then operate totally differently from the impulses that made it so smart. that there's a season-three rearrangement of existing characters into a new couple just seems like the basest most clasically moorless move.

last episode i thought the sympathetic music when hannah had the "oh no i might stop writing" realization was jarring. like we were being asked to genuinely relate to that sort of anxiety, instead of looking askance at it.

i kinda stopped taking this show seriously until i get to the next ep that dunham wrote solo. is that happening?

Whoa, I really liked tonight's episode. I mean, it wasn't subtle at all in how it basically addressed the complaints people have about every character (interestingly, Jessa got the least of the crossfire) but I think the show's been building up to something like this for awhile now and it's something the show needs.

Also, is Danny Strong gay???

I kind of lost my steam on this show after the first few this season. I have also had the thoughts stated above that (1) the show might be drifting as it becomes "apatowized" or (2) all those times where I wasn't sure exactly how smart and self-aware dunham was really being might be resolved in favor of less smart and less self-aware

I don't know if tonight's episode indicated self-awareness or just an ability to read comment sections.