A thread for JUSTIFIED, a TV show on FX starring Timothy Olyphant

just redid the whole first season in a week, really holds up better than i remembered

i just re watched season 1 as well. I forgot how menacing wynn was in his season 1 episode. Seems like the've played him for laughs since season 3.

i like where they took wynn; originally he was top dog psycho but they eventually started using him as the yardstick for what REAL psychos are like

Michael Rapaport, that is the worst excuse for a southern accent I've heard in a long time. Thaat shyit's owwful, Daryl Crowe.

agreed. and though last ep acting was fairly strong, I am not enamored of the continuing homicidal adventures of dewey crowe, small business owner

Wow, this was suddenly 10x better than the first few episodes of the season. It had me on edge enough that I was sure that janitor mopping in the background at the marshals' office was about to pull out a gun and kill Art.

Yeah, agreed; they picked up the pace considerably. Still. Rapaport's accent. It's so bad i start to wonder if there are a group of weirdo panhandle types that actually talk like that. No one else in his family talks like that!

I'm on episode five of season three in a full rewatch; enjoying it a lot.

Season 3 is underrated. But I have stated that often enough.

And yeah it stepped WAY the fuck up tonight. Enough reversals for an entire season, goddamn. Wasn't crazy about the Danny Strong/Ava thing, though. One knife-twist too many.

yeah, that ava in prison subplot is kinda ????
also, why take all the time to build up the gator guy as a potential bad ass and then just throw him away? tho' honestly that unpredictability is part of why i like the show. who would've imagined dewey would've lasted this long

Yeah the janitor. I am very worried about Art now.

You know what this show needs? More characters.

After they just offed a half-dozen or so?

So obv Boyd's upset about Ava, and Dewey's got some heavy-breathing relatives from Florida that Raylan's not particularly fond of either, and occasionally a comedian playing a hitman shows up from Detroit to glare at somebody, but am I missing some heavy stakes at the moment beyond this?

raylan is outing himself to art for allowing the big dude from last season to get shot to death in an airport next episode, so there's some heavy stakes.

I wished no-one had mentioned how bad Rappaport's southern accent is, I wouldn't have noticed otherwise. Even as an English person, now I can discern how fucking terrible it is.

i honestly forgot that raylan had let that happened, and didn't pick up whether art really cared.

honestly, this show is getting too soap opera in structure for me, a few lead characters in wandering familiar narratives. really missing the focus on the marshall's office and the short-story-like form their interactions with baddies used to take.

sorry for the abuse of the word "honestly"

i lean the opposite direction; really enjoy the wandering long-form narrative.
just finished third season, forgot how abruptly it ends!

Art specifically traveled to Detroit to investigate, so yeah, he cared.

But I do agree that they've had trouble clarifying the stakes this season. Now that they've cleared the deck a bit, not to mention neutralizing the almost series-long Big Bad, they should be freed up to hum right along.

also the other high stakes thing is ava going to federal prison! it's not just raylan's show; i daresay we're certainly meant to care somewhat equally for boyd at this point.

The Danny strong bit was so corny and underdeveloped I don't want to give them any credit for it.

Throwing in this knockoff orange is the new black scene for some shit "she was one day from retirement!" drama, ugh

I'm all for Boyd going ham, though

I heart Olyphant but Goggins straight-up owns this show now. I love that he doesn't have an Emmy, but he does have an Oscar.

prison story is some bullshit i just hope it's lazy writing in service of something awesome, which in fairness this show has kind of earned.

I'm loving Ellis from Mud as Kendall Crowe.

This season is missing something, though, isn't it? It's just so over-stuffed, it's hard to work out what that missing thing is. My theory is that Raylan has gotten too broody.

Last two eps have been tons better though.

I knew I'd seen that kid somewhere!

Only he wasn't Ellis, he was the pal, "Neckbone."

well you said you wanted higher stakes
whole goddamn episode was uncomfortable to watch, dunno about the ava is the new black C-plot (D-plot? how many threads are they running simultaneously?) but otherwise they kicked this up a few notches to overflowing boil
one of the best cold opens in this series too

"overflowing boil" seems more than a bit much - would like to think raylan's grin would dissipate at that point - but i was glad to spend some time with the marshalls and see some plot strands finally come together

This season is such a turd.

disagree but it's the first season where i feel like they're just pushing too much shit together at the same time.

my dr. told me that's the definition of a turd

i stand corrected

I have a terrible admission to make

*i have stopped watching Justified*

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Maybe I am in denial but I will stick with Justified till the death, in the forlorn hope that this season will pull itself out of the mire, I suppose it is starting to hum a bit. They were too quick to kill off two of the most promising new characters imo. Watching ep 08 tonight and wished I hadn't read this thread :(

It's by no means bad by the standards of otyher shows, but the last couple eps have been uncharacteristically weak.

i wish they'd sideline the ada plot and raylan's love life. the whole "i have a daughter in florida" red herring feels extra pointless right now.

i'm glad avon barksdale is in this show right now but don't know what he and the other thug are adding to the storyline.

I request more shots of Amy Smart in underwear

I feel like turning the Mexico saunter into a two (maybe three) episode diversion was because they weren't sure what to do with the Crowes and Boyd. I like watching Raylan go get the kid (I'm one who thinks this show has the characters to handle amusing stand-alone stories) but things really need to have a focus. The Art thing feels like it was sidelined too quickly. Less said about Ava the better.

I can understand why people are not feeling this season as much, but it's still diverting enough and easy to watch. I don't mind Rappaport. The guy who plays his brother is awful though. Is he supposed to be Larry the Cable Guy?

You know, I am so far behind this season - and this thread - but we're up to maybe episode 3 and the misogyny and violence toward women is becoming tough to watch. Either women are calculating shrews/harpies or they're being smothered, threatened with sex or getting guns waved in their faces. Or both/all three. Pretty ugly.

Oh, and these few eps in Rappaport is terrible. Like, truly bad. Always nice to see ubiquitous character actor Xander Berkeley.

I don't think that description of the female characters fits w/ Ava, Wendy Crowe, Allison, or Judith (who turns up later) really at all. And certainly not Marshal Rachel, in those rare episodes when she gets screentime.

Well, I'm not talking about the show up to this season, which feature plenty of strong women (including Rachel and Ava). But so far in this season Eva is just popping up bitter and angry in prison to yell at Boyd, Rachel barely gets screen time, the Russian (?) near-widow is both a gold digger conniver and also got yanked out of the cop car by her hair and had a gun shoved at her while the cop more or less threatened rape. This past ep (again, maybe 3) features the prostitute candy hauled in stuffed in a box, and that g-friend of Xander both strangled and smothered to the point of unconsciousness.

Have I met Wendy Crowe yet? Doesn't ring a bell. Or Allison - is that Amy Smart? Because she's just being dangled out right now as another woman unable to resist Raylan's charms.

It's almost as if there are episodes you haven't watched yet.

idk, it seemed like her character has free agency, to me

Wendy Crowe is the redhead, played by Alicia Witt

I get the objections. the nastiness (of thst sort) subsides for the most part after what you've already seen iirc xxp

Allison is definitely the most level-headed woman in Justified history as of this week's ep