Katrina's POLITICAL aftermath (keep the political discussions HERE)

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From one of the katrinacane journals:

OK everyone... we must think outside the box to get help into our city! Here's what I propose we do to get a government response faster:

1. Announce they are giving late term abortions down at the Convention Center
2. Spread the rumor that they're thinking about disconnecting the feeding tube of a (white) woman in a coma at one of the hospitals still standing.
3. Ask a calm, mourning, middle aged woman to camp out for peace along Canal Street.

― Ian Riese-Moraine: Let this bastard out, and you'll get whiplash! (Eastern Mantr, Friday, 2 September 2005 22:08 (twenty years ago)

CNN calls the Bullshit (CNN!)

― stet (stet), Friday, 2 September 2005 22:15 (twenty years ago)

I think that's been linked to already.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 2 September 2005 22:25 (twenty years ago)

http://acepilots.com/mt/2005/09/01/bloggers-on-hurricane-katrina/

― 3, Friday, 2 September 2005 22:45 (twenty years ago)

John Edwards writes in TPM Cafe today.

In this moment, we have to remember they are part of us, Americans who love their country and are part of our national community. In this moment, it is hard because our hair is clean and our clothes are washed and our eyes are not glazed with hopelessness. But these are our brothers and sisters, and we have to remember this not just for them, but for us. We must finally recognize that when any of us suffer, we are all weaker; it affects us all...

― kingfish 'doublescoop' moose tracks (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 2 September 2005 22:48 (twenty years ago)

one of the holed-up-in-a-bar-with-guns goths finally posts, and pretty much just tells the haters to fuck off:

Whether you think I'm a stupid bitch for staying or not, the fact remains that because of us staying dozens of people got fed for free on Monday and early Tuesday as we cooked up the food in our kitchen and served it without asking for money. People were able to come and get water, food, drinks and good spirits because we stayed. And when we did decide to leave, we took people with us that otherwise had no means of getting out of the city, even though they were piled on top of each other in the van and we had to drill holes in abandoned cars' gas tanks to get enough fuel to leave the city. We were on the road for the past two days, dropping people off where they needed to go, staying with friends and family, or catching flights home...

― kingfish 'doublescoop' moose tracks (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 2 September 2005 22:57 (twenty years ago)

Some more on what i was talking about upthread re: Canadian aid

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 2 September 2005 23:01 (twenty years ago)

x-post Yeah, just read that as well. Never thought they were as crazed as Interdictor or anything but I was taken by the imagery, it was like Poppy Z. Brite crossed with Near Dark.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 2 September 2005 23:01 (twenty years ago)

from Wired: They Knew What To Expect

― kingfish 'doublescoop' moose tracks (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 2 September 2005 23:01 (twenty years ago)

Oh, come on. The people of New Orleans brought this on themselves. You know what it's like there. Where's Jerry Fallwell? Where the FUCK is Jerry Fallwell? It's times like this when we need his wise words.

no jerry falwell, but the house-organ of jesus freak don wildmon steps to the plate and knocks it outta the park.

the religious right: the gift that keeps on giving ...

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 2 September 2005 23:09 (twenty years ago)

“New Orleans now is abortion free. New Orleans now is Mardi Gras free. New Orleans now is free of Southern Decadence and the sodomites, the witchcraft workers, false religion -- it's free of all of those things now," Shanks says. "God simply, I believe, in His mercy purged all of that stuff out of there -- and now we're going to start over again."

you wouldn't know it from reading the above, but don wildmon is from tupelo, MS.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 2 September 2005 23:10 (twenty years ago)

That radio interview with Mayor Nagin is the most bullshit-free talk I've heard from an American politician in as long as I can remember.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 2 September 2005 23:23 (twenty years ago)

dunno if this has been stated elsewhere, but guess who got the navy contract to clean up three mississippi bases damaged by the hurricane?

yeah, they ARE this shameless.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 2 September 2005 23:32 (twenty years ago)

I was just about to post that same thing Eisbar. In fact I almost made a joke along those lines earlier. Not much of a surprise is it?

