University Challenge (also featuring Only Connect and other BBC quiz shows)

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joe, Monday, 2 March 2009 18:41 (fifteen years ago) link

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Captain Save-Ahlo (The stickman from the hilarious xkcd comics), Monday, 2 March 2009 19:07 (fifteen years ago) link

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Captain Save-Ahlo (The stickman from the hilarious xkcd comics), Monday, 2 March 2009 19:08 (fifteen years ago) link

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James Mitchell, Monday, 2 March 2009 22:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Ryan Shorthouse, a Conservative policy advisor, Deputy Editor of CrossBow Magazine and qualified Tennis Coach

James Mitchell, Monday, 2 March 2009 22:33 (fifteen years ago) link

Fuck the spineless BBC jobsworths.

No one is at all bothered about it except mediocre bureaucrats trying to keep their own worthless "jobs."

And of course, the Meejah, who can spot a Good Story at a hundred paces.

My God, how we hate and envy intelligent, talented people in this country.

the guy was ineligible you fucking moron.

Judd Nelson (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, 3 March 2009 09:16 (fifteen years ago) link

rulez is rulez yo

and, apart from a crystal fruit bowl or whatever, what does anyone really lose or gain from this?

speaking as a mwahahahaha (Upt0eleven), Tuesday, 3 March 2009 09:18 (fifteen years ago) link

Cheaters are losers. They cheated and now they've lost.

M*** N****, PA, United States

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speaking as a mwahahahaha (Upt0eleven), Tuesday, 3 March 2009 09:20 (fifteen years ago) link

do they not check these things, um, before people are let on the programme?

lex pretend, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 09:33 (fifteen years ago) link

They cheated, they got found out, they had their title taken away. The BBC acted quickly and rightly. I really can't see any other way of reading this, unless you are determined to have another crack at the BBC. Once it was found out that he had cheated what else were they supposed to do?

Ned Trifle II, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 09:39 (fifteen years ago) link

When I auditioned for the show, in '97 I think, they explained the rules very clearly at the audition. Which they need to do: the auditions are held in the summer term, but recording is in the autumn, so most final year students, although still students when the team applies, will be ineligible for the competition. From the news story, it seems that Kay *thought* he was still going to be a student in the autumn when he auditioned; but, regardless of that, I can't believe that noone on the team realised that they were breaking the rules at the recording.

Forest Pines Mk2, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 09:49 (fifteen years ago) link

It's a quiz show.

It's light entertainment.

It's not the Olympics (even though we all know about the tedious hypocrisy going on there).

Yet again, no one would have known or been bothered by it had not some hopeless loser of a whinger gone and talked to the Meejah.

Why don't we just get rid of all programmes on the BBC and have 24-hour Songs Of Praise with Aled Jones and Myleene Klass if we want "purity"?

Cheatin' bastards, fuck 'em

Queueing For Latchstrings (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 March 2009 10:00 (fifteen years ago) link

Doesn't matter what kind of show it is. How can you say it's fine for people to break the rules and still walk away with the winnings not very attractive trophy?

Ned Trifle II, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 10:02 (fifteen years ago) link

it is pretty retarded to break the show over the long vac, but them's the rules. silly corpus not to have got in a replacement coz they'd probably have won anyway.

Judd Nelson (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, 3 March 2009 10:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Like the cards aren't stacked enough in favour of Oxbridge teams without allowing them to field cunts who aren't even students!

Queueing For Latchstrings (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 March 2009 10:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Like the cards aren't stacked enough in favour of Oxbridge teams

um how exactly? they have a vastly smaller pool of potential team members to draw on. it probably is unfair but otoh they let in loads of polys so...

Judd Nelson (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, 3 March 2009 10:06 (fifteen years ago) link

Here, see this page, it's white

Queueing For Latchstrings (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 March 2009 10:06 (fifteen years ago) link

so what marcello is saying (if i'm following correctly), if the meejah didn't exist, would anyone have raised the complaint directly to the Beeb ?

Ant Attack.. (Ste), Tuesday, 3 March 2009 10:07 (fifteen years ago) link

I blame the internet.

Ned Trifle II, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 10:08 (fifteen years ago) link

but they weren't allowed to field non-students

xps

lex pretend, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 10:09 (fifteen years ago) link

I know, but Marcello seems to think they should be

Queueing For Latchstrings (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 March 2009 10:09 (fifteen years ago) link

Marcello, do us a favour and turn the Carlinbot off next time you go on holiday for two weeks.