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 2 September 2005 23:34 (twenty years ago)

Apparently Kanye West just trashed Bush by saying he hates black people on that NBC concert. Good job.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 2 September 2005 23:51 (twenty years ago)

(I'm not being sarcastic there BTW. I am VERY glad he said that.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 2 September 2005 23:52 (twenty years ago)

dood I just caught the end of that! It was Kanye and Mike Meyers and the only thing I heard was Kanye saying "George Bush does not care about black people" very matter of factly. then they cut to Aaron Neville singing amazing grace and I gotta say I honestly teared up. fucking crazy.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Saturday, 3 September 2005 00:00 (twenty years ago)

And you know, I am listening to this Dead Milkmen song right now and it all comes together:

They're just right wing pigeons from outer space
Sent here to destroy the human race
They don't give a damn about you or me
They just buy guns and watch TV

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 3 September 2005 00:07 (twenty years ago)

just heard the jerk editor of "National Review" magazine on the BBC.

What an ignorant right wing plank !

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Saturday, 3 September 2005 00:26 (twenty years ago)

xpost to Ned re Sullivan: I was referring to that as cover your ass rightwing commonsense, viz. piling on Bush just to seem in line humanistically.

lou dobbs began the race baiting on his show stating that while black caucus criticized Bush and the Feds, they haven't criticized the local black politicians AS IF THEY WERE ON EQUAL FOOTING IN TERMS OF AID AND ABILITY TO REPAIR THE SITUATION.

the worst thing in my mind about today's news is that people really think that it's all better now that the President visited for half a day.

― blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Saturday, 3 September 2005 00:42 (twenty years ago)

Has anybody been watching Fox? Apparently, Shepard Smith has been ripping into O'Reilly and Hannity for the past two hours...

― carson dial (carson dial), Saturday, 3 September 2005 00:42 (twenty years ago)

I've actually been watching quite a bit of Smith on Fox up here at work (Wolf Blitzer's Dr. Strangelove set gets on my nerves), and I've been impressed. Being there in the middle of one of the worst situations ever in this country seems to have made his heart grow by an inch or two.

'Course, soon as he gets back to New York, network brass will whup the fuck out of that shit and put him back to where he was.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Saturday, 3 September 2005 00:47 (twenty years ago)

just heard the jerk editor of "National Review" magazine on the BBC.

What an ignorant right wing plank !

Ah, you noticed.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 3 September 2005 00:54 (twenty years ago)

was referring to that as cover your ass rightwing commonsense

Clarity! And thank you.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 3 September 2005 00:56 (twenty years ago)

And yeah, more info on Smith (and Rivera?) laying the smackdown plz.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 3 September 2005 00:57 (twenty years ago)

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2005/09/02.html#a4762

I'll have the video in a little while.

During the concert for Hurricane Relief, Kanye West and Mike Meyers were celebrity narrators during the segment, West said: (rush transcript)

...I hate the way they are portrayed in the media. Black families it says they are looting, white families it says the are looking for food....They've given them permission to go down there and shoot us"

"George Bush doesn't care about black people."

Mike Meyers was floored...

― kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Saturday, 3 September 2005 01:06 (twenty years ago)

Some stuff here Ned (search for 'Smith'), but can't find transcripts/clips yet.

― carson dial (carson dial), Saturday, 3 September 2005 01:10 (twenty years ago)

and watching Jim Lehrer on PBS right now, showing El Doofus yakking away this afternoon, i just thought of something that hasn't occured to me in 4 years:

What's Jon Stewart going to say about this? the next Daily Show airdate is Tuesday, according to Comedy Central.

― kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Saturday, 3 September 2005 01:12 (twenty years ago)

[shot of Bush saying something like "we didn't know the levee would break"]
[shot of John Stewart all bug-eyed and slack-jawed.]

[Repeat]

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Saturday, 3 September 2005 01:17 (twenty years ago)

The president said he is "satisfied" with the federal government's response to the Katrina disaster, although there is not "enough security in New Orleans, yet." (Full story) (Watch Bush news briefing -- 2:32)
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/02/katrina.impact/index.html

Satisfied??? Good grief.

― lyra (lyra), Saturday, 3 September 2005 01:21 (twenty years ago)

[shot of Bush saying something like "we didn't know the levee would break"]
[shot of John Stewart all bug-eyed and slack-jawed.]

[Repeat]

yeah, that's the thing. it's like they could easily do a two-hour show every night for a week with nothing but video from the last 3 days.

― kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Saturday, 3 September 2005 01:26 (twenty years ago)

I hope it's really like that.. kinda like a Steve Reich approach to the entire episode of the Daily Show... going in and out of phase, audience laughter too.