Roque Santa Gold (Matt DC), Tuesday, 3 March 2009 10:14 (fifteen years ago) link

It's unfortunate that the taping schedule is what it is, since it really does seem to unfairly preclude third-years from participating. It would be more fair to allow people to be on the programme who are students when they begin the filming and to leave it at that. Note that MCR didn't want the poisoned chalice of winning through a DQ.

FWIW in many areas people retain student status for six months post-graduation.

Choom Gang Gang Dance (suzy), Tuesday, 3 March 2009 10:16 (fifteen years ago) link

I gather in years past dozens of past "students" were no longer students by the end of the process - so why disqualify Corpus Christi?

Because of Meejah pressure, of course.

In the war Thompson's BBC would have been on the side of the Nazis for fear of being bullied by the Daily Mail.

I gather in years past dozens of past "students" were no longer students by the end of the process

Was this guy a student when he actually took part in his first show tho?

Queueing For Latchstrings (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 March 2009 10:37 (fifteen years ago) link

yes

Judd Nelson (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, 3 March 2009 10:38 (fifteen years ago) link

just

Judd Nelson (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, 3 March 2009 10:38 (fifteen years ago) link

imho they shouldn't allow open university students or indeed any postgrad/mature students at all

Judd Nelson (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, 3 March 2009 10:39 (fifteen years ago) link

I gather in years past dozens of past "students" were no longer students by the end of the process - so why disqualify Corpus Christi?

Because two wrongs don't, etc...

Ned Trifle II, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 11:04 (fifteen years ago) link

I guess rules is rules either way, but I've heard two different versions of how definite this guy's postgrad acceptance was. Like, get accepted for PhD but unexpectedly have funding withdrawn at short notice right before filming: fairly reasonable in that short period of running round like a headless chicken worrying about yr doctorate not to think things like "oh, now I have to withdraw from the next round of UC"; finalist who is prospective PhD candidate with no word on acceptance: should probably have thought about this earlier.

But, whatever.

a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 11:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Basically the BBC could have let this stand but they are terrified of media criticism so it was never going to be.

In addition, of course, disqualification is a Better Story.

Latter is certainly true, I think you are overstating the former tho

Queueing For Latchstrings (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 March 2009 11:25 (fifteen years ago) link

im surprised that

1) the 'story' didn't emerge sooner
2) they keep the final result secret for three-odd months. in this day and age.

Judd Nelson (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, 3 March 2009 11:27 (fifteen years ago) link

Yes. I think the same about The Apprentice.

Alba, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 11:28 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't think I am (Tom xp). As with Ross and Brand and Carol Thatcher, the BBC repeatedly fail to stand by their broadcasters or stand up to the meejah bullies.

Get rid of spineless jellyfish Thompson and install a DG with some guts.

Ross, Brand, Carol Thatcher... yeah, great, let's man the barricades

Queueing For Latchstrings (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 March 2009 11:33 (fifteen years ago) link

just install DG

Judd Nelson (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, 3 March 2009 11:36 (fifteen years ago) link

Yet they keep Jeremy "lorry drivers are all rapists" Clarkson on. Conspiracy? I think so.

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Tuesday, 3 March 2009 11:41 (fifteen years ago) link

Well even Clarkson was made to apologise when he had no need to apologise for anything.

Is there any evidence that the BBC bears any responsibility at all for disqualifying Corpus Christi? It's not as if the BBC makes the show.

Forest Pines Mk2, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 11:43 (fifteen years ago) link

sadly Jo "dogshit thru BNP letterboxes" Brand is still allowed to do her awful dance routines for charity. did we lose a war??

tuomasters at work (blueski), Tuesday, 3 March 2009 11:44 (fifteen years ago) link

It depends.

What's on the other side?

Mark G, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 11:48 (fifteen years ago) link

im surprised that

1) the 'story' didn't emerge sooner
2) they keep the final result secret for three-odd months. in this day and age.

― Judd Nelson (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, 3 March 2009 11:27 (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

1) makes sense to wait until the winner is revealed and cause a bigger fuss. nothing wrong with that imo.
2) as with the apprentice, i don't think papers even make an effort to find out - they'd expect a viewer backlash against spoiling a popular series. (a while back the sun got offered a leaked copy of the new harry potter and shopped the guy to the police.)

joe, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 11:49 (fifteen years ago) link

"Papers" ha. I assume by "day and age" Enrique was talking about web leaks.

Alba, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 11:52 (fifteen years ago) link

lol sorry i'm old media

joe, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 11:53 (fifteen years ago) link

yea, all those audience members keeping shtum

Judd Nelson (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, 3 March 2009 11:53 (fifteen years ago) link


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