― donut Get Behind Me Carbon Dioxide (donut), Saturday, 3 September 2005 01:30 (twenty years ago)

Can we also say that Led Zeppelin is going to RAKE IN THE DOUGH with sampling clearances for a certain song when the gazillion hip hop albums currently in production decide to write their "ode" to W? (I'm hoping Page, Plant, Jones, and the John Bonham and Memphis Minnie estates use that money for a good cause)

― donut Get Behind Me Carbon Dioxide (donut), Saturday, 3 September 2005 01:33 (twenty years ago)

That Kanye clip is great!

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Saturday, 3 September 2005 01:34 (twenty years ago)

Can we also say that Led Zeppelin is going to RAKE IN THE DOUGH with sampling clearances for a certain song when the gazillion hip hop albums currently in production decide to write their "ode" to W?

The "Rhymin' and Stealin" remakes have so much potential

― disco violence (disco violence), Saturday, 3 September 2005 01:40 (twenty years ago)

it's fascinating to see the mainstream white media start to take it personally about the race and class issues now that the black caucus has emerged on these matters. add aaron brown to the lou dobbs list of race baiters. it was convenient, sympathetic and provocative to see the old guard hacks bring up issues of gender, class and race, but it appears that everyone's back in their old roles now.

this has potential to become a galvanizing force in progressive/left politics, completely separate from the Dem Party, which remains woefully out of step with its actual base, especially in the South, where the Dem Party is blacker and more liberal than in the DLC North. This and the Cindy Sheehan rally in Washington could be a political powderkeg.

could kanye be arrested as a clear and present danger?

― blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Saturday, 3 September 2005 01:42 (twenty years ago)

they're talking about race & poverty on the roundtable segment on Jim Lehrer's show right now.

― kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Saturday, 3 September 2005 01:44 (twenty years ago)

I just watched that whole Kanye clip. holy fucking shit, he is the greatest.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Saturday, 3 September 2005 02:03 (twenty years ago)

Is his music any good? Would I like it? That clip rules!

― Fushigina Blobby: Blobania no Kiki (ex machina), Saturday, 3 September 2005 02:14 (twenty years ago)

i don't care. I'm buying the album anyway.

― kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Saturday, 3 September 2005 02:14 (twenty years ago)

in the midst of all of this, white pundits are really struggling with the notion that their sense of middle-class fairness doesn't actually exist, nor does any concept of actual equality. these people, for all they can tell, are free only to die.

add tucker carlson to the white paranoid list.

― blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Saturday, 3 September 2005 02:15 (twenty years ago)

The Navy has hired Houston-based Halliburton Co. to restore electric power, repair roofs and remove debris at three naval facilities in Mississippi damaged by Hurricane Katrina.

Halliburton subsidiary KBR will also perform damage assessments at other naval installations in New Orleans as soon as it is safe to do so.

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/business/3335685

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Saturday, 3 September 2005 02:16 (twenty years ago)

Sharpton's giving Tucker Carlson a tongue-lashing on MSNBC about the race thing right now. this is not gonna go away, and rightly so.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Saturday, 3 September 2005 02:30 (twenty years ago)

just applauded Kanye. fuck. full-on ranting.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Saturday, 3 September 2005 02:31 (twenty years ago)

Just watched a lengthy confession of a woman to a bishop on WAFB. She was describing hell, murder, rape, starvation, countless corpses being eaten by alligators and rats...

This is monstrous.

DK has a diary on it that insists that the Red Cross is being kept out of New Orleans deliberately, in effect, to starve out the survivors. If this turns out to be true.... i just don't know.

― badgerminor (badgerminor), Saturday, 3 September 2005 02:40 (twenty years ago)

they just cut it from the west coast broadcast. they fade to a graphic right after mike gets down speaking. fuckers.

― kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Saturday, 3 September 2005 02:43 (twenty years ago)

http://www.catandgirl.com/archive/cgflooding.gif

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Agh, they cut it? Bastards! Fucking pricks!

― Ian Riese-Moraine: Let this bastard out, and you'll get whiplash! (Eastern Mantr, Saturday, 3 September 2005 02:44 (twenty years ago)

Cutting it = old media companies trying to ignore the power of nu interweb media distribution (or they are just stupid old technophobes who have never heard of google)

― lyra (lyra), Saturday, 3 September 2005 02:48 (twenty years ago)

Hurricane Katrina: Why is the Red Cross not in New Orleans?

― badgerminor (badgerminor), Saturday, 3 September 2005 02:49 (twenty years ago)

Beat me to it, badger.

― Ian Riese-Moraine: Let this bastard out, and you'll get whiplash! (Eastern Mantr, Saturday, 3 September 2005 02:51 (twenty years ago)

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